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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:04:15 -0500, MM wrote:
Yes, the South Beach and Atkins diets are not based on calories or portion sizes. Yes and they also enjoy astronomical failure rates. They are scams when considering eating for a lifetime. -- http://tinyurl.com/5gt7 |
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Answers are simple. Even to a simpleton, eh?
Paraphrasing Samuel Johnson's (no relation) famous quote: Using ad hominem attacks is the last refuge of a scoundrel. I guess it makes some feel stronger and superior to make ad hominem attacks. What they fail to realize is that those attacks reflect on the themselves because most realize it and do not need someone else pointing it out. A simple answer or ignoring it is best. I have no doubt the readers of this group can come to their own conclusions about your above comment. |
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On Fri, 1 May 2009 00:25:54 -0400, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
The problem with the diet industry is that it tends to appeal to people's sense of healthy eating and moralizing sermons about obesity's social ills rather than focus on what people actually enjoy eating. Part of the reason that people gorge on low fat foods is that in order to reduce fat, flavor is sacrified. So, they keep chasing down a flavor experience that will never come. The industry follow on the heels of a massive campaign, one that has been going on for decades, that pushes the concepts of fullness, satiation and ridiculous portion sizes. This has been confused with "healthy", eat what is on your plate, don't waste, etc etc, anyone over the age of 40 knows the mantra explicitly. This is no defence of the industry, rather a condemnation. Where else can you get the catastrophic, pandemic rates of illness from overconsumption (failed diets born to failure as they are composed) and claim "success"? -- http://tinyurl.com/5gt7 |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:21:40 -0700, Cheri wrote:
"MU" wrote in message ... Goodbye, little child. *plonk* The irony. You're publicly plonking someone, and calling them a little child? One thing I can say for you, you never change. LOL Cheri Everyone changes. What hasn't changed is my lack of time and patience for Usenet kiddies. And my support of the 2PD, Ms. Cheri, nice to hear from you. -- http://tinyurl.com/5gt7 |
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On 2009-05-01, MU wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:21:40 -0700, Cheri wrote: "MU" wrote in message ... Goodbye, little child. *plonk* The irony. You're publicly plonking someone, and calling them a little child? One thing I can say for you, you never change. LOL Cheri Everyone changes. What hasn't changed is my lack of time and patience for Usenet kiddies. But, exactly as predicted, you followed up to me today. So your *plonk* was only a meaningless overture, and your claim that you lack time is laughable. As for patience, the need for that is obviated by your appetite. |
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Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
snip Ultimately, the best diet for each individual strikes a balance between what they like to eat and what their bodies need. It's just that simple. It is even simpler. The best diet comprises of ones favorite foods so that there is more joy in eating and ever increasing hunger, which indicates ever increasing health. The healthiest people in the world are the hungriest people in the world. For healthier (hungrier) people, the food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving. The food scale helps to keep those of us with high-performance bodies (no VAT) from overeating (eating more than 32 ounces) just as the speedometer helps to keep those of us with high-performance cars from speeding: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Love in the truth, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Human Geneticist, Molecular Biologist, and Board-certified Cardiologist http://EmoryCardiology.com |
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"MU" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:52:57 -0500, MM wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:45:48 -0500, MU wrote (in article ): On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:32:38 -0500, MM wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:15:15 -0500, MU wrote (in article ): Answers are simple. No one gains weight, everyone reaches optimal weight by eating 2PD or less. Considering that I have extensive experience with training and athletes in traning, and common folk, I speak from those realities. Hmmm ..... so will two identical twins one eating 2PD of peanut butter and the other eating 2PD of celery result in the same weight of the two even though there is a big difference of calories consumed ..... they both have the same activity level so the only variable is the what they eat .... would seem that the one eating two pounds of peanut butter which has more calories than the two pounds of celery would end up with a much higher weight. Perhaps you could inform us of just what is your "extensive experience" ? Asked and answered the first paragraph, Mr. Disingenuous. As to "extensive experience", Google is your multiple friend. Still waiting to hear if the calories of the two pounds of food eaten if one follows Chung's 2PD make any difference in a person's final weight. Asked and answered. My above extreme example was a way to try and get that answered. You got your answer. Will see if the question is answered if calories make any difference in a person's final weight if eats two pounds of food a day. Answers are simple. Even to a simpleton, eh? So you're saying twins can eat 2 lbs a day and still weigh the same thing even if one eats peanut butter and the other twin eats celery? That calories don't count as long as they both eat 2 lbs a day? |
