NYNY Week 3 Laura (LJ)

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:09:44 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

I've also started to increase protein a bit (20 - 25%+).

What changes have you made in order to increase your protein without
increasing your points?

Tricky. I don't really do points.
Hopefully squash is less points than potato? It's certainly less
calories.
I've also ditched the breakfast bars in favour of higher protein bars.
They seem more satisfying than the high carb variety. The problem is
not increasing points, but avoiding the inevitable fat that goes with
protein. Ideally I'd like to substitute fat for protein.
I also try to eat more lean meat and fish and chicken/turkey

Ray
--
rmnsuk
overall - 273/201/182

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:57:01 GMT, "Laura" wrote:


"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:04:48 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

What are your typical breakfasts? I don't like eggs all the time so I
need
some other ideas.

When I don't have time to fix my egg, toast, and yogurt breakfast, I
eat cereals containing protein. One of my favorites is Nature's Path
Optimum Slim; one cup contains 9g of protein. 3 pts before milk.
http://www.naturespath.com/products/...ails.asp?id=37 If I
reduce my serving to 3/4 cup, add 1/2 cup of Fiber One, and use one
cup of nonfat milk, I use only 4 points.

Peanut butter on toast with yogurt is a nice fast breakfast too that's
higher in protein.

I usually have time to make breakfast. Today I had 2 egg (substitues) with
1/4 cup of shredded cheese. I skipped the toast because we got up late and
with the time change it was already 9:45am. I like the idea of the PB on
toast with yogart too. I could even go with Cottege cheese. I'll have to
work out the points so that I keep it around 4-5pts.

For the constipation, you may want to cut out the cheese from your diet for a bit
- it is notorious for blocking things up ... might not be helping you. Rice is
also a known *stopper* (as well as chocolate). grin I'm going back into the
memory banks here, but remember when the kids had loose stools we were told to
feed them bananas, applesauce, rice and toast (brat diet) until the stools firmed
up. So I assume those items are also going to add to a constipation problem if
one already exists.



Yes, I am making slow and steady progress but I expected it to pick up a
bit
when I started Curves. Instead my daily fluctuations have been the
greatest.
Before I joined Curves, if I ate out for dinner I knew to expect the
scale
to be up the next morning. These days it will go up even if I have been
OP
the day before. Some of this may be due to the constipation that I have
been
suffering with since I joined Curves. I don't know if it is related but
the
timing is the same. Both the weight fluctuations and the constipation
started shortly after I started Curves. Something is wacky with my
system.
That is for sure.

Making sure I drink 64-90 oz of water on days that I exercise helps
moderate the fluctuations somewhat. Staying hydrated definitely helps
with constipation.

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to Curves plus at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz each day. In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I am baffled as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing that has put me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they have a sugar free
version.

There's another thing to be careful about ... too much metamucil. It is a good
bulk laxative, but if I recall correctly it does state on the package that overuse
can cause your system to totally rely on it. My husband was told by his doctor to
use it one time a day (due to cholesterol problems) ... after a bit he found he
was having problems. He cut down the frequency (now takes it maybe twice a week)
and has no constipation problems at all. It took about a week for his system to
get back to a normal daily routine.

Joyce


"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
From the beginning I've tried to follow a "higher protein" plan,
mostly because when I eat too many carbs, my body wants even more and
then I have a hard time controlling hunger. For me, eating protein at
breakfast is the key. And then, for the rest of the day I just eat
"normally": sandwich and salad at lunch, baked or sweet potato or
brown rice with dinner. I also limit myself to one fruit per day
rather than the recommended two for the same reasons.

I find it all too easy to stray from what I know works best for me
towards low-calorie snack treats. But my body seems to do better when
I snack on peanut butter on high fiber toast than it does on popcorn.

Good luck. Remember your overall progress shows weight loss so you are
doing well, despite the fluctuations. (Easy for me to say, right?)

Prairie Roots

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:31:14 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

When you started exercising, did you
increase the amount of protein you were eating?

whatever you don't give up, I went for over 12 weeks and lost a whopping 4
pounds, I hung in there and now am losing fine again, I finally determined
that I had been that weight for a long time and my body wanted to stay there
on the way down as it had on the way up, good luck, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
Laura wrote:

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to Curves
plus at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz each day.
In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I am
baffled
as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing that has
put
me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they have a
sugar
free
version.

