Deep thoughts

Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as icky as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

I was recently struck that there are extraordinarily similar
circumstances,traits, or patterns of behavior for issues with clutter,
cleaning, overeating, and substance abuse. It was very humbling and
sobering, Lee
Julie wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

That's amazingly true! I used to be a smoker (drum roll: now smoke free
for over 5 years - 20 lbs later) and during so many earlier quits after a
few weeks smoke free thought that I could be a "social smoker" and ended up
back to a pack a day. How can intelligent (well, questionable in my case)
adults trick themselves so completely? You're right, Lee, it's definitely a
personality trait that I've only just realized. It's all lies - you can
teach an old dog new tricks!
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I was recently struck that there are extraordinarily similar
circumstances,traits, or patterns of behavior for issues with clutter,
cleaning, overeating, and substance abuse. It was very humbling and
sobering, Lee
Julie wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would
never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little
weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

I used to be a smoker as well. I've been smoke free now for 14 years. Holy
smokes I can't believe it's been that long. I gained about 50ish pounds
when I quit smoking. Did you gain when you quit Julie?

"Julie" wrote in message
news:9SbCb.665843$6C4.443459@pd7tw1no...
That's amazingly true! I used to be a smoker (drum roll: now smoke free
for over 5 years - 20 lbs later) and during so many earlier quits after a
few weeks smoke free thought that I could be a "social smoker" and ended
up
back to a pack a day. How can intelligent (well, questionable in my case)
adults trick themselves so completely? You're right, Lee, it's definitely
a
personality trait that I've only just realized. It's all lies - you can
teach an old dog new tricks!
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I was recently struck that there are extraordinarily similar
circumstances,traits, or patterns of behavior for issues with clutter,
cleaning, overeating, and substance abuse. It was very humbling and
sobering, Lee
Julie wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would
never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as
icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts
have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little
weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

Only about a thousand times

"Julie" wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

Way to go, Brenda, that's a long time! Yes, I put on about 20 lbs - had to
put something in my mouth for the first few weeks and food was definitely
healthier than a cigarette.
Julie

"Brenda Hammond" wrote in message
...
I used to be a smoker as well. I've been smoke free now for 14 years.
Holy
smokes I can't believe it's been that long. I gained about 50ish pounds
when I quit smoking. Did you gain when you quit Julie?

"Julie" wrote in message
news:9SbCb.665843$6C4.443459@pd7tw1no...
That's amazingly true! I used to be a smoker (drum roll: now smoke
free
for over 5 years - 20 lbs later) and during so many earlier quits after
a
few weeks smoke free thought that I could be a "social smoker" and ended
up
back to a pack a day. How can intelligent (well, questionable in my
case)
adults trick themselves so completely? You're right, Lee, it's
definitely
a
personality trait that I've only just realized. It's all lies - you can
teach an old dog new tricks!
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I was recently struck that there are extraordinarily similar
circumstances,traits, or patterns of behavior for issues with clutter,
cleaning, overeating, and substance abuse. It was very humbling and
sobering, Lee
Julie wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would
never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as
icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts
have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little
weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

I thought so at the time too. Although I didn't have a really difficult
time quitting, not like some others I know. I'm just glad that I've been
able to avoid cigarettes for 14 years now. They do sometimes smell good
still. Now to get rid of the lbs I gained after quitting!!

"Julie" wrote in message
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Way to go, Brenda, that's a long time! Yes, I put on about 20 lbs - had
to
put something in my mouth for the first few weeks and food was definitely
healthier than a cigarette.
Julie

"Brenda Hammond" wrote in message
...
I used to be a smoker as well. I've been smoke free now for 14 years.
Holy
smokes I can't believe it's been that long. I gained about 50ish pounds
when I quit smoking. Did you gain when you quit Julie?

"Julie" wrote in message
news:9SbCb.665843$6C4.443459@pd7tw1no...
That's amazingly true! I used to be a smoker (drum roll: now smoke
free
for over 5 years - 20 lbs later) and during so many earlier quits
after
a
few weeks smoke free thought that I could be a "social smoker" and
ended
up
back to a pack a day. How can intelligent (well, questionable in my
case)
adults trick themselves so completely? You're right, Lee, it's
definitely
a
personality trait that I've only just realized. It's all lies - you
can
teach an old dog new tricks!
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I was recently struck that there are extraordinarily similar
circumstances,traits, or patterns of behavior for issues with
clutter,
cleaning, overeating, and substance abuse. It was very humbling and
sobering, Lee
Julie wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you
would
never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just
as
icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts
have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a
little
weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

I am impressed
Brenda Hammond wrote in message
...
I used to be a smoker as well. I've been smoke free now for 14 years.
Holy
smokes I can't believe it's been that long. I gained about 50ish pounds
when I quit smoking. Did you gain when you quit Julie?

