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Apology to Sunshyne
That was not drama, it was comedy. HTH
You DO have a sick sense of humor! But, for some odd reason, that comes as no surprise...... Actually, I must've missed the part of the posts that Damsel found offensive. Or I just didn't find them offensive myself. I thought people were trying to be helpful, even if it was done bluntly. I guess after reading your posts, JC, I'm getting thick-skinned and used to bluntness! You've done me a favor, afterall. I can disregard the tone and consider the message now. I know that'll come in handy when teaching (dealing with parents, some students, and administrators) Michelle |
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Apology to Sunshyne
"Shawn & Michelle" wrote in message
news:rilBc.20224$ey.12044@fed1read06... That was not drama, it was comedy. HTH You DO have a sick sense of humor! But, for some odd reason, that comes as no surprise...... Actually, I must've missed the part of the posts that Damsel found offensive. Or I just didn't find them offensive myself. I thought people were trying to be helpful, even if it was done bluntly. I guess after reading your posts, JC, I'm getting thick-skinned and used to bluntness! You've done me a favor, afterall. I can disregard the tone and consider the message now. I know that'll come in handy when teaching (dealing with parents, some students, and administrators) Michelle Glad to be of service. |
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Apology to Sunshyne
yes, i'm sure it did feel difficult!
i responded to your post as a "generic" warning to those who believe that they KNOW what depression is, and really don't know the difference between "situational depression"(i'm fat, i'm lonely, nobody loves me etc) and the REAL THING! if running and socializing were the answer for all of us depressives, marathons would be larger! -- rosie http://costofwar.com/ "Luna" wrote in message ... : In article , : "rosie read and post" wrote: : : I was diagnosed with depression a few years back, and my : : doctor wanted to put me on drugs, and I tried them but I had a bad : : reaction. Maybe some people think I should have tried a different : drug, : : but I realized that I was depressed for a damn good reason, so I : got off my : : butt and got a job and made friends and got a life, and lo and : behold I : : wasn't depressed anymore. : : : : : : you are SO LUCKY to have been able to treat your depression that : easily................and YES, i said easily. : : : : It didn't feel easy at the time. I'd been unemployed for two years, it was : scary to get back out there. It was scary to start socializing again too, : the first 10 times or so I made it less than an hour before I had to go : back home. : : -- : Michelle Levin : http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick : : I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. |
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Apology to Sunshyne
: Excellent post Michelle. Happy pills and shoulders to cry on can only take a : person so far. The answer to a person's problems are within themselves. : tom, bite me! |
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Apology to Sunshyne
In article ,
"rosie read and post" wrote: yes, i'm sure it did feel difficult! i responded to your post as a "generic" warning to those who believe that they KNOW what depression is, and really don't know the difference between "situational depression"(i'm fat, i'm lonely, nobody loves me etc) and the REAL THING! if running and socializing were the answer for all of us depressives, marathons would be larger! -- rosie http://costofwar.com/ And how do you know when it's "the real thing" and not "situational?" It could be that I got a chemical imbalance in my brain out of nowhere, just one of those mysterious brain things, that made me depressed to the point where I didn't have the energy to get a job. Or, it could be that I got frustrated with looking for work and gave up and got lazy, which changed my brain chemistry and made me depressed. Even when depression is due to something chemical in the brain, you can change your own brain chemistry without drugs. Depression can be different for everyone who gets it, it can be caused by different things and it can be cured by different things. I take a bit of offense to your post that the way mine was cured was the "easy way." Personally I think it would have been a lot easier to take a happy pill than to actually do the work to make my life into something to be happy about. Now, I do believe that there are some cases of mental and emotional illness that are so bad they need serious treatment. I also think modern society is a bit hypchondriacal about mental illness and there are people who expect to be happy all the time and confuse a case of the blues with serious depression. Let's face it though, our whole society (American) is mentally screwed up. We're fed this happiness lie, this idea that happiness should be the ultimate goal in life, and then when we're not happy we think there must be something medically wrong with us. What's wrong is that we have too much free time to microscopically examine our psyches to find out if we're happy. Epedmic mental illness is a luxury for societies that have enough leisure time to not have to worry about things like where the next meal is coming from. We are problem solving animals, and when the important problems are solved for us, we make up more problems. -- Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. |
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Apology to Sunshyne
Hello,
On 20-Jun-2004, "Tom" wrote: "so I got off my butt and got a job and made friends and got a life, and lo and behold I wasn't depressed anymore." "It didn't feel easy at the time" Michelle Levin --------------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent post Michelle. Happy pills and shoulders to cry on can only take a person so far. The answer to a person's problems are within themselves. Snip I fervently hope that the folks in this thread who haven't ever been clinically depressed and seem to view it as a self induced and/or self curable problem never have to live it. There doesn't have to *be* a problem for depression to get you. My life was great when it hit me, and it still drained the pleasure from everything. You can't fix a problem that doesn't exist, but you can attempt to cure or manage a medical condition that does. Carmen |
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Apology to Sunshyne
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Apology to Sunshyne
your referral to antidepressants as "happy pills" says it all.