When things get bad enough for me, I drink a Yogi Tea called "Get
Regular." It's an herbal tea, not bad tasting at all (i.e. not
medicinal), unsweetened so I can add Splenda if I choose, and very
gentle. I'll drink a cup of that in the evening instead of my usual
herbal, bedtime tea. Usually in the morning, my problem is solved. I can
buy Yogi Tea in my regular grocery stores, though I sometimes have to
look in the health food section.

Thanks for the tea tip. I'll see if I can find it here in town. It's
probably a lot gentlier on the system than metamucil.

Good luck sorting things out, Laura. You're certainly practicing due
diligence and dogged perseverance. With all the footwork you're putting
in, you WILL see the results on the scale.

I certainly hope it pays off. I'm stuck at 220 right now or have been for
the past 3 days. This is 1 pound up from my Thursday WI. At this point I
am
really baffled as to what is going on with my body and getting very
frustrated with this. Maybe I need to find the money to be able to go back
to the meetings for extra support and help. I'm on the verge of quitting!

That may be part of it too. I remember being at 220 3 years ago before I
lost my job and put on another 25 pounds. Before that I was at 170 for a
long time. I could deal with stalling at 170 at this point. It's the getting
to onederland that is driving me nuts.

I went to the store a little while ago. Bought pre-cooked chicken breasts
(2), Jennie-O turkey in gravy plus frozen veggies. I have put together meat
and green veggies in containers for lunch this week to take to work instead
of sandwiches. Plenty of protein this week. Maybe that will help.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
whatever you don't give up, I went for over 12 weeks and lost a whopping 4
pounds, I hung in there and now am losing fine again, I finally determined
that I had been that weight for a long time and my body wanted to stay
there
on the way down as it had on the way up, good luck, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
Laura wrote:

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to Curves
plus at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz each day.
In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I am
baffled
as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing that has
put
me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they have a
sugar
free
version.

When things get bad enough for me, I drink a Yogi Tea called "Get
Regular." It's an herbal tea, not bad tasting at all (i.e. not
medicinal), unsweetened so I can add Splenda if I choose, and very
gentle. I'll drink a cup of that in the evening instead of my usual
herbal, bedtime tea. Usually in the morning, my problem is solved. I
can
buy Yogi Tea in my regular grocery stores, though I sometimes have to
look in the health food section.

Thanks for the tea tip. I'll see if I can find it here in town. It's
probably a lot gentlier on the system than metamucil.

Good luck sorting things out, Laura. You're certainly practicing due
diligence and dogged perseverance. With all the footwork you're
putting
in, you WILL see the results on the scale.

I certainly hope it pays off. I'm stuck at 220 right now or have been
for
the past 3 days. This is 1 pound up from my Thursday WI. At this point I
am
really baffled as to what is going on with my body and getting very
frustrated with this. Maybe I need to find the money to be able to go
back
to the meetings for extra support and help. I'm on the verge of
quitting!

that sounds good, I love turkey, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
That may be part of it too. I remember being at 220 3 years ago before I
lost my job and put on another 25 pounds. Before that I was at 170 for a
long time. I could deal with stalling at 170 at this point. It's the
getting
to onederland that is driving me nuts.

I went to the store a little while ago. Bought pre-cooked chicken breasts
(2), Jennie-O turkey in gravy plus frozen veggies. I have put together
meat
and green veggies in containers for lunch this week to take to work
instead
of sandwiches. Plenty of protein this week. Maybe that will help.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
whatever you don't give up, I went for over 12 weeks and lost a whopping
4
pounds, I hung in there and now am losing fine again, I finally
determined
that I had been that weight for a long time and my body wanted to stay
there
on the way down as it had on the way up, good luck, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
Laura wrote:

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to
Curves
plus at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz each
day.
In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I am
baffled
as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing that
has
put
me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they have a
sugar
free
version.

When things get bad enough for me, I drink a Yogi Tea called "Get
Regular." It's an herbal tea, not bad tasting at all (i.e. not
medicinal), unsweetened so I can add Splenda if I choose, and very
gentle. I'll drink a cup of that in the evening instead of my usual
herbal, bedtime tea. Usually in the morning, my problem is solved. I
can
buy Yogi Tea in my regular grocery stores, though I sometimes have
to
look in the health food section.

Thanks for the tea tip. I'll see if I can find it here in town. It's
probably a lot gentlier on the system than metamucil.

Good luck sorting things out, Laura. You're certainly practicing due
diligence and dogged perseverance. With all the footwork you're
putting
in, you WILL see the results on the scale.

I certainly hope it pays off. I'm stuck at 220 right now or have been
for
the past 3 days. This is 1 pound up from my Thursday WI. At this point
I
am
really baffled as to what is going on with my body and getting very
frustrated with this. Maybe I need to find the money to be able to go
back
to the meetings for extra support and help. I'm on the verge of
quitting!

Jenny-O makes a bunch of turkey based products: Turkey & gravy, Shredded
Turkey BBQ, whole turkey pieces too (I think). All low in points too.
Pre-cooked microwavable food items.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
that sounds good, I love turkey, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
That may be part of it too. I remember being at 220 3 years ago before I
lost my job and put on another 25 pounds. Before that I was at 170 for a
long time. I could deal with stalling at 170 at this point. It's the
getting
to onederland that is driving me nuts.

I went to the store a little while ago. Bought pre-cooked chicken
breasts
(2), Jennie-O turkey in gravy plus frozen veggies. I have put together
meat
and green veggies in containers for lunch this week to take to work
instead
of sandwiches. Plenty of protein this week. Maybe that will help.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
whatever you don't give up, I went for over 12 weeks and lost a
whopping
4
pounds, I hung in there and now am losing fine again, I finally
determined
that I had been that weight for a long time and my body wanted to stay
there
on the way down as it had on the way up, good luck, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
Laura wrote:

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to
Curves
plus at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz each
day.
In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I am
baffled
as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing that
has
put
me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they have
a
sugar
free
version.

When things get bad enough for me, I drink a Yogi Tea called "Get
Regular." It's an herbal tea, not bad tasting at all (i.e. not
medicinal), unsweetened so I can add Splenda if I choose, and very
gentle. I'll drink a cup of that in the evening instead of my
usual
herbal, bedtime tea. Usually in the morning, my problem is solved.
I
can
buy Yogi Tea in my regular grocery stores, though I sometimes have
to
look in the health food section.

Thanks for the tea tip. I'll see if I can find it here in town. It's
probably a lot gentlier on the system than metamucil.

Good luck sorting things out, Laura. You're certainly practicing
due
diligence and dogged perseverance. With all the footwork you're
putting
in, you WILL see the results on the scale.

I certainly hope it pays off. I'm stuck at 220 right now or have
been
for
the past 3 days. This is 1 pound up from my Thursday WI. At this
point
I
am
really baffled as to what is going on with my body and getting very
frustrated with this. Maybe I need to find the money to be able to
go
back
to the meetings for extra support and help. I'm on the verge of
quitting!

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:57:01 GMT, "Laura" wrote:


"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:04:48 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

What are your typical breakfasts? I don't like eggs all the time so I
need
some other ideas.

When I don't have time to fix my egg, toast, and yogurt breakfast, I
eat cereals containing protein. One of my favorites is Nature's Path
Optimum Slim; one cup contains 9g of protein. 3 pts before milk.
http://www.naturespath.com/products/...ails.asp?id=37 If I
reduce my serving to 3/4 cup, add 1/2 cup of Fiber One, and use one
cup of nonfat milk, I use only 4 points.

Peanut butter on toast with yogurt is a nice fast breakfast too that's
higher in protein.

I usually have time to make breakfast. Today I had 2 egg (substitues)
with
1/4 cup of shredded cheese. I skipped the toast because we got up late
and
with the time change it was already 9:45am. I like the idea of the PB on
toast with yogart too. I could even go with Cottege cheese. I'll have to
work out the points so that I keep it around 4-5pts.

For the constipation, you may want to cut out the cheese from your diet
for a bit
- it is notorious for blocking things up ... might not be helping you.
Rice is
also a known *stopper* (as well as chocolate). grin I'm going back into
the
memory banks here, but remember when the kids had loose stools we were
told to
feed them bananas, applesauce, rice and toast (brat diet) until the stools
firmed
up. So I assume those items are also going to add to a constipation
problem if
one already exists.

