Are carbs carbs?

I guess I know that not all carbs are created equal. I have chosen to NOT
subtract out anything when figuring my carb intake. I have been staying
under 20g since December and have lost 55lbs and gone from size 44 to 36. (I
do not monitor carbs super close so I may have been a bit over on occasion)
I have NEVER cheated. I have had no bread (Except communion) and no sugar.

Anyway - I thought the following information was interesting.

Here are the details on my absolutly favorite candy bar

REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar
NET WT 1.8 OZ (51 g)
Serving Size 1 bar

Calories 280
Calories from Fat 140
Total Fat 16g
-Sat. Fat 4.5g
Cholest. 0 mg
Sodium 70 mg
Total Carb. 27g
-Dietary Fiber 2g
-Sugars 20g
Protein 6g

And from an Atkins Advantage bar...

Atkins AdvantageTM Bar - S'mores
Serving Size: one 60 gram bar
Total Servings: 0
Net Carbs: 3 grams

Calories: 220
Calories from fat: 90
Total Fat10 g
-Saturated Fat 5 g
Cholesterol 0 mg
Sodium 130 mg
Potassium 190 mg
Total Carbohydrate 26 g
-Dietary Fiber 11 g
-Sugars 0 g
Protein 17 g

So, with the rules I set up for myself these to candy bars, you will notice,
have 27g and 26g of carbs respectively. Atkins has 60 fewer calories. Both
are out 4 me.
What say you?

B
260/205/185

Candy bars are not low carb.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW


"Brikp" wrote in message
...
I guess I know that not all carbs are created equal. I have chosen to NOT
subtract out anything when figuring my carb intake. I have been staying
under 20g since December and have lost 55lbs and gone from size 44 to 36.
(I
do not monitor carbs super close so I may have been a bit over on
occasion)
I have NEVER cheated. I have had no bread (Except communion) and no sugar.

Anyway - I thought the following information was interesting.

Here are the details on my absolutly favorite candy bar

REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar
NET WT 1.8 OZ (51 g)
Serving Size 1 bar

Calories 280
Calories from Fat 140
Total Fat 16g
-Sat. Fat 4.5g
Cholest. 0 mg
Sodium 70 mg
Total Carb. 27g
-Dietary Fiber 2g
-Sugars 20g
Protein 6g

And from an Atkins Advantage bar...

Atkins AdvantageTM Bar - S'mores
Serving Size: one 60 gram bar
Total Servings: 0
Net Carbs: 3 grams

Calories: 220
Calories from fat: 90
Total Fat10 g
-Saturated Fat 5 g
Cholesterol 0 mg
Sodium 130 mg
Potassium 190 mg
Total Carbohydrate 26 g
-Dietary Fiber 11 g
-Sugars 0 g
Protein 17 g

So, with the rules I set up for myself these to candy bars, you will
notice,
have 27g and 26g of carbs respectively. Atkins has 60 fewer calories. Both
are out 4 me.
What say you?

B
260/205/185

"Brikp" writes:
What say you?

The Atkins bar has three times the protein :-)

And some people can eat some sugar alcohols without problem, so if the
Atkins bars use those SAs, they can eat them. It depends, and
everyone is different in this respect.

I agree. I haven't had one since December and that included the Atkins candy
bars. Seems some people eat these and think they are going to help them
loose weight. My point is, I suppose, is that neitehr the Atkins OR the real
thing is good for weight loss. I suppose thats your point too.

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
m...
Candy bars are not low carb.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW


"Brikp" wrote in message
...
I guess I know that not all carbs are created equal. I have chosen to
NOT
subtract out anything when figuring my carb intake. I have been staying
under 20g since December and have lost 55lbs and gone from size 44 to
36.
(I
do not monitor carbs super close so I may have been a bit over on
occasion)
I have NEVER cheated. I have had no bread (Except communion) and no
sugar.

Anyway - I thought the following information was interesting.

