Can a low-carb diet fail if you take in too many calories?

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
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Ernie Sty wrote:

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories
I am 298 now

Are you still near 2000 calories per day? At 298 that's not
overeating.


If he's not losing weight, then he's overeating.

Try to reason through the statement using logic instead of just blurting out
more "Pravda".

"Doug Freyburger" wrote

2) Eat sufficient saturated fat and the body will respond by
releasing insulin to pull you out of ketosis so the bias is taken
away and that saturated fat can flow into storage. Look up the
insulin feedback loop to research this. It takes a lot, but 5000
calories per day should do.

And the body's releasing insulin takes you out of ketosis.... how? Could you
provide some kind of backup on this please?

HG

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:02:59 GMT, "jk" wrote:


"Luna" wrote in message
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"jk" wrote:


Oh really? Why not give it a try. Start today by eating ONLY 5000
calories of butter, or lard, or heavy cream, and see if you gain or lose
weight. Please report back, we're all anxiously waiting for your report.

Oh, now I get it. It won't make you fat to eat that way because you'll
puke most of it back up.

--
Michelle Levin


Now that's yet another reason aside from diahrea. But seriously... eating
5000 calories of fat all by itself won't make you fat. It's a fact that
dietary fat doesn't convert to serum or body fat. It's only when you add
carbs to it, that the body starts converting.

I agree with you. And so does several million others who went from
low-fat to low-carb high protein/fat and consumed double the calories
and started losing weight.

It's a fact, jack, regardless of what the trolls on here say.

"jk" writes:
It's a fact that dietary fat doesn't convert to serum or body fat.

This is so wrong it's amusing.

Dietary fat MUST "convert to" serum fat as there's no other way to get
it out of your digestive tract (how else do you expect fat to get to
your muscles and such to be used)?

And sufficient dietary fat causes fat storage via acylation
stimulation protein (ASP), even without elevated insulin levels.

Elevated ASP can also activate insulin release from the pancreas.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/for...ead.php?t=2689

"jk" writes:
It's a fact that dietary fat doesn't convert to serum or body fat.

This is so wrong it's amusing.

Dietary fat MUST "convert to" serum fat as there's no other way to get
it out of your digestive tract (how else do you expect fat to get to
your muscles and such to be used)?

And sufficient dietary fat causes fat storage via acylation
stimulation protein (ASP), even without elevated insulin levels.

Elevated ASP can also activate insulin release from the pancreas.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/for...ead.php?t=2689

"Ernie Sty" wrote in message ...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I lost a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself) but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat foods. I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.

You can eat too many calories on a low-carb diet. Perhaps try reducing
your calorie intake by 500 a day, still on low-carb, and increase your
exercise intensity and see if you start losing weight.

"jk" wrote in message ...

bull****. if you eat 5000 calories of fat you will get fat.


Oh really? Why not give it a try. Start today by eating ONLY 5000
calories of butter, or lard, or heavy cream, and see if you gain or lose
weight. Please report back, we're all anxiously waiting for your report.

If you eat only 5000 calories of fat and nothing else, you will get no
protein, and so will lose muscle. You might lose weight but would
probably end up GAINING FAT, even if you've lost weight. A high
protein intake and resistance exercise is crucial to any plan to lose
fat.

"jk" wrote in message ...

bull****. if you eat 5000 calories of fat you will get fat.


Oh really? Why not give it a try. Start today by eating ONLY 5000
calories of butter, or lard, or heavy cream, and see if you gain or lose
weight. Please report back, we're all anxiously waiting for your report.

If you eat only 5000 calories of fat and nothing else, you will get no
protein, and so will lose muscle. You might lose weight but would
probably end up GAINING FAT, even if you've lost weight. A high
protein intake and resistance exercise is crucial to any plan to lose
fat.

Hannah Gruen wrote:
And the body's releasing insulin takes you out of ketosis.... how? Could you
provide some kind of backup on this please?

In persons capable of producing insulin (not Type I diabetics), there
are feedback mechanisms to prevent blood ketone levels going too high
and causing ketoacidosis. The body slows or stops metabolizing fats,
and releases insulin to use glucose (if not from carb, then from
gluconeogenesis breakdown of proteins).

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

Hannah Gruen wrote:
And the body's releasing insulin takes you out of ketosis.... how? Could you
provide some kind of backup on this please?

In persons capable of producing insulin (not Type I diabetics), there
are feedback mechanisms to prevent blood ketone levels going too high
and causing ketoacidosis. The body slows or stops metabolizing fats,
and releases insulin to use glucose (if not from carb, then from
gluconeogenesis breakdown of proteins).

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."