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Old September 9th, 2004, 11:38 AM
Daniel Hoffmeister
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Default weird pro-carb scare ad

While watching the news early this morning, I caught this weird 'public
service announcement'.

Woman driving in a car, ominous voice over starts out "In the headlong
rush to lose weight..." and goes on to tell us of the health risks of
cutting out "essential carbohydrates": high blood pressure, heart disease,
and (pause for effect...) cancer.

I caught the Web site, it's the Partnership for Essential Nutrition:
http://www.essentialnutrition.org/
I remember seeing something about this outfit earlier in the summer.
There is some big money behind it and it was founded by Shape Up America.

As usual, it creates a strawman diet in which people are "eating unlimited
amounts of meat and fat".

From http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php

"The United States is in the midst of a skyrocketing obesity epidemic.
Today, more than 60 percent of American adults are overweight or obese,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and
many are investing in diet books, such as those promising rapid weight
loss in a matter of weeks by greatly restricting the intake of
carbohydrates while eating unlimited amounts of meat and fat."

But, wait! That's not all! They can have it both ways, because "... the
prime reason that low-carbohydrate diets work at all is that people on
these plans consume fewer calories than the body needs, which is the same
principle used by every other diet." All this while eating those
unlimited amounts of meat and fat. Pretty good trick!

There's a lot of "according to scientists" and "according to doctors and
nutritionists" and "numerous studies have shown" (all unspecified) strewn
throughout, something that always makes me suspicious.

One thing they do have right, though -- their survey showed that the
average American is woefully uninformed about what carbohydrates are and
which foods contain them.

On a side note, in this context I find it interesting that my maintenance
level will probably be around 90-100g of carbs a day (a mere 25% reduction
in the recommended 130g per day).

Dan
325/199/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

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Old September 9th, 2004, 01:26 PM
Roger Zoul
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Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a year
or more.

Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.


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Old September 9th, 2004, 01:26 PM
Roger Zoul
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Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a year
or more.

Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.


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Old September 9th, 2004, 01:43 PM
ClabberHead 5.0
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"Roger Zoul" wrote

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a
year
or more.



Here's one right here!!!
--
ClabberHead 5.0 (aka Iron Chef Atkins)
248.5/189.5/185.0 Livin' La Vida Low-Carb since 5/1/03
Al-Team #"e" to 27 decimal places (2.71828182845904523536028747...)
MSTie # 93058
"Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them
are stupider than that!" - George Carlin


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Old September 9th, 2004, 03:48 PM
Jim Bard
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from

http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with

less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a

weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a

year
or more.

Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.



I've only been low-carbing since April, and I've only lost 26 pounds so far.

I'll get back with ya next April


  #6  
Old September 9th, 2004, 03:48 PM
Jim Bard
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from

http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with

less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a

weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a

year
or more.

Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.



I've only been low-carbing since April, and I've only lost 26 pounds so far.

I'll get back with ya next April


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Old September 9th, 2004, 06:26 PM
Dropped 21
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from

http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with

less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a

weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a

year
or more.


I lost 30lbs on Atkins and kept it off for 3 years, then gained weight
during my 2 pregnancies. i've already lost 22lbs of it and have only been
back on LC since July!


Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.




  #8  
Old September 9th, 2004, 06:26 PM
Dropped 21
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from

http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with

less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a

weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a

year
or more.


I lost 30lbs on Atkins and kept it off for 3 years, then gained weight
during my 2 pregnancies. i've already lost 22lbs of it and have only been
back on LC since July!


Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.




  #9  
Old September 9th, 2004, 07:22 PM
BJ in Texas
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"Daniel Hoffmeister" wrote in
message ...
While watching the news early this morning, I caught this
weird 'public
service announcement'.

Woman driving in a car, ominous voice over starts out "In the
headlong
rush to lose weight..." and goes on to tell us of the health
risks of
cutting out "essential carbohydrates": high blood pressure,
heart disease,
and (pause for effect...) cancer.

I caught the Web site, it's the Partnership for Essential
Nutrition:
http://www.essentialnutrition.org/
I remember seeing something about this outfit earlier in the
summer.
There is some big money behind it and it was founded by Shape
Up America.

