What make one feel hungry?

Carbs are cheap, and we live in an economically driven world.. That's
why 90% of supermarkets are typically carbohydate dense foods --
they're typically non-perishable, and mostly based on flour. Meats go
bad, and most people have been avoiding fats for the last 30 years.

D.

You know, you speak the obvious and yet people here still dont get it.
Calories count, end of story. Follow JC's advise in the sig and all
will work.

Obsidian

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:53:32 GMT, Luna
wrote:

What do you mean by "vulnerable?" Do you mean that our bodies are
vulnerable to becoming overweight if we eat too many carbohydrates? Well,
it's pretty simple. Carbohydrates are quick energy, we evolved craving
sugar because it gave us energy. We also evolved craving fat, because it
is calorie dense, packed with more energy for the volume than other foods.
The problem comes from the fact that most of us don't _need_ as much energy
as our ancient ancestors, because of our more sedentary lifestyles, but our
tastebuds haven't caught up with the technological advances that enable us
to live our easier lives.

In article ,
(Ben Park) wrote:

This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.

Trina a.k.a milady milady@connectionsdothereykandhereca wrote in message
. ..
Too many carbs and not enough fat in your diet?

On 17 Nov 2003 16:43:24 -0800, (Ben Park) wrote:

What make one feel hungry? Is it low glucose alone? Are somethings
else also involved?

Trina
a.k.a milady

The world is not as carb filled as we have made it. Nature did not make
twinkies, doughnuts, processed flour, processed cereals, etc.It did not even
make french fries or batter dipped fish. Man made them.

On 21 Nov 2003 19:21:18 GMT, SouthrnElf wrote:

The world is not as carb filled as we have made it. Nature did not make
twinkies, doughnuts, processed flour, processed cereals, etc.It did not even
make french fries or batter dipped fish. Man made them.

Dad took his daughter to the barber with him while he was getting his hair
cut. When it was dad's turn, his daughter decided to stand next to the
chair so she could get a better look. As she was standing there watching
and eating her hostess cake, the barber began talking to her and said, "you
know sweetheart, you're going to get hair on your twinkie". She replied,
"yea, I know, I'm going to get tits too".


--
Randy M
234/203/175
Atkins since 7/14/03

In article , "Jean B."
wrote:

Ben Park wrote:

This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.


Off the top of my head, I'd say think about the long time that
humans existed before they started to engage in agriculture. I'd
think that most of the calories must have come from game. Sure,
there would have been gathering too, but that might not have
accounted for that much of the diet. I should look back in some
of my arch/anth books.

Gathering accounted for more of the diet than hunting did.

South-East Asian peoples ate a lot of grain (wild rice) even before the
advent of agriculture.

A lot of gathered roots and vegetables were high-carb too, even before
humans started cross-breeding for palatability.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:22:20 +1300, Miche
wrote:

Gathering accounted for more of the diet than hunting did.

Sources, please?

South-East Asian peoples ate a lot of grain (wild rice) even before the
advent of agriculture.

Sources, please?

A lot of gathered roots and vegetables were high-carb too, even before
humans started cross-breeding for palatability.

Sources, please?

The carbohydrates we are vulnerable to are not those found in nature, they
are those extracted from nature by human processing.

Ben Park wrote:
| This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
| carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
| carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
| to make much sense.
|

Ben Park wrote:

This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate.

The industrialized human world that has only existed for a couple
of centuries has so much food from carbs.

That was explicitly NOT true until very recently. Refined flour
and refined sugar has only been available for about 200 years.
Before that if you wanted bread you started with kernels of grain.

And grain itself has only been available about 20,000 years.

Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to carbohydrate?

Because until 20,000 years ago there were so few sources of
concentrated carbs in existance it was beneficial. Fruit only
came ripe one tree at a time and the fruit were small. The only
sugar anywhere came with buzzing bees. If you wanted a starchy
root you dug for it and chewed for minutes.

The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.

If you assume white flour has been available for five million
years, sure. But it hasn't.

On an time scale that matches evolution, they make perfect sense.

In article ,
Pat Paris wrote:

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:22:20 +1300, Miche
wrote:

Gathering accounted for more of the diet than hunting did.

Sources, please?

South-East Asian peoples ate a lot of grain (wild rice) even before the
advent of agriculture.

Sources, please?

A lot of gathered roots and vegetables were high-carb too, even before
humans started cross-breeding for palatability.

Sources, please?

My husband the Anthropologist, in all cases.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:22:49 +1300, Miche
wrote:

In article ,
Pat Paris wrote:

Sources, please?
Sources, please?
Sources, please?

My husband the Anthropologist, in all cases.

Wow, upper case anthropologist at that. I'm impressed.