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Ideas welcome. *Thanks
Drop all the processed foods. Eat simply prepared fresh/whole fruits, veggies, beans and limited grains, nuts, meat, dairy, etc. Supplemental fiber (extra carbs), OK. |
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wrote in message ... On 17 nov, 00:01, "Info" wrote: wrote in message ... On 16 nov, 02:34, "Info" wrote: If this is a duplicate, please accept my apologies. I weigh 184 and am 5'7". I need to lose twenty pounds and I cannot exercise because I'm in a wheelchair. What is your daily calorie intake and what do you eat to keep your taste buds interested when you've cut back on food or calories? I eat All Bran with skim milk in the AM and at least two apples a day. I drink four or five glasses of water a day, some decaf tea and two Metamucil cocktails. I also take several B-Complex vitamins. I ran into some 90 calorie "garden burgers" and 230 frozen dinners. I hardly ever use salt. Sometime I have half a sub from Subway. A dietician said that is OK. I stopped chocolate and ice cream months ago. Fat free pudding and fruit are my dessert, if I have any. Do you eat soy burgers or other soy products? I can make them taste good, if I add a little low-cal salsa or other spicy stuff. Ideas welcome. Thanks I would advise you to learn to cook. And stop polluting your body with industrial food and stuff made in a laboratory. Are your B-Complex vitamins made from coal? If you visited the place where they produce and saw the making from A to Z, I'm sure you would say "no thank you!" if offered to try the pill. Extremely disturbing. -------------- I cooked for myself every day for 30 years and in restaurants for 5 years . I can't any more because I can't hold a pan any longer or stand up without support. I have seizures and I use a machine at night so I don't stop breathing. http://www.charcot-marie-tooth.org/a...t/overview.php http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/ http://www.sleepapnea.org/- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - I apologize. For Vitamin B, I've been advised to get it from *natural* yeast that you can mix with low-fat, no sugar added, yogurt. Do you have organisations in your area that can help you with cooking? ------ Thank you, Mike. It's almost not necessary but a delight to find someone on Usenet who will apologize for something. I'm a little embarrassed right now. Your response hit a nerve, last night, and I almost ripped you a big one. Again, thank you. My wife does all the cooking. It's healthy food and I keep the portions small. It's breakfast and lunch that I have to take care of. I was eating the yogurt you mentioned, but I fell off the wagon. I'll get bake on it, today. I keep the carbs high because two of the drugs I take cause constipation. I take a stool softener, but I need to get rid of what I eat easily and the softener doesn't work well enough. I can still walk with a walker, but using the stove and microwave are getting too dicey. Early next year the stove will have become impossible. We are moving the microwave to put it at waist-level so I can get to it while sitting down. I am contacting every organization that I can think of and am going to see rehab doctors and OT departments at several hospitals outside my HMO. |
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jay wrote:
Ideas welcome. Thanks Drop all the processed foods. Eat simply prepared fresh/whole fruits, veggies, beans and limited grains, nuts, meat, dairy, etc. Supplemental fiber (extra carbs), OK. Drop all carbs. Eat only meat. Any meat will do. Fatty meat preferably. Supplement with vitamin D. Stay in bed. Read a book. Start with Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. When your health returns, which will happen pretty quickly on this kind of diet, you won't need to be told to go out and play. You will simply do it as a result of returning to good health. |
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On 17 nov, 12:55, "Info" wrote:
