Starting over

Hi All....

I'll give you the readers digest version of me, since I have so much work to
get done.

I'm 35 years old, 8 years ago, I was 288 pounds. I lost 91 pounds at my
peak about 2 years ago. I've gone from WW to Body for Life, to a strict
body building routine. I burnt myself out at the gym because I have one of
those bodies that builds muscle (love that part), but in turn, likes to hang
onto the fat. ugh. I couldn't get weight dropped. My body was looking
better, but I couldn't seem to get under 200 and stay there.

Then, a year ago, I divorced my ex husband *spit* and used it as an excuse
to eat what I wanted because I was depressed.

I've been treated for depression, and things seem to be better. I have an
incredible boyfriend, and it looks like we may be together forever I
want to look better for him definitely, but also, I feel like crap. It's so
hard when you remember how it felt before but the mojo is gone and you can't
seem to get going.

So this morning, I got up, rolled into the living room, and hadn't had
breakfast yet. Something in my head told me to drag out my old WW stuff (I
rejoined a year.5 ago).

So, planned breakfast of bagel w/peanut butter got nixed. I forgot how many
points PB was and the bagel was borderline at best! *sob* I love peanut
butter. Hmm.. I have an idea, I will lock the PB in the gun cabinet LOL.
If I find myself dragging out a key, then that'll be a good trigger (pun
intended).

So anyway, have good feelings about it. I have a gym membership, but I"m
going to just try to eat right for a few weeks, lose some weight (this
worked for me before) then start back up to the gym when I feel a bit better
about myself.

Goals:
Lose 111 pounds total. (gw: 140)
Concentrate only on the next 5 pounds (worked before)
Give up diet coke *sobs* *sniffle*


Current: 251
Loss to date: 0
Goal: 140
pounds to lose: 111

I get to reply to myself first.
My name is Lana, the Ren is a nickname.

"Ren" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hi All....

I'll give you the readers digest version of me, since I have so much work
to get done.

I'm 35 years old, 8 years ago, I was 288 pounds. I lost 91 pounds at my
peak about 2 years ago. I've gone from WW to Body for Life, to a strict
body building routine. I burnt myself out at the gym because I have one
of those bodies that builds muscle (love that part), but in turn, likes to
hang onto the fat. ugh. I couldn't get weight dropped. My body was
looking better, but I couldn't seem to get under 200 and stay there.

Then, a year ago, I divorced my ex husband *spit* and used it as an excuse
to eat what I wanted because I was depressed.

I've been treated for depression, and things seem to be better. I have an
incredible boyfriend, and it looks like we may be together forever I
want to look better for him definitely, but also, I feel like crap. It's
so hard when you remember how it felt before but the mojo is gone and you
can't seem to get going.

So this morning, I got up, rolled into the living room, and hadn't had
breakfast yet. Something in my head told me to drag out my old WW stuff
(I rejoined a year.5 ago).

So, planned breakfast of bagel w/peanut butter got nixed. I forgot how
many points PB was and the bagel was borderline at best! *sob* I love
peanut butter. Hmm.. I have an idea, I will lock the PB in the gun
cabinet LOL. If I find myself dragging out a key, then that'll be a good
trigger (pun intended).

So anyway, have good feelings about it. I have a gym membership, but I"m
going to just try to eat right for a few weeks, lose some weight (this
worked for me before) then start back up to the gym when I feel a bit
better about myself.

Goals:
Lose 111 pounds total. (gw: 140)
Concentrate only on the next 5 pounds (worked before)
Give up diet coke *sobs* *sniffle*


Current: 251
Loss to date: 0
Goal: 140
pounds to lose: 111

Ren wrote:

Hi All....

Hi!

Goals:
Lose 111 pounds total. (gw: 140)

Good luck.

Concentrate only on the next 5 pounds (worked before)

Mini-goals. Good good. I go in 10lb increments, but then I've got way
more weight to lose than you.

