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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery. I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery, but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's 3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that. Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg. So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10 years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with a stomach that small? I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the long-term effects of the surgery. Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies have been done about the surgery? Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to have any surgery) -- Amberle3 249/225/220-minigoal/150? Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03 Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
I did not see the show, but I have lost that much weight, if you count the
total. And I wonder why, since the people cannot eat After the surgery, at least not the way they used to, that they don't go ahead and eat less? I know this is oversimplification, but dang. "Amberle3" wrote in message ... Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery. I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery, but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's 3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that. Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg. So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10 years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with a stomach that small? I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the long-term effects of the surgery. Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies have been done about the surgery? Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to have any surgery) -- Amberle3 249/225/220-minigoal/150? Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03 Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
I think the big difference between your weight loss and hers is the time it
took to lose it. You did it gradually while changing your eating habits as well as your attitude towards food. The women on the TV show had no choice but to eat less or get sick because her stomach was so small. She had no time to adjust her eating habits. The surgery forced her to eat less but not necessarily correctly to keep the weight off. I agree with Amberle3 that a stomach that small can not support enough nutrients to be healthy in the long run. I think our way is so much better. "Lesanne" wrote in message ink.net... I did not see the show, but I have lost that much weight, if you count the total. And I wonder why, since the people cannot eat After the surgery, at least not the way they used to, that they don't go ahead and eat less? I know this is oversimplification, but dang. "Amberle3" wrote in message ... Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery. I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery, but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's 3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that. Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg. So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10 years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with a stomach that small? I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the long-term effects of the surgery. Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies have been done about the surgery? Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to have any surgery) -- Amberle3 249/225/220-minigoal/150? Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03 Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
I don't agree with medical intervention unless there is a definite reason
for it. I couldn't do that as i'd be concerned about what was happening to my insides. Additionally, fast weight loss doesn't give the body time to catch up, there'd be a heap of baggy flesh there wouldn't there? |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:13:53 GMT, Amberle3
wrote: Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. This has nothing to do with your question, but thank you for reminding me. There is a doco on telly tonight that I want to watch, about 2 of NZ's fattest women. They both weigh close to 300 kilos, about 660 pounds. They're both working to get their weight down so it could be interesting to see how they're doing it, especially given that they can barely walk. They've got a long journey ahead of them. -- Erin in NZ 125/88.5/75 kgs 275.3/194.9/165 lbs NYNY goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos) "It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves" Sir Edmund Hilary |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
My former neighbor has had this surgery, she had it in February and has been
in and out of the hospital numerous times. My daughter is friends with her daughter and she has seen how Tami has shrunk, but all the restrictions as to how much and what she can eat. She has had to have a couple more surgeries for various reasons related to the gastric bypass. There was a lady that used to post here a couple of years ago (Carole) that had also had gastric bypass surgery and she had numerous problems and then I believe she had the procedure reversed, but still ended up having problems because of the surgery. She ended up going on the WW program and started to lose in a healthy way, but she still experienced many health problems, as a result of this gastric bypass surgery. I can not believe that doctors recommend this to people, it is too drastic and it mainly just forces you to eat smaller amounts but does not teach you good eating habits. You are basically forced into portion control, but who is to say you can not just eat 16 small meals a day and heavy fats, etc and still not lose the way you should. I also don't believe that you would be able to drink the recommended water with a stomach that is that small. I only see this as a solution for a person that has severe over eating problems. Such as sitting down to eat a large pizza and a couple of pitchers of beers in a single sitting. That is way too much food and if you can not control that kind of intake then you might have to take this drastic step, but for myself. That is not my problem and it is also not what caused me to gain weight. My weight was gained from poor food choices, not the amount of food I eat. Debbie "Amberle3" wrote in message ... Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery. I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery, but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's 3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that. Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg. So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10 years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with a stomach that small? I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the long-term effects of the surgery. Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies have been done about the surgery? Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to have any surgery) -- Amberle3 249/225/220-minigoal/150? Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03 Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
Years ago, I knew a woman who had a stomach stapling operation. (Not the
same as the current operation, but similar in that it leaves one with only the option of eating a very small amount of food at one time. ) She lost about 150 pounds very quickly. Not much more than a year later, she had gained it all back. (incredible, I know) I talked to her about this fact and she said that she was able to trick her stomach. She no longer could eat a lot at one time, so she just ate all day long...very small amounts, and ate the wrong kinds of things. Suffice to say, the operation taught her nothing about retraining her food patterns, only shifted them slightly sideways. So very sad...huh? Imagine going through that operation and ending up just as fat a couple of years later. Carol -- .................................................. ........... 318/248.6/169 69.4 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process. .................................................. ............. "Amberle3" wrote in message ... Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery. I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery, but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's 3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that. Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg. So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10 years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with a stomach that small? I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the long-term effects of the surgery. Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies have been done about the surgery? Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to have any surgery) -- Amberle3 249/225/220-minigoal/150? Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03 Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
I guess this is just one of those personal decisions we all have to make in our
lives. I have heard horror stories, but also have heard success stories. I have two personal friends who have had this surgery done ... one within the past year, one over 15 years ago. Both were huge successes, not one complication (thank heavens). My friend who had surgery 20 years ago has put some weight back on, but nowhere near what he started at - he is still in a very healthy range. He is able to eat more food than he was immediately after the surgery. I *think* the stomach may possibly stretch again, if you condition it to accept more food. The trick is pretty much the same that we all go through ... learn to eat smaller portions and healthier choices. By reduction of the size of the stomach, MAYBE this was a forced way for them to learn what they didn't seem able to on their own? I don't know, but I won't judge those that follow different paths than I choose. I also heard recently that Sharon Osbourne also underwent this surgery and successfully lost a tremendous amount of weight. I believe she said she could opt to have surgery again to have the procedure reduced ... if she wants to. Maybe this is also something that is considered at a later date? Why - I have no idea! Joyce On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:13:53 GMT, Amberle3 wrote: Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery. I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery, but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's 3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that. Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg. So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10 years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with a stomach that small? I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the long-term effects of the surgery. Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies have been done about the surgery? Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to have any surgery) |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
I wonder what happens to these people mentally. Whatever mental conditions
caused the obesity would still be there after the surgery. Like in the reverse, putting an anorexic on a feeding tube would not address the eating disorder itself. -- SuzyQ Weight 124 WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03 "Amberle3" wrote in message ... Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over 400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery. I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery, but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's 3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that. Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg. So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10 years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with a stomach that small? I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the long-term effects of the surgery. Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies have been done about the surgery? Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to have any surgery) -- Amberle3 249/225/220-minigoal/150? Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03 Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm |
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Oprah today (Monday October 20)
My so's ex had the surgery and did great from March to August, now she has
joined WW with me and has constant gains and losses. Also, it doesn't seem to have cut down that much on her eating which leads me to think that maybe it wasn't how much she eats but wrong food choices. I do know that in her house (and unfortunately when the kids are here) everything is fried and vegetables are nonexistent. I've tried to set a good example but 10 years of bad habits are hard to break. |
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