wrote in message ... On 17 nov, 00:01, "Info" wrote: wrote in message .... On 16 nov, 02:34, "Info" wrote: If this is a duplicate, please accept my apologies. I weigh 184 and am 5'7". I need to lose twenty pounds and I cannot exercise because I'm in a wheelchair. What is your daily calorie intake and what do you eat to keep your taste buds interested when you've cut back on food or calories? I eat All Bran with skim milk in the AM and at least two apples a day.. I drink four or five glasses of water a day, some decaf tea and two Metamucil cocktails. I also take several B-Complex vitamins. I ran into some 90 calorie "garden burgers" and 230 frozen dinners. I hardly ever use salt. Sometime I have half a sub from Subway. A dietician said that is OK. I stopped chocolate and ice cream months ago. Fat free pudding and fruit are my dessert, if I have any. Do you eat soy burgers or other soy products? I can make them taste good, if I add a little low-cal salsa or other spicy stuff. Ideas welcome. Thanks I would advise you to learn to cook. And stop polluting your body with industrial food and stuff made in a laboratory. Are your B-Complex vitamins made from coal? If you visited the place where they produce and saw the making from A to Z, I'm sure you would say "no thank you!" if offered to try the pill. Extremely disturbing. -------------- I cooked for myself every day for 30 years and in restaurants for 5 years . I can't any more because I can't hold a pan any longer or stand up without support. I have seizures and I use a machine at night so I don't stop breathing. http://www.charcot-marie-tooth.org/a...t/overview.php http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/ http://www.sleepapnea.org/-Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - I apologize. For Vitamin B, I've been *advised to get it from *natural* yeast that you can mix with low-fat, no sugar added, yogurt. Do you have organisations in your area that can help you with cooking? ------ Thank you, Mike. *It's almost not necessary but a delight to find someone on Usenet who will apologize for something. *I'm a little embarrassed right now. *Your response hit a nerve, last night, and I almost ripped you a big one. Again, thank you. It's all good. One the best advice I can give you is that before trying to figure out what your menu should be that you build your menu around veggies. Eat as much veggie you can in a day and you won't have much have room left for anything left. I'm a steak person. I could have it for breakfast, no problem. I cooked a large piece of it last night, enough to feed two persons. If I had not had anything else to eat, I would have eaten all of it, and would have been hungry an hour later. What I did is to have a herbal tea and a huge soup of only veggies. After that, I did not have enough space for the whole steak, so I ate only the half of it, and kept the rest for the next day. When it comes to weight-management, nothing beats the veggies! |
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On 17 nov, 17:47, Martin Levac wrote:
wrote: On 17 nov, 12:55, "Info" wrote: wrote in message .... On 17 nov, 00:01, "Info" wrote: wrote in message .... On 16 nov, 02:34, "Info" wrote: If this is a duplicate, please accept my apologies. I weigh 184 and am 5'7". I need to lose twenty pounds and I cannot exercise because I'm in a wheelchair. What is your daily calorie intake and what do you eat to keep your taste buds interested when you've cut back on food or calories? I eat All Bran with skim milk in the AM and at least two apples a day. I drink four or five glasses of water a day, some decaf tea and two Metamucil cocktails. I also take several B-Complex vitamins. I ran into some 90 calorie "garden burgers" and 230 frozen dinners. I hardly ever use salt. Sometime I have half a sub from Subway. A dietician said that is OK. I stopped chocolate and ice cream months ago. Fat free pudding and fruit are my dessert, if I have any. Do you eat soy burgers or other soy products? I can make them taste good, if I add a little low-cal salsa or other spicy stuff. Ideas welcome. Thanks I would advise you to learn to cook. And stop polluting your body with industrial food and stuff made in a laboratory. Are your B-Complex vitamins made from coal? If you visited the place where they produce and saw the making from A to Z, I'm sure you would say "no thank you!" if offered to try the pill. Extremely disturbing. -------------- I cooked for myself every day for 30 years and in restaurants for 5 years . I can't any more because I can't hold a pan any longer or stand up without support. I have seizures and I use a machine at night so I don't stop breathing. http://www.charcot-marie-tooth.org/a...t/overview.php http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/ http://www.sleepapnea.org/-Masquerle texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - I apologize. For Vitamin B, I've been *advised to get it from *natural* yeast that you can mix with low-fat, no sugar added, yogurt. Do you have organisations in your area that can help you with cooking? ------ Thank you, Mike. *It's almost not necessary but a delight to find someone on Usenet who will apologize for something. *I'm a little embarrassed right now. *Your response hit a nerve, last night, and I almost ripped you a big one. Again, thank you. It's all good. One the best advice I can give you is that before trying to