Input please, support

I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question the
Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to get
some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has been
mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few others..
can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric acid
on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was in
the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty comments
please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family doctor
told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All last
week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro worse,
the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well anyway, I
have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain or
anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids (sp)
are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more testing,
specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme though.. In
the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood tests
were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came back
fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER immediately.
Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right now.

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks. The
weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

Gosh, Sunshyne. I'm really sorry to hear about all that you're going
through. I don't have any advice for you, but I am keeping you in my
prayers.

Definitely get your bowel bleeding checked out thoroughly, though. DH
started with that a few years ago, and I MADE him go to the doctor. Turned
out to be IBS/colitis. But I also had a friend with the same symptoms who
died from colo-rectal cancer. You never can tell.

--
Linda
296/203/160
LC since Oct. 13, 2003
http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html


"Sunshyne" wrote in message
...
I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question
the
Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to
get
some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has
been
mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few
others..
can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric
acid
on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was
in
the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty
comments
please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family
doctor
told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All
last
week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro
worse,
the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well
anyway, I
have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain
or
anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids
(sp)
are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more
testing,
specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme
though.. In
the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood
tests
were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came
back
fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER
immediately.
Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right
now.

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.
The
weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

I am no doctor but something similar came up in another LC board I am on
with gout in particular. His doc told him he is not drinking enough water to
support this way of eating. Even Dr. A. says it is VERY important to drink
at least 64 oz of water per day. He upped his water to 3 liters (well over
64 oz) and the gout has not come back since. He also only eats red meat 1-2X
per week and chooses white meats over the red. Water is also going to help
your bowel movements. I had a problem with constipation before I even
started Atkins, yet I hardly drank any water. Now I drink 100 oz per day and
have no problems at all while on Atkins. I also choose high fiber veggies
such as broccoli, cauliflower and spinach for my dinner.
I hope this helps a little.
Please get better soon and take care of yourself. Drink more water!

hugs,

Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com


"Sunshyne" wrote in message
...
I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question
the
Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to
get
some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has
been
mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few
others..
can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric
acid
on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was
in
the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty
comments
please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family
doctor
told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All
last
week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro
worse,
the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well
anyway, I
have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain
or
anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids
(sp)
are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more
testing,
specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme
though.. In
the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood
tests
were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came
back
fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER
immediately.
Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right
now.

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.
The
weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

From: "Lady o' the house"
Gosh, Sunshyne. I'm really sorry to hear about all that you're going
through. I don't have any advice for you, but I am keeping you in my
prayers.

Definitely get your bowel bleeding checked out thoroughly, though. DH
started with that a few years ago,

and I MADE him go to the doctor. Turned
out to be IBS/colitis. But I also had a friend with the same symptoms who
died from colo-rectal cancer. You never can tell.

I had to make myself go to the doctor. I mean what happened is freaky. Its a
subject that is hard to talk about also, with rectal. The colo-rectal cancer
is on my mind also. Thanks for the support Linda.

I am no doctor but something similar came up in another LC board I am on
with gout in particular. His doc told him he is not drinking enough water to
support this way of eating. Even Dr. A. says it is VERY important to drink
at least 64 oz of water per day. He upped his water to 3 liters (well over
64 oz) and the gout has not come back since. He also only eats red meat 1-2X
per week and chooses white meats over the red. Water is also going to help
your bowel movements. I had a problem with constipation before I even
started Atkins, yet I hardly drank any water. Now I drink 100 oz per day and
have no problems at all while on Atkins. I also choose high fiber veggies
such as broccoli, cauliflower and spinach for my dinner.
I hope this helps a little.
Please get better soon and take care of yourself. Drink more water!

hugs,

Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com



Tonya, that helped alot. Thank you.

"Sunshyne" wrote in message
...
I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question
the
Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to
get
some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has
been
mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few
others..
can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric
acid
on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was
in
the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty
comments
please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family
doctor
told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All
last
week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro
worse,
the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well
anyway, I
have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain
or
anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids
(sp)
are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more
testing,
specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme
though.. In
the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood
tests
were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came
back
fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER
immediately.
Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right
now.

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.
The
weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

Stop the VIOXX. It gave my mom stomach bleeding and a study published this
past week showed that it triples the likelihood of having a heart attack.

You have to love the way that they warn you of all the dire things the diet
will do--which it doesn't, and then prescribe you drugs that are most
definitely harmful.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"Sunshyne" wrote in message
...
I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question
the
Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to
get
some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has
been
mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few
others..
can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric
acid
on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was
in
the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty
comments
please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family
doctor
told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All
last
week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro
worse,
the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well
anyway, I
have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain
or
anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids
(sp)
are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more
testing,
specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme
though.. In
the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood
tests
were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came
back
fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER
immediately.
Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right
now.

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.
The
weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

From: "Tonya"
I am no doctor but something similar came up in another LC board I am on
with gout in particular. His doc told him he is not drinking enough water to
support this way of eating. Even Dr. A. says it is VERY important to drink

at least 64 oz of water per day. He upped his water to 3 liters

What other LC board are you on? I am interested. It is very hard to post and
ask questions. It is hard to find support and info for both illness, pain,
dieting.

Thats why I stopped posting for awhile.

(Sunshyne) writes:

With not feeling well anyway, I have not been drinking enough though, I admit
that. I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to
question the Atkins diet now.

That's a major no-no with low-carbing. You MUST drink water/liquids and you
MUST eat fibrous veggies like broccoli, cabbage, green beans, etc.
Both will prevent constipation, and hydration will help prevent gout.
However, I also have FM and eat low-carb, and will tell you that I had those
kinds of pains you describe well before I ever started a diet plan. So I doubt
seriously that your eating is causing the pain unless the pain is from
constipation. The Vioxx certainly is suspect as well.
Unless your doctor is low-carb friendly, he'll just tell you that you need to
eat sugar and flour anyway. (G) So many people just don't understand what
low-carbing is all about, and it's a shame.
Gout manifests with extreme pain, swelling, and redness, usually in only one
joint, and usually in the extremities. (The pain is excruciating...not just
"bad". I've had it in my big toe, pre-low-carbing. Trust me - it's horrible!)
The symptoms should spontaneously disappear in about two weeks. When/if it
comes back, it can return in the same places or different ones. Mine never did
reoccur.
Overindulgence of alcohol and red meats IS a cause of gout, but mainly in the
presence of dehydration. Trauma to the joints is another cause. You already
have fibro, so that may be the cause. Dehydration is a major cause of gout. You
GOTTA keep hydrated, girl! Some medications can cause gout too- blood pressure
meds, diruetics, even aspirin.
Keep up the good fight; I know how discouraging it can be sometimes. And
please, go drink something! LOL!








Connie
************************************************** ***
My mind is like a steel...um, whatchamacallit.

In article ,
says...
I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

I'm sorry to hear you are having so much (SCARY) trouble!

{{{{{{{{{ SUNSHYNE}}}}}}}}}}

Vioxx is VERY strong stuff and can, indeed, cause stomach problems.

--
Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

On 28 Aug 2004 14:44:49 GMT, (Sunshyne) wrote:

I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question the
Atkins diet now.

I have no answers, Sunshyne, just a great big hug!

Feel better,
Carol