people die everyday due to untreated depression! they don't seek treatment, because they are embarrassed, or shamed, or convinced that they are "lazy" etc. if what you have is a depression that can be cured by exercise, you are lucky! -- rosie http://costofwar.com/ "Luna" wrote in message ... : In article , : "rosie read and post" wrote: : : yes, i'm sure it did feel difficult! : i responded to your post as a "generic" warning to those who believe : that they KNOW what depression is, and really don't know the : difference between "situational depression"(i'm fat, i'm lonely, : nobody loves me etc) and the REAL THING! : : if running and socializing were the answer for all of us : depressives, marathons would be larger! : : : -- : rosie : http://costofwar.com/ : : : : : : And how do you know when it's "the real thing" and not "situational?" It : could be that I got a chemical imbalance in my brain out of nowhere, just : one of those mysterious brain things, that made me depressed to the point : where I didn't have the energy to get a job. Or, it could be that I got : frustrated with looking for work and gave up and got lazy, which changed my : brain chemistry and made me depressed. Even when depression is due to : something chemical in the brain, you can change your own brain chemistry : without drugs. Depression can be different for everyone who gets it, it : can be caused by different things and it can be cured by different things. : I take a bit of offense to your post that the way mine was cured was the : "easy way." Personally I think it would have been a lot easier to take a : happy pill than to actually do the work to make my life into something to : be happy about. : : Now, I do believe that there are some cases of mental and emotional illness : that are so bad they need serious treatment. I also think modern society : is a bit hypchondriacal about mental illness and there are people who : expect to be happy all the time and confuse a case of the blues with : serious depression. Let's face it though, our whole society (American) is : mentally screwed up. We're fed this happiness lie, this idea that : happiness should be the ultimate goal in life, and then when we're not : happy we think there must be something medically wrong with us. What's : wrong is that we have too much free time to microscopically examine our : psyches to find out if we're happy. Epedmic mental illness is a luxury for : societies that have enough leisure time to not have to worry about things : like where the next meal is coming from. We are problem solving animals, : and when the important problems are solved for us, we make up more : problems. : : -- : Michelle Levin : http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick : : I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. |
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Apology to Sunshyne
thanks carmen....................
-- rosie http://costofwar.com/ "Carmen" wrote in message ... : Hello, : On 20-Jun-2004, "Tom" wrote: : : "so I got off my butt and got a job and made friends and got a : life, and lo : and behold I : wasn't depressed anymore." : : "It didn't feel easy at the time" : Michelle Levin : ------------------------------------------------------------------ --- : Excellent post Michelle. Happy pills and shoulders to cry on can : only take a person so far. The answer to a person's problems are : within : themselves. : Snip : : I fervently hope that the folks in this thread who haven't ever been : clinically depressed and seem to view it as a self induced and/or self : curable problem never have to live it. There doesn't have to *be* a : problem for depression to get you. My life was great when it hit me, : and it still drained the pleasure from everything. You can't fix a : problem that doesn't exist, but you can attempt to cure or manage a : medical condition that does. : : Carmen |
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Apology to Sunshyne
I believe My depression is caused by many things. The way I grew up. Most of my
family members suffer from mental illness, or a disorder. Even bipolar, schizo, and tourettes. I have a sister that is institutionalized. I had a Uncle that comitted suicide, right in my childhood home. So, I know all about it firsthand. My mother had built up anger, that ended up in these crazy rages. My dad was schizo in his last years of life. I have battled depression all my life. Never really put a name to it though. Until a couple years ago. I just thought it was the way life is. Sorta like being brainwashed. I knew no other way to live. Its like the depression I have, could be from hereditary. Could be neuro, from the different disorders I have.. Like Fibro, back and neck issues. Could be the way I was raised, like I mentioned. There are all types of depression. Different treatments that for one, may not work for another. I find medications do not work for me. Therapy does. I think someone mentioned cognitive behavior therapy? That helped a little. Just adding my 2 cents worth. |
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