My daily intake

janice wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:37 +0100, Annabel Smyth
wrote:


Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:


Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like
"mountain
of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so
blunt, but you
can't eat mountains of anything when dieting.

You can when it's vegetables; I was looking at the pack of salad I had
half of last night, and the nutrition information tells me that 100
grammes contains 18 kcal. Now, I had less than that - half of a 160g
pack, so 80 g - and I can assure you, that was a mountain of mixed fresh
vegetables!


I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not
weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables.

I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing
about me.

janice
233/179/133

I also know nothing about you but when I read the "mountain of mixed
fresh veg" it got my attention. Not because of the calories or point
values but simply quantity. I believe and many others disagree, the key
to any long-term weight strategy is portion control. Under that belief,
eventually one has to learn to eat less. A habit if you will. Although
these veggies are low in calories, eating large portions of anything
will be slowing progress or putting off the goal of smaller quantity
type eating. Again, it’s not the veggies that hurt, it’s the notion
that one needs to eat large quantities of anything to fill up or defeat
hunger.

Just my opinion, agree or delete.

185/140/155/160

janice wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:37 +0100, Annabel Smyth
wrote:


Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:


Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like
"mountain
of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so
blunt, but you
can't eat mountains of anything when dieting.

You can when it's vegetables; I was looking at the pack of salad I had
half of last night, and the nutrition information tells me that 100
grammes contains 18 kcal. Now, I had less than that - half of a 160g
pack, so 80 g - and I can assure you, that was a mountain of mixed fresh
vegetables!


I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not
weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables.

I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing
about me.

janice
233/179/133

I also know nothing about you but when I read the "mountain of mixed
fresh veg" it got my attention. Not because of the calories or point
values but simply quantity. I believe and many others disagree, the key
to any long-term weight strategy is portion control. Under that belief,
eventually one has to learn to eat less. A habit if you will. Although
these veggies are low in calories, eating large portions of anything
will be slowing progress or putting off the goal of smaller quantity
type eating. Again, it’s not the veggies that hurt, it’s the notion
that one needs to eat large quantities of anything to fill up or defeat
hunger.

Just my opinion, agree or delete.

185/140/155/160

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:04:58 +0100, (janice) wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:37 +0100, Annabel Smyth
wrote:

Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like "mountain
of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so blunt, but you
can't eat mountains of anything when dieting.

You can when it's vegetables; I was looking at the pack of salad I had
half of last night, and the nutrition information tells me that 100
grammes contains 18 kcal. Now, I had less than that - half of a 160g
pack, so 80 g - and I can assure you, that was a mountain of mixed fresh
vegetables!

I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not
weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables.

I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing
about me.


Ignore him, Janice. His statement was downright silly. Vegetables
are great for you and a great way to fill up. There's nothing noble
about going hungry. The thing is to learn to eat as much good food as
you need to be satisfied, and vegetables are high on the list of good
foods. No doubt one could theoretically overdo even vegetables, but
it would be tough!

Chris
262/141/ (145-150)

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:04:58 +0100, (janice) wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:37 +0100, Annabel Smyth
wrote:

Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like "mountain
of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so blunt, but you
can't eat mountains of anything when dieting.

You can when it's vegetables; I was looking at the pack of salad I had
half of last night, and the nutrition information tells me that 100
grammes contains 18 kcal. Now, I had less than that - half of a 160g
pack, so 80 g - and I can assure you, that was a mountain of mixed fresh
vegetables!

I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not
weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables.

I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing
about me.


Ignore him, Janice. His statement was downright silly. Vegetables
are great for you and a great way to fill up. There's nothing noble
about going hungry. The thing is to learn to eat as much good food as
you need to be satisfied, and vegetables are high on the list of good
foods. No doubt one could theoretically overdo even vegetables, but
it would be tough!

Chris
262/141/ (145-150)

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:57:58 -0400, Rob wrote:

janice wrote:

I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not
weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables.

I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing
about me.

janice
233/179/133

I also know nothing about you but when I read the "mountain of mixed
fresh veg" it got my attention. Not because of the calories or point
values but simply quantity. I believe and many others disagree, the key
to any long-term weight strategy is portion control. Under that belief,
eventually one has to learn to eat less. A habit if you will. Although
these veggies are low in calories, eating large portions of anything
will be slowing progress or putting off the goal of smaller quantity
type eating. Again, it’s not the veggies that hurt, it’s the notion
that one needs to eat large quantities of anything to fill up or defeat
hunger.

Just my opinion, agree or delete.

I've never felt that it was necessary to aim to reduce my portion size
for the sake of it - just to learn to eat smaller portions of some
foods, particularly the calorie dense ones. But for me, the other
side to this is eating bigger portions of foods that are relatively
low in calories but provide fibre and high satiety value for the
calories involved.
When I'm in binge mode, vegetables are the first thing to get pushed
out of my diet - they don't leave enough room for my favourite binge
foods! But when I'm sticking with my WOE, they help me to feel
satisfied, as well as being healthy. Same as I try to eat my fruit
with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or
bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this
helps me.


janice
233/179/133

janice wrote:

Same as I try to eat my fruit
with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or
bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this
helps me.

Speaking of peel: I was wondering tonight if it would be better to leave
the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and
the fruits you mentioned long ago.

--
Walking (but mostly biking!) on . . .
Laurie in Maine
207/110 60 inches of attitude!
Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03

"SnugBear" wrote in message
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janice wrote:

Same as I try to eat my fruit
with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or
bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this
helps me.

Speaking of peel: I was wondering tonight if it would be better to leave
the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and
the fruits you mentioned long ago.

--
Walking (but mostly biking!) on . . .
Laurie in Maine
207/110 60 inches of attitude!
Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03

I find cucumber peels to be bitter sometimes. If I get them from the
farmstand I leave them on, if I get them from the store, I peel them. Or, I
do the fancy peeling and make stripes if I'm having company

Jenn

On 22 Aug 2004 00:31:01 GMT, SnugBear wrote:

janice wrote:

Same as I try to eat my fruit
with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or
bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this
helps me.

Speaking of peel: I was wondering tonight if it would be better to leave
the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and
the fruits you mentioned long ago.

I don't know if it's better, but I'm pretty sure it's harmless. I've
always left the peel on cucumbers. I like the added crunch.

Chris

On 22 Aug 2004 00:31:01 GMT, SnugBear wrote:

janice wrote:

Same as I try to eat my fruit
with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or
bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this
helps me.

Speaking of peel: I was wondering tonight if it would be better to leave
the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and
the fruits you mentioned long ago.

I don't know - I always do. Peeled cucumber makes me think of dainty
sandwiches at an afternoon tea party, with the crusts cut off the
bread.

The only thing is that some people find the peel of cucumber makes it
a bit bitter.

janice

SnugBear wrote in alt.support.diet on Sun, 22 Aug 2004:

janice wrote:

Same as I try to eat my fruit
with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or
bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this
helps me.

Speaking of peel: I was wondering tonight if it would be better to leave
the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and
the fruits you mentioned long ago.

Cucumber is meant to be less indigestible if you leave the peel on,
which seems counter-intuitive, but there you are....
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg