Obesity and breast cancer

According to new research from the american cancer society, breast
cancer increases with the more weight a woman puts on during adulthood.
Researchers say this is the first study to link weight gain with an
increased risk for all types of breast cancer, even if the woman is not
taking hormone replacement therapy after menopause. The research shows
extremely obese women are up to three times more likely to develop
cancer that spreads, than women with less weight gain. Check out the
video about this research:
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According to new research from the american cancer society, breast
cancer increases with the more weight a woman puts on during
adulthood. Researchers say this is the first study to link weight gain
with an increased risk for all types of breast cancer, even if the
woman is not taking hormone replacement therapy after menopause. The
research shows extremely obese women are up to three times more likely
to develop cancer that spreads, than women with less weight gain.
Check out the video about this research:
http://www.groundhog.tv/apps/editor/...=1148415946404
.wmv"img src="




Are you dieting or just sending folks to your site for income/other
purposes.

I don't see you participating other than your .tv URLs.

The fact that you have a yahoo.com email address is so lame.

Please explain!

Andy

wrote:

According to new research from the american cancer society, breast
cancer increases with the more weight a woman puts on during adulthood.

Gasp! Are you trying to say that being obese is bad for my health?

Ever hear of estrogen? Being fatter is associated with having higher
estrogen levels. (I'm not sure whether fat actually makes the estrogen
or just stores it.) Many (but not all) breast cancers respond to
estrogen. I'd expect estrogen-responding cancers to respond where
there's more estrogen.

So this is hardly shocking news.

Dally

On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:07:54 -0400, Dally wrote:
wrote:

According to new research from the american cancer society, breast
cancer increases with the more weight a woman puts on during adulthood.

Conversely, hstory of anorexia in youth is assotiated with lower risk
of breast cancer.

Gasp! Are you trying to say that being obese is bad for my health?

Ever hear of estrogen? Being fatter is associated with having higher
estrogen levels. (I'm not sure whether fat actually makes the estrogen
or just stores it.) Many (but not all) breast cancers respond to
estrogen. I'd expect estrogen-responding cancers to respond where
there's more estrogen.

So this is hardly shocking news.

It is hardly shocking, but very instructive.

i

Ignoramus8797 wrote:

On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:07:54 -0400, Dally wrote:

Ever hear of estrogen? Being fatter is associated with having higher
estrogen levels. (I'm not sure whether fat actually makes the estrogen
or just stores it.) Many (but not all) breast cancers respond to
estrogen. I'd expect estrogen-responding cancers to respond where
there's more estrogen.

So this is hardly shocking news.


It is hardly shocking, but very instructive.

How on earth is it instructive? You understand that estrogen has many
positive uses, right? For example, it provides a lot of protection
against heart disease.

Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or
estrogen-sensitive breast cancer?

This is not instructive. It's just a meaningless factoid.

Dally

On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:01:39 -0400, Dally wrote:
Ignoramus8797 wrote:

On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:07:54 -0400, Dally wrote:

Ever hear of estrogen? Being fatter is associated with having higher
estrogen levels. (I'm not sure whether fat actually makes the estrogen
or just stores it.) Many (but not all) breast cancers respond to
estrogen. I'd expect estrogen-responding cancers to respond where
there's more estrogen.

So this is hardly shocking news.


It is hardly shocking, but very instructive.

How on earth is it instructive? You understand that estrogen has many
positive uses, right? For example, it provides a lot of protection
against heart disease.

And so does calorie restriction.

Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or
estrogen-sensitive breast cancer?

This is not instructive. It's just a meaningless factoid.

Not at all meaningless, if you realize that calorie restriction
reduces risk of heart disease as well as cancer.

i

Dally wrote:
Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or
estrogen-sensitive breast cancer?

Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and
funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink
ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the
leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are
startling:

- 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times
as many women as breast cancer
- Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and
kills 32% of them.
- 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by
cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year.
- More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive
only:
33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries
28% of inplantable defibrillators and
36% of open-heart surgeries

http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp



joanne

On 25 May 2006 09:10:00 -0700, joanne wrote:

Dally wrote:
Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or
estrogen-sensitive breast cancer?

Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and
funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink
ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the
leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are
startling:

- 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times
as many women as breast cancer
- Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and
kills 32% of them.
- 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by
cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year.
- More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive
only:
33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries
28% of inplantable defibrillators and
36% of open-heart surgeries

http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp

I am confused.

Are women not receiving treatments that they need, due to, say,
discrimination or worse health coverage than men have, or are they
receiving fewer of these treatments because they are not warranted in
their individual situations?

If it is the former, it would be interesting to see some
substantiation. It would be strange to see hospitals and doctors to
decline revenue from these expensive procedures if they can be
performed and billed for, just because their recipient is a woman.

If it is the latter (these procedures are less often warranted), then
I am not sure what is the point of mentioning these numbers at all.

Again, Dally's argument about how eating less could cause heart
disease through lowered estrogen, is still invalid since eating less
reduces chances of heart disease as well.

i

"Ignoramus5457" wrote in message
. ..
On 25 May 2006 09:10:00 -0700, joanne wrote:

Dally wrote:
Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or
estrogen-sensitive breast cancer?

Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and
funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink
ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the
leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are
startling:

- 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times
as many women as breast cancer
- Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and
kills 32% of them.
- 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by
cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year.
- More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive
only:
33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries
28% of inplantable defibrillators and
36% of open-heart surgeries

http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp

I am confused.

Are women not receiving treatments that they need, due to, say,
discrimination or worse health coverage than men have, or are they
receiving fewer of these treatments because they are not warranted in
their individual situations?

Women having heart attacks tend to present differently than men. Most
treatments, including drugs are tested on men and then assumed to work as
well for women.

Again, Dally's argument about how eating less could cause heart
disease through lowered estrogen, is still invalid since eating less
reduces chances of heart disease as well.

She did not argue that eating less causes heart disease. She said that
estrogen is heart-protecting and there is a relationship between body fat
and estrogen.

--
the volleyballchick

Ignoramus5457 wrote:
On 25 May 2006 09:10:00 -0700, joanne wrote:
Dally wrote:
Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or
estrogen-sensitive breast cancer?
Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and
funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink
ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the
leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are
startling:

- 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times
as many women as breast cancer
- Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and
kills 32% of them.
- 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by
cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year.
- More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive
only:
33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries
28% of inplantable defibrillators and
36% of open-heart surgeries

http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp

I am confused.

Are women not receiving treatments that they need, due to, say,
discrimination or worse health coverage than men have, or are they
receiving fewer of these treatments because they are not warranted in
their individual situations?

Research money has not be allocated to women's diseases until recently
-- not in the same way as "men's" issues.


--
jmk in NC