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Old April 27th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Elaine
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On 2005-04-27, Ignoramus2977 wrote:
The rich get richer by acting poor, and the poor get poorer by
acting rich


That's a good saying... Goes along the lines of _Millionaire next
door_.

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Indeed. I much enjoyed the book, and we've found that our quality of
life has gone up as our expenditures have gone down.

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The rich get richer by acting poor, and the poor get poorer by acting rich.
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Old April 27th, 2005, 07:54 PM
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Evelyn Ruut wrote:
I am sorry to say you are probably right.


I am a lost soul, not need to feel sorry for me.

I also noticed that Stacy has automatically pronounced a lot of vegetables
are "icky" not realizing that there are many ways to prepare them that would
change the flavors in amazing ways.


A lot of veggies? The only veggies that get mentioned is cabbage.
Cabbage is not a lot. And from what is see in my country cabbage is not
popular.

I still say the problem is in lack of education.


Don't kill or lie or cheat. People know that. Yet they do it.
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Old April 27th, 2005, 07:58 PM
Stacey Bender
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Elaine wrote:
In 1997, I did an experiment and lived for a week on $5.


I think people miss the gulf between what people could do and what
people do do. That's the interesting bit.
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Old April 27th, 2005, 08:10 PM
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On 2005-04-27, Stacey Bender wrote:
Elaine wrote:
In 1997, I did an experiment and lived for a week on $5.


I think people miss the gulf between what people could do and what
people do do. That's the interesting bit.


Well, for $5/week I was eating pretty marginal food. It was boring,
and on the cabbage/beans/rice end of the scale. By comparison, $4/p/d
is luxurious. We drink wine, eat steaks, eat fresh vegetables, eat
fresh fish, etc.

There are no community organizations that teach eating or cooking
cheap though. Some of the extension services touch on it, but they
rely on fixed menus and primarily canned food. I wouldn't eat those
meals.

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The rich get richer by acting poor, and the poor get poorer by acting rich.
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Old April 27th, 2005, 09:32 PM
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"Stacey Bender" wrote in message
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Evelyn Ruut wrote:
I am sorry to say you are probably right.


I am a lost soul, not need to feel sorry for me.

I also noticed that Stacy has automatically pronounced a lot of
vegetables are "icky" not realizing that there are many ways to prepare
them that would change the flavors in amazing ways.


A lot of veggies? The only veggies that get mentioned is cabbage. Cabbage
is not a lot. And from what is see in my country cabbage is not popular.

I still say the problem is in lack of education.


Don't kill or lie or cheat. People know that. Yet they do it.



Stacy, those things don't have much to do with eating cheap at home, and why
it seems to be less popular, or how that contributes toward making people
fat.

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Evelyn

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Old April 28th, 2005, 12:34 AM
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:58:43 -0700, Stacey Bender
wrote:

Some trolls, including yours, are beneficial. This one may have
benefited you if you learned some shopping tips for fruits and
vegetables such as buying in season and shopping at farmer's markets.


You are a god. Thank you. Next time you might want to actually read
posts instead of morphing them into your pet peeve.


I dropped out when it became obvious that we had reached the
entrenched attitude stages - "I'm right, you're wrong". I
haven't seen much in the way of cites or evidence, apart
from anecdotes and icky cabbages. And we certainly hven't
seen much logical argument.

However, I agree that "Some trolls, including yours, are
beneficial"; until they degenerate to repetition of
positions.


Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
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Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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Old April 28th, 2005, 04:06 AM
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"Stacey Bender" wrote in message
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Cabbage 49 cents (relatively expensive)
Beets 49 cents


Yuck and yuck.


Don't judge the world by your individual tastes. If hardly anyone ate
cabbage the supermarkets would not carry so much of it.

Rich


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Old April 28th, 2005, 04:14 AM
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"Stacey Bender" wrote in message
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You are wrong about fast food being cheap.


No, not really. It may not be as cheap as some horrible diet from cabbage,
potatoes,rice, and chicken. It is cheap, or at least comparable to a diet
of lean meats, fruits, a veggies, that is healthy food people would
actually want to eat. Given the cost per calorie, the taste, and
convenience, FF is a dominant option, as we see from actual behaviour.


Frozen hamburger patties. 5 lbs (15 patties) for $10. That's 67 cents
each. Hamburger buns are about $2 for 8, which is 25 cents each. Throw a
frozen patty in a frying pan and in less than 10 minutes it is done.
Cheaper than fast food, more substantial than fast food, more convenient
than fast food. Not healthy, but that doesn't seem to enter into your
calculations.

Rich


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Old April 28th, 2005, 05:33 AM
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rich wrote:
"Stacey Bender" wrote in message
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Cabbage 49 cents (relatively expensive)
Beets 49 cents


Yuck and yuck.



Don't judge the world by your individual tastes. If hardly anyone ate
cabbage the supermarkets would not carry so much of it.


I have never been to a pot luck and seen a cabbage dish. I have never
seen anyone buy it. I have rarely seen it in a dish in a non-asian
restauraunt. I have never seen it served when visiting a friend.

So i do not confuse my tastes with the world, but i also think cabbage
is low on the popularity list.
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Old April 28th, 2005, 05:35 AM
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rich wrote:
Frozen hamburger patties. 5 lbs (15 patties) for $10. That's 67 cents
each. Hamburger buns are about $2 for 8, which is 25 cents each. Throw a
frozen patty in a frying pan and in less than 10 minutes it is done.
Cheaper than fast food, more substantial than fast food, more convenient
than fast food. Not healthy, but that doesn't seem to enter into your
calculations.


Leave me out of it. How does it fit in the consumption of the public?
You are aware of the popularity of FF despite your surety of what is
superior?
 




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