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Old May 1st, 2004, 07:07 PM
Walter Bushell
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Default Minnesota seeks ban on junk food

In article ,
Ignoramus17184 wrote:

In article , Roger Zoul wrote:
Bad policy....government has done enough (too much) in terms of telling
people what to eat....


Yes, and no. Personally, I have not decided if I like this policy or
not, but I would not want my tax dollars spent by food stamps
recipients to buy junk food. Junk food is very expensive. That's just
one consideration, and there are other valid considerations.

i


Like eating junk food makes it easier to remain in poverty? Sugar I
consider to be alcohol lite. I remember eating corn muffins and passing
out. The same after drinking a 6 pack of coca colas. Sugar and
especially corn syrup should be considered as drugs, _In My Arrogant
Opinion_.
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Old May 1st, 2004, 07:37 PM
Crafting Mom
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Walter Bushell wrote:

Like eating junk food makes it easier to remain in poverty? Sugar I
consider to be alcohol lite.


Only difference is, it's far cheaper than beer to get your "fix"
When I had BTDT with little to no money, I had a huge sack of flour, eggs, a
big bag of sugar, and oatmeal, and I made lots of oatmeal cookies. Heck,
if you can't go buying junkfood, you can at least make your own A
little bit of money spent made a LOT of whole wheat bread, cookies,
biscuits, pancakes, pita breads, popcorn, rice, etc etc...

What the poor look for the most is shelf longevity vs a cheap cost.

I remember eating corn muffins and passing
out. The same after drinking a 6 pack of coca colas. Sugar and
especially corn syrup should be considered as drugs, _In My Arrogant
Opinion_.


IIRC (and I am too lazy to look it up) at one point, refined white sugar was
considered contraband and only the wealthy could get it.

I should do some research on the history of sugar.
CM
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Old May 2nd, 2004, 03:04 AM
Supergoof
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Default Minnesota seeks ban on junk food

Ignoramus17184 wrote:
Roger Zoul wrote:
Bad policy....government has done enough (too much) in terms of

telling
people what to eat....


Yes, and no. Personally, I have not decided if I like this policy or
not, but I would not want my tax dollars spent by food stamps
recipients to buy junk food. Junk food is very expensive. That's just
one consideration, and there are other valid considerations.


Actually we could live on fish & chips and pizza for a fraction of what it
costs us to buy meat and vegetables each week.

But yes, potato chips and soda are fairly expensive if you get them
regularly. Over here I think there are restrictions on what people can buy
in that position - I have a feeling cigarettes and most magazines are out,
and presumably alcohol, but I don't think there's much else in the way of
limitations - but there should be.

If people genuinely need government assistance to feed their families, that
assistance should be used as wisely as possible - on real, healthy food that
hopefully isn't going to see the same recipients end up needing more
assistance in the form of healthcare down the track.


Rachel
(New Zealand)



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Old May 2nd, 2004, 05:51 AM
Venger
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Default Minnesota seeks ban on junk food


"Supergoof" wrote in message
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Ignoramus17184 wrote:
Roger Zoul wrote:
Bad policy....government has done enough (too much) in terms of

telling
people what to eat....

Yes, and no. Personally, I have not decided if I like this policy or
not, but I would not want my tax dollars spent by food stamps
recipients to buy junk food. Junk food is very expensive. That's just
one consideration, and there are other valid considerations.


Actually we could live on fish & chips and pizza for a fraction of what it
costs us to buy meat and vegetables each week.


Which is why the poor are often disproportionately fat. They can afford
processed starches, bread, pasta, etc. and simple starches, corn, rice,
potatoes - all can be had very cheaply. Meat is expensive. Hence, fat city.

Venger


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Old May 2nd, 2004, 01:31 PM
Roger Zoul
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Venger wrote:
:: "Supergoof" wrote in message
:: ...
:::: Ignoramus17184 wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: Bad policy....government has done enough (too much) in terms of
:::::: telling people what to eat....
:::::
::::: Yes, and no. Personally, I have not decided if I like this policy
::::: or not, but I would not want my tax dollars spent by food stamps
::::: recipients to buy junk food. Junk food is very expensive. That's
::::: just one consideration, and there are other valid considerations.
:::
::: Actually we could live on fish & chips and pizza for a fraction of
::: what it costs us to buy meat and vegetables each week.
::
:: Which is why the poor are often disproportionately fat. They can
:: afford processed starches, bread, pasta, etc. and simple starches,
:: corn, rice, potatoes - all can be had very cheaply. Meat is
:: expensive. Hence, fat city.

And this is historyically true. That's why a ban on junk food is
nonsense...


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Old May 2nd, 2004, 01:36 PM
Roger Zoul
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Default Minnesota seeks ban on junk food

Supergoof wrote:
::: Ignoramus17184 wrote:
:::: Roger Zoul wrote:
::::: Bad policy....government has done enough (too much) in terms of
::::: telling people what to eat....
::::
:::: Yes, and no. Personally, I have not decided if I like this policy
:::: or not, but I would not want my tax dollars spent by food stamps
:::: recipients to buy junk food. Junk food is very expensive. That's
:::: just one consideration, and there are other valid considerations.
::
:: Actually we could live on fish & chips and pizza for a fraction of
:: what it costs us to buy meat and vegetables each week.
::
:: But yes, potato chips and soda are fairly expensive if you get them
:: regularly. Over here I think there are restrictions on what people
:: can buy in that position - I have a feeling cigarettes and most
:: magazines are out, and presumably alcohol, but I don't think there's
:: much else in the way of limitations - but there should be.
::
:: If people genuinely need government assistance to feed their
:: families, that assistance should be used as wisely as possible - on
:: real, healthy food that hopefully isn't going to see the same
:: recipients end up needing more assistance in the form of healthcare
:: down the track.

So why should assistance be used any more wisely than the funds that people
earn and spend on themselves?

And what is real, healthy food?

Are you saying that there are some foods that people can eat as much of as
they wish and remain healthy? Are there no other factors that come to bear
on remaining healthy?

If someone needs food assistance, do you really think it likely that they
won't need healthcare also?



 




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