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Old October 7th, 2003, 06:16 PM
rosie read and post
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how long were you obese?
how old are you?
what is your daily schedule like?

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read and post daily, it works!
rosie

i like your christ, I do not like your christians, your christians
are so unlike your christ.
..............................................gand hi




"Ignoramus20526" wrote in message
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After returning from obesity to normal weight (223/177/180) due to a
eat no crap/eat less/exercise more approach, I am now thinking about
health in general. What I would like to know is, what are the things
that a person can do to maximize their life expectancy/enjoyment of
life via various natural means (no meds). I want to be clear that I
want the maximum life expectancy multiplied by enjoyment of life. So
any regimen that makes me live longer but makes me miserable is not
something that I would like to consider.

I will appreciate references to some non-kooky books that do not
advocate spending money on programs affiliated with their authors.

I am not interested in having an "extreme body", squatting 500 lbs,
etc etc. However I am interested in being fit, agile, strong, and
flexible.

My current thinking is that the cornerstone of such an approach is
doing lots of low intensity aerobic exercise such as walking, plus
calisthenics based strength training. Another cornerstone is staying
within the normal weight interval. The third cornerstone is eating
only natural and healthy food, according to some definition. To me it
means eating no heavily processed foods and no sugar. The fourth is to
have a stable life and to not work too much.

I am aware that there is some scant evidence that living on calorie
restricted diet (1500 or so calories per day all the time) also can
help one live longer. But smoehow I have a feeling that such a life is
either impossible or not satisfying to me. Right now I eat about
1900-2000 calories per day, walk 100 minutes per day, and my weight is
relatively stable for the last 3 weeks. I can live on that but not on
much less, I think.

Does anyone have any comments or book suggestions?

i



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Old October 7th, 2003, 06:54 PM
Roger Zoul
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Ignoramus20526 wrote:
:: In article , rosie read
:: and post wrote:
::: how long were you obese?
::
:: obese, for about a year.
::
:: overweight, for all my adult life.
::
::: how old are you?
::
:: 32
::
::: what is your daily schedule like?
::
:: 5:15 wake up, 6:05 leave home, 6:51 train leaves station, 4:30 train
:: arrives back, 5:10 I arrive home, 5:30 I start playing with my son/do
:: household stuff, 9 pm I start putting him to bed, 9:50 free time,
:: 10:20 I am in bed.

So where is that 100 minutes of walking hidden?


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Old October 8th, 2003, 01:44 AM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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rosie read and post wrote:

how long were you obese?
how old are you?
what is your daily schedule like?

--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

i like your christ, I do not like your christians, your christians
are so unlike your christ.
.............................................gandh i


Ghandhi's dead.

Christ lives.

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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/


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Old October 8th, 2003, 07:20 PM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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DRS wrote:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
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rosie read and post wrote:


[...]

i like your christ, I do not like your christians, your christians
are so unlike your christ.
.............................................gandh i


Ghandhi's dead.

Christ lives.


Prove it.


Why should I?

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/


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Old October 8th, 2003, 08:50 PM
John M. Williams
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"OmegaZero2003" wrote:
"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:.
DRS wrote:
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
DRS wrote:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
rosie read and post wrote:

[...]

i like your christ, I do not like your christians, your

christians
are so unlike your christ.
.............................................gandh i

Ghandhi's dead.

Christ lives.

Prove it.

Why should I?

Because you claimed it to be so. Put up or shut up.


It is not my claim but the Word of God. If He choses to prove it to

you,
He will.


He is not a He ; it is consciousness without an object or subject.


Well, according to the reference which Chung cites, God IS The
Word. And The Word has been around since the beginning.

But that invites the question, "What is The Word?"

Chung would probably say that The Word is the reference from
which he cites. However, that reference, particularly that part
which describes God as The Word and The Word being
around in the beginning, was written a few centuries after the
death of Jesus of Nazareth. And Jesus lived, even according
to The Word, at least a couple of millennia after The Beginning.
And the exact parameters of The Word weren't determined
until the Council of Rome, about 350 years after Jesus died,
and even then, The Word didn't become immutable until the
Council of Trent, less than 500 years ago.

So how is it that The Word been around since The Beginning,
in a form that is "expressed in apt words and with infallible
truth"? (Pope Leo XIII, 1893) The circularity of that
reasoning is almost staggering.

Of course, none if this precludes a belief in God; it just
makes it nearly impossible to believe in the infallible
accuracy of The Book, which seems to be the standard
definition for The Word.


 




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