figure out what your menu should be that you build your menu around veggies. Eat as much veggie you can in a day and you won't have much have room left for anything left. I'm a steak person. I could have it for breakfast, no problem. I cooked a large piece of it last night, enough to feed two persons. If I had not had anything else to eat, I would have eaten all of it, and would have been hungry an hour later. What I did is to have a herbal tea and a huge soup of only veggies. After that, I did not have enough space for the whole steak, so I ate only the half of it, and kept the rest for the next day. When it comes to weight-management, nothing beats the veggies! The China study shows that those who ate the most fruits and vegetables were also the fattest. So it would seem that for weight management, at least if the purpose is to grow fatter, then eating veggies is the way to go. You'd have been better off eating the whole steak. Steak is meat and meat contains no carbohydrates. Carbohydrates drive insulin drives fat accumulation.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - "THE" China study? Never heard of it. If it was done by Chinese, then I would not rely to much on it. The statement you mane is a too broad, anyway. You're not telling me WICH fruits they eat. I eat mostly those that don't make my glands produce too much fat-storing hormones. As for steak, I buy the one containing no hormones or antibiotics. |
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On 17 nov, 17:47, Martin Levac wrote: wrote: On 17 nov, 12:55, "Info" wrote: wrote in message ... On 17 nov, 00:01, "Info" wrote: wrote in message ... On 16 nov, 02:34, "Info" wrote: If this is a duplicate, please accept my apologies. I weigh 184 and am 5'7". I need to lose twenty pounds and I cannot exercise because I'm in a wheelchair. What is your daily calorie intake and what do you eat to keep your taste buds interested when you've cut back on food or calories? I eat All Bran with skim milk in the AM and at least two apples a day. I drink four or five glasses of water a day, some decaf tea and two Metamucil cocktails. I also take several B-Complex vitamins. I ran into some 90 calorie "garden burgers" and 230 frozen dinners. I hardly ever use salt. Sometime I have half a sub from Subway. A dietician said that is OK. I stopped chocolate and ice cream months ago. Fat free pudding and fruit are my dessert, if I have any. Do you eat soy burgers or other soy products? I can make them taste good, if I add a little low-cal salsa or other spicy stuff. Ideas welcome. Thanks I would advise you to learn to cook. And stop polluting your body with industrial food and stuff made in a laboratory. Are your B-Complex vitamins made from coal? If you visited the place where they produce and saw the making from A to Z, I'm sure you would say "no thank you!" if offered to try the pill. Extremely disturbing. -------------- I cooked for myself every day for 30 years and in restaurants for 5 years . I can't any more because I can't hold a pan any longer or stand up without support. I have seizures and I use a machine at night so I don't stop breathing. http://www.charcot-marie-tooth.org/a...t/overview.php http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/ http://www.sleepapnea.org/-Masquerle texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - I apologize. For Vitamin B, I've been advised to get it from *natural* yeast that you can mix with low-fat, no sugar added, yogurt. Do you have organisations in your area that can help you with cooking? ------ Thank you, Mike. It's almost not necessary but a delight to find someone on Usenet who will apologize for something. I'm a little embarrassed right now. Your response hit a nerve, last night, and I almost ripped you a big one. Again, thank you. It's all good. One the best advice I can give you is that before trying to figure out what your menu should be that you build your menu around veggies. Eat as much veggie you can in a day and you won't have much have room left for anything left. I'm a steak person. I could have it for breakfast, no problem. I cooked a large piece of it last night, enough to feed two persons. If I had not had anything else to eat, I would have eaten all of it, and would have been hungry an hour later. What I did is to have a herbal tea and a huge soup of only veggies. After that, I did not have enough space for the whole steak, so I ate only the half of it, and kept the rest for the next day. When it comes to weight-management, nothing beats the veggies! The China study shows that those who ate the most fruits and vegetables were also the fattest. So it would seem that for weight management, at least if the purpose is to grow fatter, then eating veggies is the way to go. You'd have been better off eating the whole steak. Steak is meat and meat contains no carbohydrates. Carbohydrates drive insulin drives fat accumulation.