Give up diet coke *sobs* *sniffle*

Why? You can have all the diet coke you want, and still be in the WW
plan. God, if I had to give up my diet sodas in favor of all water, I'd
die. But then I can't drink more than half a liter of water a day
without getting bad acid reflux. Nothing wrong with diet sodas, tho.

Current: 251

403.8, myself. Another mini-goal: 399.0.

Loss to date: 0

11.6 for me!

Goal: 140

170. I'll feel the urge to wimp out at 175, because that's so close in
comparison to where I am now, but I'll make some kind of deal with
myself when I get there to get all the way. Besides, 170 is 5lbs hotter
than 175!

pounds to lose: 111

245.4, total, but only 233.8 left. Go me.

Tay

Hi Tay....

Give up diet coke *sobs* *sniffle*

Why? You can have all the diet coke you want, and still be in the WW
plan. God, if I had to give up my diet sodas in favor of all water, I'd
die. But then I can't drink more than half a liter of water a day without
getting bad acid reflux. Nothing wrong with diet sodas, tho.

I'm trying to give it up for many reasons..
1. costs me around $1-2/day I could use on something way more useful.. like
hot men, or cold liquor.
2. it actually isn't all that healthy for you, it robs your bones of
calcium, contributing to osteoporosis
3. It's been causing me some terrible heartburn, plus stomach pains. I'm
drinking more than I've ever drank in my life.
4. they contain Aspartame and some research indicates that high consumption
of Aspartame may cause cancer in the long run
5. when I drink too much diet coke, I don't drink enough water and I get UTI
more easily. I hadn't had any in a few years, until I woke up at 5:30 a.m.
the other morning, and ended up laying in bed doing breathing excercises
through the pain! OW.

BUT IT TASTES SO YUMMY! lol.


Current: 251

403.8, myself. Another mini-goal: 399.0.

Loss to date: 0

11.6 for me!

Good for you! You're 11.6 ahead of me! GRR lol

Goal: 140

170. I'll feel the urge to wimp out at 175, because that's so close in
comparison to where I am now, but I'll make some kind of deal with myself
when I get there to get all the way. Besides, 170 is 5lbs hotter than
175!

I bet you won't wimp out. I've BTDT with this weight loss stuff, and the
closer you get to the goal, the more you forget where you were. Don't ask
me how I know. All it takes is about 50 reunited pounds to remind you why
you were doing it in the first place.


245.4, total, but only 233.8 left. Go me.

My sister lost 275 pounds, so it's doable. I swear!

Lana

Lana wrote:

Hi Tay....


Give up diet coke *sobs* *sniffle*

Why? You can have all the diet coke you want, and still be in the WW
plan. God, if I had to give up my diet sodas in favor of all water, I'd
die. But then I can't drink more than half a liter of water a day without
getting bad acid reflux. Nothing wrong with diet sodas, tho.


I'm trying to give it up for many reasons..
1. costs me around $1-2/day I could use on something way more useful.. like
hot men, or cold liquor.

I fully support hot men.

2. it actually isn't all that healthy for you, it robs your bones of
calcium, contributing to osteoporosis

Well, I suppose, but that's what calcium supplements are for. They make
them like candy!

3. It's been causing me some terrible heartburn, plus stomach pains. I'm
drinking more than I've ever drank in my life.

Yeow. Sympathy.

4. they contain Aspartame and some research indicates that high consumption
of Aspartame may cause cancer in the long run

Did they ever come to a conclusion on that one? That's been bandied
about since I was a little kid, but I don't know that they've found
anything conclusive either way.

5. when I drink too much diet coke, I don't drink enough water and I get UTI
more easily. I hadn't had any in a few years, until I woke up at 5:30 a.m.
the other morning, and ended up laying in bed doing breathing excercises
through the pain! OW.

Yeow. Again. Good reason.

BUT IT TASTES SO YUMMY! lol.

Well, maybe you can have one or two now and then. Totally depriving
yourself will just make you miserable, is all, and there's no point to that.

My sister lost 275 pounds, so it's doable. I swear!

