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Old May 21st, 2004, 03:59 AM
curt
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That is obvious and something I am familiar with.

Why does this poster, post to a bunch of different groups? I deleted them
all but ours. Is this some kind of spam?

Curt

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"Leslie DiMaggio" wrote in message
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
It is recognized as growing health problem in U.S.

Thursday, May 20, 2004

By SUE VORENBERG
SCRIPPS HOWARD NEWS SERVICE

"Helen" doesn't mind that she hasn't eaten chocolate in 21 years.

In fact, the longtime member of Overeaters Anonymous says she hasn't even
missed it, which is the real miracle.

Helen, 66, who asked that her real name not be used, is thin now, but she
remembers the old days.

She used to eat jelly beans and Snickers bars in bed until she passed out
from insulin shock. Her obsession with food consumed her.

"I just ate all the time, and if I wasn't eating I was thinking about how
to get more food," she said, her blue eyes mirroring the intensity of her
addiction. "I didn't go to a show to see a movie. I went to have license

to
eat. I would even plan my binges. I would line food around my bed so I
could eat until I passed out."

Helen's symptoms are typical of a newly recognized disease called
binge-eating disorder, although she calls herself a compulsive overeater.

Her disease is one of three eating disorders -- anorexia nervosa and
bulimia nervosa are the others -- that are on the rise across the United
States, said Joel Yager, a University of New Mexico psychiatry professor
who specializes in eating disorders.

"There has been a definite rise in anorexia and bulimia every year since
the 1950s," Yager said. "That may have to do with society's preoccupation
with slimness, as fashion models and actresses have gotten slimmer on TV
and in magazines. That creates a lot of social peer pressure to be an
unhealthy low weight."

Binge-eating disorder -- which is diagnosed in about 70 percent of people
more than 100 pounds overweight -- is also rising across the United States
in women and men. It is part of the obesity epidemic, caused by underlying
mental disorders complicated by an overabundance of unhealthy food and

poor
exercise habits, Yager said.

In Helen's case, binge-eating disorder left her susceptible to Type 2
diabetes and joint problems. She also had frequent memory loss after her
food binges, she said.

She bottomed out in 1983, as a nursing student in California. Her 5-foot-6
frame had swelled to 215 pounds, 85 more than her suggested ideal weight

of
130.

The root of Helen's disease is very similar to anorexia nervosa and

bulimia
nervosa, both of which are associated with unhealthy weight loss.

Anorexics starve themselves to be thin and face a host of health problems,
including bone loss, heart failure and death. Bulimics binge on food, but
then force themselves to vomit, creating health problems such as heart
failure, ulcers and malnutrition, Yager said.






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Old May 21st, 2004, 04:21 AM
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The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then curt proclaimed:
That is obvious and something I am familiar with.

Why does this poster, post to a bunch of different groups? I deleted
them all but ours. Is this some kind of spam?


Giglamesh-frog.org is NPR or some such letter combo (according to Lady
Vetran) and crossposts between alt.fat.acceptance and a bunch of weight
loss groups and whatever else takes his fancy to try to stir up a
catfight. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along to make sure nobody
even tries to get anything actually *useful* out of the post.

You can killfile on partial message ids (for instance *gilgamesh.org)
with the filter program in my sig. If you use the same parameters for
Refs you also kill replies to that poster. That is, if you don't thrill
to watch the same stupid game played out between NPR and LV (and one or
two newbs) every time.

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Old May 21st, 2004, 11:41 AM
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This one through me off because I didn't see a problem with the topic. It
was an obvious topic. I mean, who the heck didn't know binge eating was a
disorder? Duh!?!

I usually don't respond to these cross posted messages, but this one was so
simple.

Curt

"revek" wrote in message
...
The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then curt proclaimed:
That is obvious and something I am familiar with.

Why does this poster, post to a bunch of different groups? I deleted
them all but ours. Is this some kind of spam?


Giglamesh-frog.org is NPR or some such letter combo (according to Lady
Vetran) and crossposts between alt.fat.acceptance and a bunch of weight
loss groups and whatever else takes his fancy to try to stir up a
catfight. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along to make sure nobody
even tries to get anything actually *useful* out of the post.

You can killfile on partial message ids (for instance *gilgamesh.org)
with the filter program in my sig. If you use the same parameters for
Refs you also kill replies to that poster. That is, if you don't thrill
to watch the same stupid game played out between NPR and LV (and one or
two newbs) every time.

--
revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html
NFILTER/NEWSPROXY w/FAQ and sample filters:
www.geocities.com/tanirevek/usefulfiles.html
"And to close on, the Usenet Dept. of Small Consolations. Some
kibologist just figured out that if you allow for every troll and
spammer and net.kook a space one KB by two you could store them all on
the six hundred forty Gigabyte HDD space of the news server at
zanzibar.com."




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Old May 21st, 2004, 12:27 PM
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curt wrote:
:: This one through me off because I didn't see a problem with the
:: topic. It was an obvious topic. I mean, who the heck didn't know
:: binge eating was a disorder? Duh!?!

The real question is how does one identify "binge" eating.