Here are the details on my absolutly favorite candy bar

REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar
NET WT 1.8 OZ (51 g)
Serving Size 1 bar

Calories 280
Calories from Fat 140
Total Fat 16g
-Sat. Fat 4.5g
Cholest. 0 mg
Sodium 70 mg
Total Carb. 27g
-Dietary Fiber 2g
-Sugars 20g
Protein 6g

And from an Atkins Advantage bar...

Atkins AdvantageTM Bar - S'mores
Serving Size: one 60 gram bar
Total Servings: 0
Net Carbs: 3 grams

Calories: 220
Calories from fat: 90
Total Fat10 g
-Saturated Fat 5 g
Cholesterol 0 mg
Sodium 130 mg
Potassium 190 mg
Total Carbohydrate 26 g
-Dietary Fiber 11 g
-Sugars 0 g
Protein 17 g

So, with the rules I set up for myself these to candy bars, you will
notice,
have 27g and 26g of carbs respectively. Atkins has 60 fewer calories.
Both
are out 4 me.
What say you?

B
260/205/185

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:26:20 -0400, "Brikp"
announced in front of God and everybody:

I agree. I haven't had one since December and that included the Atkins candy
bars. Seems some people eat these and think they are going to help them
loose weight. My point is, I suppose, is that neitehr the Atkins OR the real
thing is good for weight loss. I suppose thats your point too.

He doesn't really have a point. He offers pretty much the same
knee-jerk response about twelve times a week. Some people find it
amusing.

That said ... if you really need to ask whether a low-carb protein bar
is any better for you than a sugar-filled candy bar, then you
definitely need to pick up a book and read about low-carb eating no
matter how much weight you've lost.

Your post smells strongly of troll, but you could just be sort of
dumb.

Dawn

Brikp wrote:

So, with the rules I set up for myself these to candy bars, you will notice,
have 27g and 26g of carbs respectively. Atkins has 60 fewer calories. Both
are out 4 me.
What say you?

I subtract fiber in calculating carbs.

I don't care how sugar alcohols work, I think they're crap and don't eat
'em, so don't have to subtract them.

In general, chocolate should not be a significant portion of anyone's
diet, whether trying to lose weight or not. It's junk food.

However, as an ocassional treat, I think either bittersweet baking
chocolate (which is fairly low-carb) or Lynne's chocolate (recipe made
with baking chocolate, butter, cream and artifical sweeteners - Google
for it) are preferable choices to either the sugar-containing or the
sugar-alcohol-containing crap. These choices are low-carb, but not
low-calorie, so should be uses with discretion.

Cocoa powder is both low-carb and low-calorie so can be used for
chocolate flavored stuff if you want the taste of chocolate but don't
have to have actual chocolate bars.

--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

Absolutely.

--

Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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"Brikp" wrote in message
...
I agree. I haven't had one since December and that included the Atkins
candy
bars. Seems some people eat these and think they are going to help them
loose weight. My point is, I suppose, is that neitehr the Atkins OR the
real
thing is good for weight loss. I suppose thats your point too.

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
m...
Candy bars are not low carb.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this
guy's
head. -- MFW


"Brikp" wrote in message
...
I guess I know that not all carbs are created equal. I have chosen to
NOT
subtract out anything when figuring my carb intake. I have been
staying
under 20g since December and have lost 55lbs and gone from size 44 to
36.
(I
do not monitor carbs super close so I may have been a bit over on
occasion)
I have NEVER cheated. I have had no bread (Except communion) and no
sugar.

Anyway - I thought the following information was interesting.

Here are the details on my absolutly favorite candy bar

REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar
NET WT 1.8 OZ (51 g)
Serving Size 1 bar

Calories 280
Calories from Fat 140
Total Fat 16g
-Sat. Fat 4.5g
Cholest. 0 mg
Sodium 70 mg
Total Carb. 27g
-Dietary Fiber 2g
-Sugars 20g
Protein 6g

And from an Atkins Advantage bar...