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - "THE" China study? Never heard of it. If it was done by Chinese, then I would not rely to much on it. The statement you mane is a too broad, anyway. You're not telling me WICH fruits they eat. I eat mostly those that don't make my glands produce too much fat-storing hormones. As for steak, I buy the one containing no hormones or antibiotics. All fruits and vegetables contain carbohydrates to some degree. There is only one fat-storing hormone, it's insulin and it's not a gland that makes it, it's the pancreas. More specifically, the beta cells inside the pancreas. And there is only two things that make the pancreas secrete and release insulin, it's carbohydrates and protein. But there's only one of those that causes fat to accumulate, it's carbohydrates. The mechanism is complicated and even I don't know everything that goes on but I'll try to explain it in the simplest terms I can. As I said, insulin is a storage hormone. Its primary function is to store nutrients, all nutrients inside fat cells. Insulin is the primary regulator of fat cells. Fat is stored inside fat cells as triglycerides. Fat is also transported as triglycerides. But triglycerides are too big to go through the fat cell membrane so it must be dismantled. Fat enters and exits fat cells as fatty acids. Once inside, the fatty acids are recombined into triglycerides using a molecule called alpha glycerol phosphate i.e. glycerol. This glycerol molecule is critical to fat accumulation. Without it, fatty acids can't be bound and fat can't be stored. This molecule is the by-product of glucose metabolism inside fat cells. As fat cells use glucose, they produce glycerol. This glycerol is used to recombine fatty acids into triglycerides for storage. As we eat carbohydrates, blood glucose rises, insulin rises, insulin takes glucose (and fatty acids) and stores it inside fat cells, fat cells use glucose, produce glycerol which can then be used to recombine the fatty acids into triglycerides for storage. Fat accumulates, we grow fat. Protein doesn't cause glucose to rise so it can't cause fat accumulation like I explained above even though it causes insulin to rise. However, in the context of a low carb diet, eating protein can cause a stall in fat loss temporarily because it causes insulin to rise temporarily. The solution to this is easy, eat less protein but eat more fat. |
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Martin Levac wrote:
All fruits and vegetables contain carbohydrates to some degree. There is only one fat-storing hormone, it's insulin and it's not a gland that makes it, it's the pancreas. More specifically, the beta cells inside the pancreas. Ah. At this point you've finally come out as a no-carb troll. History says no-carb trolls don't last so you're not a problem. And there is only two things that make the pancreas secrete and release insulin, it's carbohydrates and protein. But there's only one of those that causes fat to accumulate, it's carbohydrates. This is incorrect. It's only carbs. See glucogenesis for how excess protein is converted to glucose for use as fuel. The mechanism is complicated and even I don't know everything that goes on but I'll try to explain it in the simplest terms I can. The mechanism is only complicated to people who want it to be as simple as "if low carb is good, then lower carb is better and zero carb is best". If it were that simple every single low carb book out there would recommend doing exactly that. None do and without exception folks who draw out quotes on the topic to support that view ignore the context from the book they are quoting. Below some point in dietary carbs eating less carb does not result in lower insulin release. Lower isn't better all the way to zero. Protein doesn't cause glucose to rise Incorrect. See glucogenesis for how excess dietary protein is converted to glucose at a bit over 50% energy efficiency. ... However, in the context of a low carb diet, eating protein can cause a stall in fat loss temporarily because it causes insulin to rise temporarily. The solution to this is easy, eat less protein but eat more fat. Also incorrect. This ignores the fact that fat is pulled from storage based on the concentration of the hormone glucagon and that glucagon is released in an indirect result of (dietary fat calories minus dietary carb calories) and that's why low carbing is high fat. |
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...Eat only meat. Fatty meat preferably. ...