Yeah, that was my biggest worry, that WW wouldn't be able to get off
that much weight. I figured by now, I'd have to go for surgery to get
rid of it. How long did it take her, and did she have any freaky loose
skin problems after? That's another worry of mine :P

Tay

Did they ever come to a conclusion on that one? That's been bandied
about since I was a little kid, but I don't know that they've found
anything conclusive either way.

For every study, someone can come up with another study to refute it. I
doubt we'll ever know for *sure*. But I figure, putting that many chemicals
in my body certainly can't do it any *good*

Well, maybe you can have one or two now and then. Totally depriving
yourself will just make you miserable, is all, and there's no point to
that.

That's where I was a few years back. I'd have maybe one a week if we ate
out, just because I liked the taste, but slowly over time the fridge filled
with coke again. I'm going to ease off slowly cuz I turn into a "not nice
person" when I dont' have my coke LOL

My sister lost 275 pounds, so it's doable. I swear!

Yeah, that was my biggest worry, that WW wouldn't be able to get off that
much weight. I figured by now, I'd have to go for surgery to get rid of
it. How long did it take her, and did she have any freaky loose skin
problems after? That's another worry of mine :P

OK, what's worse, some loose skin, or Umm.. dying?

yeah, she has loose skin problems, BUT, you may be able to get some of it
reduced through your insurance company. Right now she's trying to get back
on coverage (she had a lovely divorce too). Loose skin can cause sores
which is a *medical* problem. That'll get you a tummy tuck and a boob lift,
but you probably won't get coverage on arms/thighs.

If you want to help tone yourself, you should try to lift some weights as
soon as you feel you can get to that point of exercising. The fuller
muscles will fill out the skin, and it will tighten up "somewhat". (weight
lifting can't fix everything, but it'll make you feel so much better).
Also, I'd try hydrating the skin with plenty of water (drink) and cocoa
butter.

Welcome aboard and good luck. I would keep the diet coke on the "for special
occasions list" instead of cutting it out 100%. I only have one about once a
week these days. I like crystal lite as an alternative to water. H20 gets
boring after a while. Diet soda also is good when the vending machine at
work is calling my name. The sweetness of the soda help me through cravings.

"Ren" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hi All....

I'll give you the readers digest version of me, since I have so much work
to get done.

I'm 35 years old, 8 years ago, I was 288 pounds. I lost 91 pounds at my
peak about 2 years ago. I've gone from WW to Body for Life, to a strict
body building routine. I burnt myself out at the gym because I have one
of those bodies that builds muscle (love that part), but in turn, likes to
hang onto the fat. ugh. I couldn't get weight dropped. My body was
looking better, but I couldn't seem to get under 200 and stay there.

Then, a year ago, I divorced my ex husband *spit* and used it as an excuse
to eat what I wanted because I was depressed.

I've been treated for depression, and things seem to be better. I have an
incredible boyfriend, and it looks like we may be together forever I
want to look better for him definitely, but also, I feel like crap. It's
so hard when you remember how it felt before but the mojo is gone and you
can't seem to get going.

So this morning, I got up, rolled into the living room, and hadn't had
breakfast yet. Something in my head told me to drag out my old WW stuff
(I rejoined a year.5 ago).

So, planned breakfast of bagel w/peanut butter got nixed. I forgot how
many points PB was and the bagel was borderline at best! *sob* I love
peanut butter. Hmm.. I have an idea, I will lock the PB in the gun
cabinet LOL. If I find myself dragging out a key, then that'll be a good
trigger (pun intended).

So anyway, have good feelings about it. I have a gym membership, but I"m
going to just try to eat right for a few weeks, lose some weight (this
worked for me before) then start back up to the gym when I feel a bit
better about myself.

Goals:
Lose 111 pounds total. (gw: 140)
Concentrate only on the next 5 pounds (worked before)
Give up diet coke *sobs* *sniffle*


Current: 251
Loss to date: 0
Goal: 140
pounds to lose: 111

Lana wrote:
OK, what's worse, some loose skin, or Umm.. dying?