::
:: I usually don't respond to these cross posted messages, but this one
:: was so simple.
::
:: Curt
::
:: "revek" wrote in message
:: ...
::: The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then curt
::: proclaimed:
:::: That is obvious and something I am familiar with.
::::
:::: Why does this poster, post to a bunch of different groups? I
:::: deleted them all but ours. Is this some kind of spam?
:::
::: Giglamesh-frog.org is NPR or some such letter combo (according to
::: Lady Vetran) and crossposts between alt.fat.acceptance and a bunch
::: of weight loss groups and whatever else takes his fancy to try to
::: stir up a catfight. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along to
::: make sure nobody even tries to get anything actually *useful* out
::: of the post.
:::
::: You can killfile on partial message ids (for instance
::: *gilgamesh.org) with the filter program in my sig. If you use the
::: same parameters for Refs you also kill replies to that poster.
::: That is, if you don't thrill to watch the same stupid game played
::: out between NPR and LV (and one or two newbs) every time.
:::
::: --
::: revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html
::: NFILTER/NEWSPROXY w/FAQ and sample filters:
::: www.geocities.com/tanirevek/usefulfiles.html
::: "And to close on, the Usenet Dept. of Small Consolations. Some
::: kibologist just figured out that if you allow for every troll and
::: spammer and net.kook a space one KB by two you could store them all
::: on the six hundred forty Gigabyte HDD space of the news server at
::: zanzibar.com."


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Old May 21st, 2004, 01:33 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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curt wrote:
:: This one through me off because I didn't see a problem with the
:: topic. It was an obvious topic. I mean, who the heck didn't know
:: binge eating was a disorder? Duh!?!

The real question is how does one identify "binge" eating.


Well for me it is eating out of control in a sitting. I am not talking
about just overeating, I am talking about stuffing myself fast and furious
to the point of being very uncomfortable. Like a frenzy. Okay, so we have
all done it now and again, but the problem is, if you keep it up and it
becomes common. That is my definition, although some people may view it
differently.

I know I have thought about throwing up after these episodes, but I hate to
throw up. I just hate that...thank goodness.

Curt


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Old May 21st, 2004, 04:34 PM
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curt wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: curt wrote:
::::: This one through me off because I didn't see a problem with the
::::: topic. It was an obvious topic. I mean, who the heck didn't know
::::: binge eating was a disorder? Duh!?!
:::
::: The real question is how does one identify "binge" eating.
::
:: Well for me it is eating out of control in a sitting. I am not
:: talking about just overeating, I am talking about stuffing myself
:: fast and furious to the point of being very uncomfortable.

Hmmm....I guess my "binges" are different. I don't eat fast and furioius,
though I do overeat enough to stop weight loss for a time. I'll binge on
nuts, SA candy, and even LC stuff -- but not to the point of being very
uncomforable, just enough to realize that I overdid it. And it's always
very deliberate, not some out-of-control frenzy, though I do feel out of
control because I know I'm overeating my calorie target and eating stuff
that really ain't on the plan.

Like a
:: frenzy. Okay, so we have all done it now and again, but the problem
:: is, if you keep it up and it becomes common. That is my definition,
:: although some people may view it differently.
::
:: I know I have thought about throwing up after these episodes, but I
:: hate to throw up. I just hate that...thank goodness.

Yeah, good that you do because that'll lead to other problems....

::
:: Curt


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Old May 21st, 2004, 06:16 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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curt wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: curt wrote:
::::: This one through me off because I didn't see a problem with the
::::: topic. It was an obvious topic. I mean, who the heck didn't know
::::: binge eating was a disorder? Duh!?!
:::
::: The real question is how does one identify "binge" eating.
::
:: Well for me it is eating out of control in a sitting. I am not
:: talking about just overeating, I am talking about stuffing myself
:: fast and furious to the point of being very uncomfortable.

Hmmm....I guess my "binges" are different. I don't eat fast and furioius,
though I do overeat enough to stop weight loss for a time. I'll binge on
nuts, SA candy, and even LC stuff -- but not to the point of being very
uncomforable, just enough to realize that I overdid it. And it's always
very deliberate, not some out-of-control frenzy, though I do feel out of
control because I know I'm overeating my calorie target and eating stuff
that really ain't on the plan.


Yeah, for me it is more nerves. Nervous eating and I just keep going and
going. Before I know it I am stuffed. I have gone out to eat a large
combination Mexican meal, with two orders of chips and salsa to boot and a 6
pack of beer or so and then proceed to the grocery to eat a pint of Haagan
Dazs. That is a problem. I must say, I sometimes still do that. I don't
know why. I think it starts with beer, but not always, sometimes I just
can't stop eating.

Curt


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Old May 21st, 2004, 06:44 PM
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 07:27:39 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
wrote:

The real question is how does one identify "binge" eating.


Binge eating is when you continue eating way past the point of feeling
full. It's like you're driven to keep eating. As a binge-prone person,
I've had occasions where I was actually in tears because my stomach hurt,
yet all I wanted to do was eat more. If this isn't a disorder, I don't
know what is.

Carol

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"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or
oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

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Old May 21st, 2004, 06:48 PM
Damsel in dis Dress
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:33:32 GMT, "curt" wrote:

Well for me it is eating out of control in a sitting. I am not talking
about just overeating, I am talking about stuffing myself fast and furious
to the point of being very uncomfortable. Like a frenzy. Okay, so we have
all done it now and again, but the problem is, if you keep it up and it
becomes common. That is my definition, although some people may view it
differently.

I know I have thought about throwing up after these episodes, but I hate to
throw up. I just hate that...thank goodness.


I understand completely, Curt. There have been many times when I wished I
had an at-home stomach pump. It's a dreadful feeling, and I'm guessing
that binge-eating has contributed to a lot of people becoming bulemic. I
refuse to go that route, though. I have enough problems already.

Carol

--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or
oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_
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Old May 21st, 2004, 07:34 PM
Roger Zoul
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
:: On Fri, 21 May 2004 07:27:39 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
:: wrote:
::
::: The real question is how does one identify "binge" eating.
::
:: Binge eating is when you continue eating way past the point of
:: feeling full. It's like you're driven to keep eating. As a
:: binge-prone person, I've had occasions where I was actually in tears
:: because my stomach hurt, yet all I wanted to do was eat more. If
:: this isn't a disorder, I don't know what is.

Yeah, that sounds like it ought to be a disorder for sure.


 




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