Many persistent environmental pollutants (ie PCBs, dioxins, pesticides, herbicides, plasticizers, heavy metals, solvents, etc) are lipohilic. A diet high in animal fat will significantly increase exposure to such pollutants. See http://www.newscientist.com/article/...html?full=true Search www.pubmed.com for "TCDD" (a dioxin) to see the effects of one such pollutant. |
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"Info" wrote in message
.. . If this is a duplicate, please accept my apologies. I weigh 184 and am 5'7". I need to lose twenty pounds and I cannot exercise because I'm in a wheelchair. What is your daily calorie intake and what do you eat to keep your taste buds interested when you've cut back on food or calories? I eat All Bran with skim milk in the AM and at least two apples a day. I drink four or five glasses of water a day, some decaf tea and two Metamucil cocktails. I also take several B-Complex vitamins. I ran into some 90 calorie "garden burgers" and 230 frozen dinners. I hardly ever use salt. Sometime I have half a sub from Subway. A dietician said that is OK. I stopped chocolate and ice cream months ago. Fat free pudding and fruit are my dessert, if I have any. Do you eat soy burgers or other soy products? I can make them taste good, if I add a little low-cal salsa or other spicy stuff. Ideas welcome. Thanks Hi there, Let me try and break this down. I've been on the "Special K diet" for about 6-7 weeks. Thing is, I don't really like to call it a "diet" as such, because I do eat a bowl for breakfast and a bowl for lunch, with basically whatever I want in the evening, but I guess millions and millions of people eat cornflakes in the morning anyway so are they all "dieting" in one sense of the word? In those 6-7 weeks I've lost 6-7 kilos, or about 13-15 lbs. In other words, about a kilo or 2lbs a week. I'm 6'1" and weighed 113 kg (248 lbs), now I weigh about 106kg (233 lbs). First of all, you say you need to lose 20 lbs, but how quickly are you proposing to do it? If you aim to lose 20 lbs in about 8-10 weeks, then I think that's quite feasible and won't do you any harm. On the other hand, if you're trying to lose 20 lbs in 4 weeks, then not only are you going to find it difficult, but you'll probably be restricting your body's nutritional intake to an extent that isn't healthy. I started by looking at the recommended average daily calorie intake for a man. It's supposed to be 2,500 for men and 2,000 for women. I then said to myself "ok, factor in your exercise level and job". I have an office job, and exercise is something I get around to once every few weeks. So I figured that if 2,500 is the average, I probably needed to reduce the "baseline" a bit. So I set my "baseline" at 2,000 calories a day. I think this is an important step because if you don't exercise and don't have a manual job that requires energy, and you're still looking at 2,500 as the minimum, then you won't really see results. On the other hand, if you're a lumberjack by trade and finish it off with a game of squash at the gym, then your basic requirement is going to be somewhat higher. Of course, that figure is the basic number of calories that you are supposed to consume to be at a stable level. If you're looking to lose weight, then your target has to be a bit lower than that. So I said to myself that I'd aim for 1,500 to 1,750 calories a day. Now some people will be quick to say "oh calorie counting doesn't work". Well it doesn't work for many people simply because a) they don't have the discipline to follow it and b) it's not always obvious how many calories they're consuming. In my opinion, calorie counting *has* to work. When you strip away everything else, you're left with a basic, fundamental principle, that what goes in minus what goes out equals what's left. Of course, different people's respond differently to different things, but ultimately if you're expending a certain amount of energy which is greater than the amount of chemical energy contained in the food you eat, then your body will look to burn its own fat reserves to make up the deficit, rather than the opposite scenario when you consume more than you expend such that the body stores the additional chemical energy as fat. I suppose I'm fortunate in that I've never had an addiction to sweet food and chocolate. I enjoy them, yes, but I can go for ages without them and not miss them. Rather, my weakness is to takeaway food so part of the plan was to cut that down. By implication, cutting down on these foods reduced my calorie intake, since most are very high in calories, but the key point was that nothing is off-limits. The cereal in the morning is about 250 calories, same again at lunch. Sometimes I'll actually substitute the lunchtime bowl with some fruit, also does the trick. This way, if I've used up about 500 calories, I can enjoy a nice meal with 1,250-1,500 calories in the evening. Yes, there are some people that will say "oh but you need more calories in the morning", and others will say "you shouldn't eat after such and such hour", but I think they're missing the point. The point is that we are not trying to fine tune our bodies to the degree that an olympic athlete requires, only eating foods from a prescribed list and at certain times of day. What we are trying to do (at least what I was trying to do) was to begin to invoke a general trend in my eating habits, resulting in a gradual weight loss. What many people tend to do is hit the spring, fresh from the excesses of Christmas/New Year and start thinking "oh I need to get that bikini body" (I don't wear one myself...) or something like that, and then try to achieve the impossible in a short space of time. |
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