*shrug* if I die, I die. I'm not losing weight to be healthy, I'm
losing weight because of all the things I can't do right now. Like fit
behind the steering wheel of our car. And so I can fit in hot clothes.
Mmm, leather micro-skirts.

yeah, she has loose skin problems, BUT, you may be able to get some of it
reduced through your insurance company. Right now she's trying to get back
on coverage (she had a lovely divorce too). Loose skin can cause sores
which is a *medical* problem. That'll get you a tummy tuck and a boob lift,
but you probably won't get coverage on arms/thighs.

The insurance we had was through my husband's job. They dropped me when
I was diagnosed as obese, and now it's considered a pre-existing
condition for any *other* companies. I've already got recurring dermal
yeast infections under my boobs, but no insurance agency will handle me
right now because I've been diagnosed as obese. It's too much risk for
them. Once I get to goal, I dunno; enough time will have passed I think
it'll lapse out of the pre-existing condition field, but I still
would've had loose skin before I got the new insurance, so.. I dunno.
We'll have to see. At the very least I'll need a boob lift: they're
already saggy. But I've asked insurance companies, and they keep
telling me they won't cover it: even with the recurring infections, it's
cosmetic, not medical. Yeast infections aren't life-threatening.

If you want to help tone yourself, you should try to lift some weights as
soon as you feel you can get to that point of exercising. The fuller
muscles will fill out the skin, and it will tighten up "somewhat". (weight
lifting can't fix everything, but it'll make you feel so much better).
Also, I'd try hydrating the skin with plenty of water (drink) and cocoa
butter.

Yeah, I plan on getting to the gym when I can (probly around 250), and
I've got vitamin E lotion (couldn't find any cocoa butter). Water I get
when I can, altho usually my fluid intake is other forms (diet soda,
crystal light), except when I use water as an ingredient in food. Like
I said, direct water leads to acid reflux, and that's no good for
anybody. But again, that's hopefully something that will clear up once
I get my weight down, and then I can do more.

Course, loose skin also has to do with age, too. Hopefully if I can get
all this gone by the time I'm 30, I won't have as much problem (they
keep telling me 30 is the cutoff), but I'm nearly 28 now, so that'll be
pushing it. It's another reason for my impatience, tho :P

Tay

Welcome to the group Lana. You've lost the weight before so you know you
can do it. You're already onto a good thing with the exercise - keep it up!
Here's our welcome notice to get you started in the group.

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advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links
that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that
later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

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Here's a short synopsis of the USA Flexpoints program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you
lose weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will
need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints
system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are
allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any
activity points you earn on a particular day. When your weight drops to
175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once
again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5
servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points.
Points do not carry over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly
flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use
daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them
for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based
when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the day they are earned.


Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

And here's an explanation of Core/No-count by Laura -

It is a great plan. You DO however need to make sure that you are eating at
your normal Flex plan target number of points. This can be difficult for
some and you WILL stop losing.

Here is the summary of the plan: http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/summary.htm
Here is the detail list of foods:
http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/wwcoreplan.htm

Basic rules:
1. Eat as much of the core foods as you need to feel "satisfied" (not full).
2. If you want to eat foods that are not on the core foods list use you 35
weekly points allowance (WPA).
Note: use these points on healthy foods and not junk.
3. Activity points are used to supplement the 35 WPA for Non-core food items
only. They must be used on the day they are earned.
Note: most people find that they will increase the amount of core foods
because they are hungrier due to exercising.
4. 2 teaspoons of heathy oil daily is required.

~Laura

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ,
Europe), the Points plans are different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate
points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe
calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator
above can handle all of these programs.

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"Ren" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hi All....

I'll give you the readers digest version of me, since I have so much work
to get done.

I'm 35 years old, 8 years ago, I was 288 pounds. I lost 91 pounds at my
peak about 2 years ago. I've gone from WW to Body for Life, to a strict
body building routine. I burnt myself out at the gym because I have one
of those bodies that builds muscle (love that part), but in turn, likes to
hang onto the fat. ugh. I couldn't get weight dropped. My body was
looking better, but I couldn't seem to get under 200 and stay there.