Cheese is not the problem here as I rarely eat cheese. These were egg
substitutes so I needed to add some flavor and points to the meal. Ditto
with the chocolate. these are 2 foods that I rarely have. Ditto with
bananas. I only have rice once or twice a week (if that). I don't think it
is diet related which is why I am baffled as to what is causing it.

Yes, I am making slow and steady progress but I expected it to pick up
a
bit
when I started Curves. Instead my daily fluctuations have been the
greatest.
Before I joined Curves, if I ate out for dinner I knew to expect the
scale
to be up the next morning. These days it will go up even if I have
been
OP
the day before. Some of this may be due to the constipation that I
have
been
suffering with since I joined Curves. I don't know if it is related
but
the
timing is the same. Both the weight fluctuations and the constipation
started shortly after I started Curves. Something is wacky with my
system.
That is for sure.

Making sure I drink 64-90 oz of water on days that I exercise helps
moderate the fluctuations somewhat. Staying hydrated definitely helps
with constipation.

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to Curves plus
at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz each day. In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I am baffled
as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing that has put
me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they have a sugar
free
version.

There's another thing to be careful about ... too much metamucil. It is a
good
bulk laxative, but if I recall correctly it does state on the package that
overuse
can cause your system to totally rely on it. My husband was told by his
doctor to
use it one time a day (due to cholesterol problems) ... after a bit he
found he
was having problems. He cut down the frequency (now takes it maybe twice
a week)
and has no constipation problems at all. It took about a week for his
system to
get back to a normal daily routine.

I'll remember that. I am trying to only use it twice a day. Some days I only
remember to take it once.

Laura wrote:

I certainly hope it pays off. I'm stuck at 220 right now or have been for
the past 3 days. This is 1 pound up from my Thursday WI. At this point I am
really baffled as to what is going on with my body and getting very
frustrated with this. Maybe I need to find the money to be able to go back
to the meetings for extra support and help. I'm on the verge of quitting!

I do understand the impulse to quit. Stalling is so very frustrating and
unnerving, not to mention exasperating and tiring and demoralizing.

Despite how it seems right now, you aren't failing. I hope you don't quit.

Of course, the choice to continue or quit is yours and yours alone to
make. But maybe you should take a break from looking at your weight for
a couple of weeks and focus only on staying OP and feeling good about
the positive things you are doing for yourself. I guess what I'm saying
is that if the scale is what's making you doubt your progress and lose
your confidence and motivation, then ignore the scale and pay attention
to NSVs and other results. How do you feel when you exercise and stay
OP? How are your measurements? How do your clothes fit? Are you able to
buy one new thing in a smaller size?
--
Prairie Roots
232/178.8/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

mmmm,\lee
Laura wrote in message
...
Jenny-O makes a bunch of turkey based products: Turkey & gravy, Shredded
Turkey BBQ, whole turkey pieces too (I think). All low in points too.
Pre-cooked microwavable food items.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
that sounds good, I love turkey, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
That may be part of it too. I remember being at 220 3 years ago before
I
lost my job and put on another 25 pounds. Before that I was at 170 for
a
long time. I could deal with stalling at 170 at this point. It's the
getting
to onederland that is driving me nuts.

I went to the store a little while ago. Bought pre-cooked chicken
breasts
(2), Jennie-O turkey in gravy plus frozen veggies. I have put together
meat
and green veggies in containers for lunch this week to take to work
instead
of sandwiches. Plenty of protein this week. Maybe that will help.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
whatever you don't give up, I went for over 12 weeks and lost a
whopping
4
pounds, I hung in there and now am losing fine again, I finally
determined
that I had been that weight for a long time and my body wanted to
stay
there
on the way down as it had on the way up, good luck, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
Laura wrote:

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to
Curves
plus at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz
each
day.
In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I
am
baffled
as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing
that
has
put
me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they
have
a
sugar
free
version.