As usual, it creates a strawman diet in which people are
"eating unlimited
amounts of meat and fat".


Typical drivel from those that don't take time to research that
which they
talk about. Makes everything they say suspect.

From http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php

"The United States is in the midst of a skyrocketing obesity
epidemic.
Today, more than 60 percent of American adults are overweight
or obese,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC), and
many are investing in diet books, such as those promising
rapid weight
loss in a matter of weeks by greatly restricting the intake of
carbohydrates while eating unlimited amounts of meat and fat."


See above comment....

But, wait! That's not all! They can have it both ways,
because "... the
prime reason that low-carbohydrate diets work at all is that
people on
these plans consume fewer calories than the body needs, which
is the same
principle used by every other diet." All this while eating
those
unlimited amounts of meat and fat. Pretty good trick!


Flawed research and knowledge....

There's a lot of "according to scientists" and "according to
doctors and
nutritionists" and "numerous studies have shown" (all
unspecified) strewn
throughout, something that always makes me suspicious.


The fits right in with "as everyone knows", "it's common
knowledge",
"it's obvious". Through out some generalities that can not be
pinned
down to make a point when you have no real info.

One thing they do have right, though -- their survey showed
that the
average American is woefully uninformed about what
carbohydrates are and
which foods contain them.


True...

On a side note, in this context I find it interesting that my
maintenance
level will probably be around 90-100g of carbs a day (a mere
25% reduction
in the recommended 130g per day).


I'm just slightly lower to maintain by BG Levels with Type 2
Diabetes.
They need to get educated to the idea that "Low Carb" does not
mean "No Carb".

BJ
232/182/182 reached goal 18months ago
Ha1c 5.0 for the last 2 years



  #10  
Old September 9th, 2004, 07:22 PM
BJ in Texas
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"Daniel Hoffmeister" wrote in
message ...
While watching the news early this morning, I caught this
weird 'public
service announcement'.

Woman driving in a car, ominous voice over starts out "In the
headlong
rush to lose weight..." and goes on to tell us of the health
risks of
cutting out "essential carbohydrates": high blood pressure,
heart disease,
and (pause for effect...) cancer.

I caught the Web site, it's the Partnership for Essential
Nutrition:
http://www.essentialnutrition.org/
I remember seeing something about this outfit earlier in the
summer.
There is some big money behind it and it was founded by Shape
Up America.

As usual, it creates a strawman diet in which people are
"eating unlimited
amounts of meat and fat".


Typical drivel from those that don't take time to research that
which they
talk about. Makes everything they say suspect.

From http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php

"The United States is in the midst of a skyrocketing obesity
epidemic.
Today, more than 60 percent of American adults are overweight
or obese,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC), and
many are investing in diet books, such as those promising
rapid weight
loss in a matter of weeks by greatly restricting the intake of
carbohydrates while eating unlimited amounts of meat and fat."


See above comment....

But, wait! That's not all! They can have it both ways,
because "... the
prime reason that low-carbohydrate diets work at all is that
people on
these plans consume fewer calories than the body needs, which
is the same
principle used by every other diet." All this while eating
those
unlimited amounts of meat and fat. Pretty good trick!


Flawed research and knowledge....

There's a lot of "according to scientists" and "according to
doctors and
nutritionists" and "numerous studies have shown" (all
unspecified) strewn
throughout, something that always makes me suspicious.


The fits right in with "as everyone knows", "it's common
knowledge",
"it's obvious". Through out some generalities that can not be
pinned
down to make a point when you have no real info.

One thing they do have right, though -- their survey showed
that the
average American is woefully uninformed about what
carbohydrates are and
which foods contain them.


True...

On a side note, in this context I find it interesting that my
maintenance
level will probably be around 90-100g of carbs a day (a mere
25% reduction
in the recommended 130g per day).


I'm just slightly lower to maintain by BG Levels with Type 2
Diabetes.
They need to get educated to the idea that "Low Carb" does not
mean "No Carb".

BJ
232/182/182 reached goal 18months ago
Ha1c 5.0 for the last 2 years



 




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