Atkins AdvantageTM Bar - S'mores
Serving Size: one 60 gram bar
Total Servings: 0
Net Carbs: 3 grams

Calories: 220
Calories from fat: 90
Total Fat10 g
-Saturated Fat 5 g
Cholesterol 0 mg
Sodium 130 mg
Potassium 190 mg
Total Carbohydrate 26 g
-Dietary Fiber 11 g
-Sugars 0 g
Protein 17 g

So, with the rules I set up for myself these to candy bars, you will
notice,
have 27g and 26g of carbs respectively. Atkins has 60 fewer calories.
Both
are out 4 me.
What say you?

B
260/205/185

Brikp wrote:

Here are the details on my absolutly favorite candy bar

REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar
NET WT 1.8 OZ (51 g)
Serving Size 1 bar

Calories 280
Calories from Fat 140
Total Fat 16g
-Sat. Fat 4.5g
Cholest. 0 mg
Sodium 70 mg
Total Carb. 27g
-Dietary Fiber 2g
-Sugars 20g
Protein 6g

Aren't you the same person who started a thread about not being able to
understand HOW on earth a person can cheat?
--
The post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion
and experience. Please interpret accordingly.

Brikp wrote:
| I agree. I haven't had one since December and that included the
| Atkins candy bars. Seems some people eat these and think they are
| going to help them loose weight. My point is, I suppose, is that
| neitehr the Atkins OR the real thing is good for weight loss. I
| suppose thats your point too.

You can only speak for youself; everyone reacts differently to eating
different things. That is why it's customary in this support NG to use
qualifying phrases like "IMHO" (in my humble opinion) and "YMMV" (your
mileage may vary) when you state "facts" that are based only on your
personal experience.

I also have lost exactly 55 pounds since December (12/15/03 to be exact) and
I occassionally eat an Atkins Endulge bar, or a small amount of Breyers Carb
Smart ice cream. The way I see it, since we've lost the same amount of
weight in the same time period, you've been unnecessarily depriving yourself
while I've been enjoying my occassional treats! :-).

IMHO of course; YMMV.
--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
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Brikp wrote:
| I guess I know that not all carbs are created equal. I have chosen to
| NOT subtract out anything when figuring my carb intake. I have been
| staying under 20g since December and have lost 55lbs and gone from
| size 44 to 36. (I do not monitor carbs super close so I may have been
| a bit over on occasion) I have NEVER cheated. I have had no bread
| (Except communion) and no sugar.
|
| Anyway - I thought the following information was interesting.
|
| Here are the details on my absolutly favorite candy bar
|
| REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar
| NET WT 1.8 OZ (51 g)
| Serving Size 1 bar
|
| Calories 280
| Calories from Fat 140
| Total Fat 16g
| -Sat. Fat 4.5g
| Cholest. 0 mg
| Sodium 70 mg
| Total Carb. 27g
| -Dietary Fiber 2g
| -Sugars 20g
| Protein 6g
|
| And from an Atkins Advantage bar...
|
| Atkins AdvantageTM Bar - S'mores
| Serving Size: one 60 gram bar
| Total Servings: 0
| Net Carbs: 3 grams
|
| Calories: 220
| Calories from fat: 90
| Total Fat10 g
| -Saturated Fat 5 g
| Cholesterol 0 mg
| Sodium 130 mg
| Potassium 190 mg
| Total Carbohydrate 26 g
| -Dietary Fiber 11 g
| -Sugars 0 g
| Protein 17 g
|
| So, with the rules I set up for myself these to candy bars, you will
| notice, have 27g and 26g of carbs respectively. Atkins has 60 fewer
| calories. Both are out 4 me.
| What say you?
|
| B
| 260/205/185


The Atkins bar has actually 3 net carb grams, the "real" bar has 27 carb
grams -- of pure sugar. Sugar alcohols and fiber are undigestible and pass
through the system without being absorbed, so do not affect blood sugar or
insulin levels in most people.

Just because you made up your own biological rules doesn't mean that they're
valid. (You could decide that the law of gravity really doesn't apply to
you and jump off a really really high building; I doubt that your disbelief
would keep you from being splattered all over the street below).
--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
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