When things get bad enough for me, I drink a Yogi Tea called
"Get
Regular." It's an herbal tea, not bad tasting at all (i.e. not
medicinal), unsweetened so I can add Splenda if I choose, and
very
gentle. I'll drink a cup of that in the evening instead of my
usual
herbal, bedtime tea. Usually in the morning, my problem is
solved.
I
can
buy Yogi Tea in my regular grocery stores, though I sometimes
have
to
look in the health food section.

Thanks for the tea tip. I'll see if I can find it here in town.
It's
probably a lot gentlier on the system than metamucil.

Good luck sorting things out, Laura. You're certainly practicing
due
diligence and dogged perseverance. With all the footwork you're
putting
in, you WILL see the results on the scale.

I certainly hope it pays off. I'm stuck at 220 right now or have
been
for
the past 3 days. This is 1 pound up from my Thursday WI. At this
point
I
am
really baffled as to what is going on with my body and getting
very
frustrated with this. Maybe I need to find the money to be able to
go
back
to the meetings for extra support and help. I'm on the verge of
quitting!

I was wondering if your body was using more of what you are eating so you
are producing less waste? Lee
Laura wrote in message
...

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:57:01 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:04:48 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

What are your typical breakfasts? I don't like eggs all the time so
I
need
some other ideas.

When I don't have time to fix my egg, toast, and yogurt breakfast, I
eat cereals containing protein. One of my favorites is Nature's Path
Optimum Slim; one cup contains 9g of protein. 3 pts before milk.
http://www.naturespath.com/products/...ails.asp?id=37 If I
reduce my serving to 3/4 cup, add 1/2 cup of Fiber One, and use one
cup of nonfat milk, I use only 4 points.

Peanut butter on toast with yogurt is a nice fast breakfast too
that's
higher in protein.

I usually have time to make breakfast. Today I had 2 egg (substitues)
with
1/4 cup of shredded cheese. I skipped the toast because we got up late
and
with the time change it was already 9:45am. I like the idea of the PB
on
toast with yogart too. I could even go with Cottege cheese. I'll have
to
work out the points so that I keep it around 4-5pts.

For the constipation, you may want to cut out the cheese from your diet
for a bit
- it is notorious for blocking things up ... might not be helping you.
Rice is
also a known *stopper* (as well as chocolate). grin I'm going back
into
the
memory banks here, but remember when the kids had loose stools we were
told to
feed them bananas, applesauce, rice and toast (brat diet) until the
stools
firmed
up. So I assume those items are also going to add to a constipation
problem if
one already exists.

Cheese is not the problem here as I rarely eat cheese. These were egg
substitutes so I needed to add some flavor and points to the meal. Ditto
with the chocolate. these are 2 foods that I rarely have. Ditto with
bananas. I only have rice once or twice a week (if that). I don't think it
is diet related which is why I am baffled as to what is causing it.

Yes, I am making slow and steady progress but I expected it to pick
up
a
bit
when I started Curves. Instead my daily fluctuations have been the
greatest.
Before I joined Curves, if I ate out for dinner I knew to expect the
scale
to be up the next morning. These days it will go up even if I have
been
OP
the day before. Some of this may be due to the constipation that I
have
been
suffering with since I joined Curves. I don't know if it is related
but
the
timing is the same. Both the weight fluctuations and the
constipation
started shortly after I started Curves. Something is wacky with my
system.
That is for sure.

Making sure I drink 64-90 oz of water on days that I exercise helps
moderate the fluctuations somewhat. Staying hydrated definitely helps
with constipation.

I'm drinking at least 3 24oz bottles of water before going to Curves
plus
at
least 2-3 more before bed. That's a total of 120 to 144 oz each day. In
addition to drinking enough water, I eat plenty of fiber so I am
baffled
as
to what is causing the constipation. So far the only thing that has put
me
back on track is Metamucil 2-3 times a day. Thank god they have a sugar
free
version.

There's another thing to be careful about ... too much metamucil. It is
a
good
bulk laxative, but if I recall correctly it does state on the package
that
overuse
can cause your system to totally rely on it. My husband was told by his
doctor to
use it one time a day (due to cholesterol problems) ... after a bit he
found he
was having problems. He cut down the frequency (now takes it maybe
twice
a week)
and has no constipation problems at all. It took about a week for his
system to
get back to a normal daily routine.

I'll remember that. I am trying to only use it twice a day. Some days I
only
remember to take it once.