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On Fri, 01 May 2009 16:28:35 -0400, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote: snip Ultimately, the best diet for each individual strikes a balance between what they like to eat and what their bodies need. It's just that simple. It is even simpler. The best diet comprises of ones favorite foods so that there is more joy in eating and ever increasing hunger, which indicates ever increasing health. A notion that is not recognized widely. The healthiest people in the world are the hungriest people in the world. Undeniably. For healthier (hungrier) people, the food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving. The food scale helps to keep those of us with high-performance bodies (no VAT) from overeating (eating more than 32 ounces) just as the speedometer helps to keep those of us with high-performance cars from speeding: Cruise control. http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Love in the truth, Andrew -- http://tinyurl.com/5gt7 |
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MU wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote: snip Ultimately, the best diet for each individual strikes a balance between what they like to eat and what their bodies need. It's just that simple. It is even simpler. The best diet comprises of ones favorite foods so that there is more joy in eating and ever increasing hunger, which indicates ever increasing health. A notion that is not recognized widely. This is because the delusion that "hunger is starvation" has blinded widely. The healthiest people in the world are the hungriest people in the world. Undeniably. Absolutely true. For healthier (hungrier) people, the food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving. The food scale helps to keep those of us with high-performance bodies (no VAT) from overeating (eating more than 32 ounces) just as the speedometer helps to keep those of us with high-performance cars from speeding: Cruise control. The setting of the cruise control at the correct speed is not possible without a speedometer. What is required to receive a cure for the delusion that "hunger is starvation" is saying "wonderfully hungry" whenever greeted by others and working to convince others that this is indeed true: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com Love in the truth, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist http://EmoryCardiology |
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On Sat, 02 May 2009 02:53:35 -0400, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
For healthier (hungrier) people, the food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving. The food scale helps to keep those of us with high-performance bodies (no VAT) from overeating (eating more than 32 ounces) just as the speedometer helps to keep those of us with high-performance cars from speeding: Cruise control. The setting of the cruise control at the correct speed is not possible without a speedometer. What is required to receive a cure for the delusion that "hunger is starvation" is saying "wonderfully hungry" whenever greeted by others and working to convince others that this is indeed true: Here is the testimony of the former head of the FDA, an obviously intelligent, well informed man who can avail himself of any and all science. He could not understand why he was unable to maintain a constant, healthy weight. http://tinyurl.com/cd5rty In a more recent interview, Bill Mahrer had Kressler on for 15 minutes and the gist of that discussion was the constant barrage by the food and diet industries (Kessler tells that all mainstream diets are doomed to fail) the food industry to produce overconsumption, the diet to feed off of it. Both industries accomplish the same thing...overconsumption. The problem is greater than our ability to solve. Which circles us back to the 2PD. It solves the overconsumption problem and why is that? Because the 2PD is borne from a place which has the power to solve complex, human problems. I, like Kessler, struggled for years with trying to understand why I continually gained small amounts of weight. I ate no breakfast, little lunch and had large dinners. I was very active, working 70-80 hours per week on my strength training gym floors, lifting, racking, tons of iron plates and chrome Olympic bars daily. Yet, I gained weight. After we met, I weighed for the first time my daily food intake. Goshogolly, it was 2.5+ pounds on the average. I dropped to just under 2 pounds per day, never once looking at what I ate, weight dropped off at the rate of 1/2 to 1 pound per week. Simple. -- http://tinyurl.com/5gt7 |
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