"Julie" wrote in message
news:9SbCb.665843$6C4.443459@pd7tw1no...
That's amazingly true! I used to be a smoker (drum roll: now smoke
free
for over 5 years - 20 lbs later) and during so many earlier quits after
a
few weeks smoke free thought that I could be a "social smoker" and ended
up
back to a pack a day. How can intelligent (well, questionable in my
case)
adults trick themselves so completely? You're right, Lee, it's
definitely
a
personality trait that I've only just realized. It's all lies - you can
teach an old dog new tricks!
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I was recently struck that there are extraordinarily similar
circumstances,traits, or patterns of behavior for issues with clutter,
cleaning, overeating, and substance abuse. It was very humbling and
sobering, Lee
Julie wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would
never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as
icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts
have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little
weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

I haven't dealt with smoking as when I assessed it losing weight seemed far
easier to deal with for me. I also tend for trying to be perfect and I knew
that trying to lose weight and quit smoking would be too much. I also for
the first time in my life had a high blood pressure incident that scared the
hell out of me so I knew the weight had to go. The real truth is that all
"additive" and "self destructive" behaviors have at their root,
insecurities, a need to cope with life and the inability to do it
constructively. Once I figured that out things have gone much better, as in
the example of house cleaning, DH and I are the people who suffer if my
house is not picked up and yet if it isn't picked up it has the comfort
factor of saying I can't host this or that I would have to clean too much,
poof total security from dealing with socializing, same thing with eating
and smoking for me. I can't quit smoking I would gain too much, HELLO, I
needed to lose 120 pounds while I was saying this, and eating, the only area
I had ever seriously worked on, at least nobody can tell me what to eat...
and on... and on...

Bottom line that we all eat wrong, smoke or use for different experiential
reasons but the commonality is that we all lack the coping mechanisms to
deal effectively with our life situations, Lee, who is getting too deep even
for her comfort level//...
Julie wrote in message
news:9SbCb.665843$6C4.443459@pd7tw1no...
That's amazingly true! I used to be a smoker (drum roll: now smoke free
for over 5 years - 20 lbs later) and during so many earlier quits after a
few weeks smoke free thought that I could be a "social smoker" and ended
up
back to a pack a day. How can intelligent (well, questionable in my case)
adults trick themselves so completely? You're right, Lee, it's definitely
a
personality trait that I've only just realized. It's all lies - you can
teach an old dog new tricks!
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I was recently struck that there are extraordinarily similar
circumstances,traits, or patterns of behavior for issues with clutter,
cleaning, overeating, and substance abuse. It was very humbling and
sobering, Lee
Julie wrote in message
news:5C9Cb.668567$pl3.61297@pd7tw3no...
Has anyone ever cleaned their bathroom and then swore that you would
never
let it get that messy again only to find it creeps up to be just as
icky
as
before a couple of weeks later? That's how my weight loss efforts
have
been! It's funny how I get lulled into thinking that once a little
weight
comes off, I can eat anything (damned butter tarts!). Anyone else
experience this phenomenon?
Julie

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:54:29 GMT, "Julie"
wrote:

That's amazingly true! I used to be a smoker (drum roll: now smoke free
for over 5 years - 20 lbs later) and during so many earlier quits after a
few weeks smoke free thought that I could be a "social smoker" and ended up
back to a pack a day. How can intelligent (well, questionable in my case)
adults trick themselves so completely? You're right, Lee, it's definitely a
personality trait that I've only just realized. It's all lies - you can
teach an old dog new tricks!

I also stopped smoking some years ago. Up until about 5 years ago I
still craved ciggies about every other day. I went to a wedding and
had a couple of cigarettes, and was violently ill outside some minutes
later. I haven't really wanted a ciggy since.
I gained loads of weight after stopping, and it wasn't helped by
getting a car. But stupidly the doctor said that putting on a few
pounds was better than smoking - it may be but that is no reason for a
doctor to condone weight gain.
Of the two (quitting smoking/losing weight) losing weight is by far
the hardest. What I find amazing is how the mind performs tricks on
you to get you to continue smoking/eating/etc.

Take today. I had to go to the doctor and didn't have much time so I
had a slimfast for breakfast, then to work. We are moving offices so
no time for lunch either. I gets home and puts dinner on, it'll be
ready in an hour. But instead of waiting I eat 1 pear, two slices of
bread with cottage cheese, a couple of chocolate muffins.
Now if I'd waited an extra 30 minutes I'd have had a good low calorie
day. As it is I'll have to do 30 minutes of cardio to get back on
target. And since it's far too late to start cardio I'm none too
pleased with myself.

Ray
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rmnsuk
overall - 273/210/182