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Old May 24th, 2004, 05:54 AM
Kerri Ratliff
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I just followed a link I believe that came from this newsgroup.
It says that eating things that taste sweet, even if they do not contain
carbs, makes your body think it has carbs, so therefore insulin is released?
It then has similiar effects to have eaten carbs? Examples would be lowcarb
cheesecake you might somtimes make, or maybe some lowcarb dessert?
Kerri
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Old May 24th, 2004, 07:46 AM
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SOME people find this happens with them, not everyone.

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"Kerri Ratliff" wrote in message
news:befsc.87339$Fl5.17129@okepread04...
I just followed a link I believe that came from this newsgroup.
It says that eating things that taste sweet, even if they do not contain
carbs, makes your body think it has carbs, so therefore insulin is
released?
It then has similiar effects to have eaten carbs? Examples would be
lowcarb
cheesecake you might somtimes make, or maybe some lowcarb dessert?
Kerri
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Old May 24th, 2004, 08:27 AM
revek
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The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then Kerri Ratliff
proclaimed:
I just followed a link I believe that came from this newsgroup.
It says that eating things that taste sweet, even if they do not
contain carbs, makes your body think it has carbs, so therefore
insulin is released? It then has similiar effects to have eaten
carbs? Examples would be lowcarb cheesecake you might somtimes make,
or maybe some lowcarb dessert?
Kerri


Yes this phenomenon is possible. One reason why "just a taste" can be
the begining of a bad spiral downwards (and chewing and spitting is not
recommended for this and other reasons).

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issue...ls_health.html

http://www.dietandbody.com/article1082.html

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Old May 24th, 2004, 10:39 AM
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"Kerri Ratliff" wrote in message
news:befsc.87339$Fl5.17129@okepread04...
I just followed a link I believe that came from this newsgroup.
It says that eating things that taste sweet, even if they do not contain
carbs, makes your body think it has carbs, so therefore insulin is

released?
It then has similiar effects to have eaten carbs?


No. This is one of the myths low-carb food purists like to bat around.
This effect has been studied considerably and it has been overwhelmingly
demonstrated that artificial sweeteners do not by themselves promote the
release of insulin. Read for yourself:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=9062523

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=7652029

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...st_uids=796401

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=8140158

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=3046854

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=3522147

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=3908628

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=6382247

(links may have to be cut and pasted in your browser)

Most studies demonstrating any link between artificial sweeteners and
insulin response were done on rats and could not be replicated in humans.
Also, in most studies indicating an increased insulin response from an
artificial sweetener, the sweetener was given in conjunction with glucose or
sucrose, not by itself.

So enjoy your artificial sweeteners without fear of an insulin response.

Reb

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Old May 24th, 2004, 01:36 PM
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"Kerri Ratliff" wrote in message
news:befsc.87339$Fl5.17129@okepread04...
I just followed a link I believe that came from this newsgroup.
It says that eating things that taste sweet, even if they do not contain
carbs, makes your body think it has carbs, so therefore insulin is

released?
It then has similiar effects to have eaten carbs? Examples would be

lowcarb
cheesecake you might somtimes make, or maybe some lowcarb dessert?
Kerri
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I just don't believe this happens. I went 4 months on the low-carb diet
losing weight steadily without any low carb ice creams, desserts, etc. The
last 6 months of low-carb dieting I had a lot of the low carb sweet items
and still lost the same amount of weight at the same rate. I basically just
counted carbs and continued on.

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Old May 24th, 2004, 02:06 PM
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It don't happen to me as far as I know. But it could happen to others.
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Old May 24th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Sammy
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In article _ojsc.106803$xw3.6248991@attbi_s04,
"Reb" wrote:

"Kerri Ratliff" wrote in message
news:befsc.87339$Fl5.17129@okepread04...
I just followed a link I believe that came from this newsgroup.
It says that eating things that taste sweet, even if they do not contain
carbs, makes your body think it has carbs, so therefore insulin is

released?
It then has similiar effects to have eaten carbs?


No. This is one of the myths low-carb food purists like to bat around.
This effect has been studied considerably and it has been overwhelmingly
demonstrated that artificial sweeteners do not by themselves promote the
release of insulin. Read for yourself:

SNIP!!!


So enjoy your artificial sweeteners without fear of an insulin response.

Reb

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You know what's really good? Bacon.


Reb, I don't have time or fingerstrength to review all your references,
but does that hold true for aspartame? Is Diet Soda allowable (ignore
caffeine for the time-being...)

S.
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Old May 24th, 2004, 02:26 PM
Jim Bard
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"Sunshyne" wrote in message
...
It don't happen to me as far as I know. But it could happen to others.


I've wondered, occasionally, if this were a possibility. That the ingestion
of something "sweet" might invoke a physical response similar to that of the
actual consumption of sugar.

Rather similar to the "placebo effect", isn't it? Which works with some
people, not with others.


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Old May 24th, 2004, 02:44 PM
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I think this was just imagined by some folks. Some people claim that
artificial sweeteners cause them to crave sweets. they assume that the
craving is caused by an insulin response.

This is bunk, until someone comes up with a double blind study. (They
won't.)

Cubit
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Old May 24th, 2004, 03:17 PM
Dave Balcom
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 08:26:41 -0500, "Jim Bard"
wrote:

}I've wondered, occasionally, if this were a possibility. That the ingestion
}of something "sweet" might invoke a physical response similar to that of the
}actual consumption of sugar.

Probably more psychological than physical. Not saying the mind can't do
some very powerful & strange things! Here is just a theory: people who
really fear sweet-tasting food as being anti-LC can cause themselves a lot
of stress. Stress causes an adrenaline dump. If there is a link between the
release of adrenaline and insulin (I seem to remember reading there is),
then there can be a possible physical response (all based on the mind).
Another 6 degrees of separation...

This wouldn't affect most diabetics though as we don't have the extra
insulin to release...

Just a thought...

Later,
Dave

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