Then, a year ago, I divorced my ex husband *spit* and used it as an excuse
to eat what I wanted because I was depressed.

I've been treated for depression, and things seem to be better. I have an
incredible boyfriend, and it looks like we may be together forever I
want to look better for him definitely, but also, I feel like crap. It's
so hard when you remember how it felt before but the mojo is gone and you
can't seem to get going.

So this morning, I got up, rolled into the living room, and hadn't had
breakfast yet. Something in my head told me to drag out my old WW stuff
(I rejoined a year.5 ago).

So, planned breakfast of bagel w/peanut butter got nixed. I forgot how
many points PB was and the bagel was borderline at best! *sob* I love
peanut butter. Hmm.. I have an idea, I will lock the PB in the gun
cabinet LOL. If I find myself dragging out a key, then that'll be a good
trigger (pun intended).

So anyway, have good feelings about it. I have a gym membership, but I"m
going to just try to eat right for a few weeks, lose some weight (this
worked for me before) then start back up to the gym when I feel a bit
better about myself.

Goals:
Lose 111 pounds total. (gw: 140)
Concentrate only on the next 5 pounds (worked before)
Give up diet coke *sobs* *sniffle*


Current: 251
Loss to date: 0
Goal: 140
pounds to lose: 111

"Tayra" wrote in message
...
Lana wrote:
OK, what's worse, some loose skin, or Umm.. dying?

*shrug* if I die, I die. I'm not losing weight to be healthy, I'm losing
weight because of all the things I can't do right now. Like fit behind
the steering wheel of our car. And so I can fit in hot clothes. Mmm,
leather micro-skirts.

yeah, she has loose skin problems, BUT, you may be able to get some of it
reduced through your insurance company. Right now she's trying to get
back on coverage (she had a lovely divorce too). Loose skin can cause
sores which is a *medical* problem. That'll get you a tummy tuck and a
boob lift, but you probably won't get coverage on arms/thighs.

The insurance we had was through my husband's job. They dropped me when I
was diagnosed as obese, and now it's considered a pre-existing condition
for any *other* companies. I've already got recurring dermal yeast
infections under my boobs, but no insurance agency will handle me right
now because I've been diagnosed as obese. It's too much risk for them.
Once I get to goal, I dunno; enough time will have passed I think it'll
lapse out of the pre-existing condition field, but I still would've had
loose skin before I got the new insurance, so.. I dunno. We'll have to
see. At the very least I'll need a boob lift: they're already saggy. But
I've asked insurance companies, and they keep telling me they won't cover
it: even with the recurring infections, it's cosmetic, not medical. Yeast
infections aren't life-threatening.

If you want to help tone yourself, you should try to lift some weights as
soon as you feel you can get to that point of exercising. The fuller
muscles will fill out the skin, and it will tighten up "somewhat".
(weight lifting can't fix everything, but it'll make you feel so much
better). Also, I'd try hydrating the skin with plenty of water (drink)
and cocoa butter.

Yeah, I plan on getting to the gym when I can (probly around 250), and
I've got vitamin E lotion (couldn't find any cocoa butter). Water I get
when I can, altho usually my fluid intake is other forms (diet soda,
crystal light), except when I use water as an ingredient in food. Like I
said, direct water leads to acid reflux, and that's no good for anybody.
But again, that's hopefully something that will clear up once I get my
weight down, and then I can do more.

Course, loose skin also has to do with age, too. Hopefully if I can get
all this gone by the time I'm 30, I won't have as much problem (they keep
telling me 30 is the cutoff), but I'm nearly 28 now, so that'll be pushing
it. It's another reason for my impatience, tho :P

many people also report that if they lose the weight slowly, combined with
the extra water, toning exercises and lotion on the skin that they have
limited saggy skin. Not everyone ends up with saggy skin.

It is interesting that you have acid reflux with direct water yet can drink
crystal light and diet soda. I get acid reflux when I have too much soda
because of the gas. Also, my occurance of the acid reflux and general
heartburn has almost disappeared since losing the weight. I only get it now
if I over eat. Its a good insentive to keep my portions under control.