Article: Young, skinny ‹ and obsessed with diets

Ignoramus25707 wrote:

In article , JMA wrote:

You said that "one could find many other not so positive sides of anorexia"
and yet we're not supposed to infer that you think there *IS* a positive
side to having anorexia????


Do you want to get breast cancer? If not, surely you will appreciate
lowering its chances, all other things being equal.

Ig, now you are outright trolling. You can't seriously be submitting
anorexia as a viable choice based on a risk-benefit analysis where the
risk is breast cancer. You understand that the girl's chances of dying
from anorexia far, far, far outweigh her chances of getting breast cancer?

Breast cancer definitely kills. But heart disease kills a lot more.
And she's damaging her heart. Osteoporosis kills, too, indirectly, in
that most people who break a hip are dead within a year. Anorexia
weakens her bones. It's just not sane to suggest that anorexia is a
good idea if you don't want to get breast cancer.

The fact is, the main risk for getting breast cancer is unknown. There
are all sorts of things that raise the risk factor somewhat, but the
MAIN correlation is to some unknown thing.

I have no immediate relatives with breast cancer, I've nursed children
for a total of four years and I have a normal fat percentage.
Functionally speaking I've lowered my risk nearly not at all. I know
women just like me who are getting it all around me. It's like the new
phase in our lives... first were the years we were all marrying, then
the years we all had little babies, now we're into the "adventures in
medicine" years. Most of us survive these adventures, though. None of
us deserve them, it just goes with the territory when you own a human body.

Dally

"Ignoramus2772" wrote in message
...

Lest the more stupid members of this newsgroup jump at me for allegedly
"supporting anorexia", I want to point out that other methods of
reducing breast cancer incidence are superior to anorexia, for example
staying relatively slim, eating well and having a few children.

Stupid is as stupid does. You've posted things in the past that defend
anorexia as a way of life for some people, simply demonstrating your lack of
knowlege on the issue. I'm not the only one who's noticed it or called you
on it. You troll and then call me stupid? So now why do you get to call
names and yet *I'm* not? Hey, at least I have balls to say directly that
you, ignoramus, are almost intellectually honest in using that name (a
remark from mfw a long time ago), however I still think the m should be an n
because you are definitely an asshole too.

Oops, I guess I'm being uncivil.

Again, lay off the pipe.

"Dally" wrote in message
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GaryG wrote:


It's true that some BMI calculators indicate "Underweight" starting
around
BMI=18.5. But, most of those are for adults...teens tend to naturally
run
low BMI's. Her weight is in the 31st percentile, which is on the low
side,
but not abnormally low for her age and height.

It sounds like she may have an eating disorder, but based on her weight
alone, she may not yet be in a dangerous condition (physically, anyway).

Just as another example, I just called up to my 13 year old daughter and
asked her what she weighs. She replied "I have no idea." I told her to
go weigh herself on my scale. She came in at 95 pounds at 5'3". She's
in the 25th percentile, which makes perfect sense: she slender but not
boney. Furthermore, she's been between the 10th and 25th percentile for
weight at every well-child checkup since she was 2 months old. Pardon
me if I don't get hysterical about her being under 100 pounds.

Dally


Well, just being a low weight or underweight doesn't make a person anorexic.
The girl in the original article specifically said she only eats one piece
of fruit a day because she is afraid of getting fat. *That* is what
differentiates an anorexic from a healthy, slender individual.

"Ignoramus2772" wrote in message
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In article , JMA wrote:

"Ignoramus2772" wrote in message
...

Lest the more stupid members of this newsgroup jump at me for allegedly
"supporting anorexia", I want to point out that other methods of
reducing breast cancer incidence are superior to anorexia, for example
staying relatively slim, eating well and having a few children.

Stupid is as stupid does. You've posted things in the past that defend
anorexia as a way of life for some people, simply demonstrating your
lack of
knowlege on the issue. I'm not the only one who's noticed it or called
you
on it. You troll and then call me stupid? So now why do you get to
call
names and yet *I'm* not? Hey, at least I have balls to say directly
that
you, ignoramus, are almost intellectually honest in using that name (a
remark from mfw a long time ago), however I still think the m should be
an n
because you are definitely an asshole too.

Oops, I guess I'm being uncivil.

Yes, you are being uncivil, and not only you are being uncivil, but
you also did not add much of value in the post that I am responding
to. No references to anything worthwhile, no factual refutations
etc. Whereas I posted interesting references to actual information
regarding risks of breast cancer and anorexia etc, your post contained
nothing but namecalling.

i

Could you be any more full of yourself?
Your promotion of anorexia as a preventative for breast cancer is twisted
and sick, not interesting. However, as usual, you can't handle anyone
disagreeing with you or pointing out the problem with your premises and you
start talking down to people and whining about "unjustified" assertions.

You're the one that called me stupid, then the gloves came off. Deal with
it. Prior to that, all I did was point out exactly what you said and why I
disagreed with it. *YOU* became the troll. I didn't respond "thoughtfully"
to the remark about my wanting to possibly prevent breast cancer because I
honestly believed you had to be trolling, hence the comment about the crack.

I spent time with anorexics when I was in treatment for my bulimia. It's
nothing to joke about or even pretend that there might be some benefit to
the condition. If you really aren't kidding around here then you are even
more sick than I gave you credit for. This reminds me of the thread when
you were curious about forcibly starving a fat person. You really are a
piece of work. Go play with yourself for a while because you're just too
much of a freak for me to deal with at this point.

"jmk"

Oh, but she'd weigh less so I suppose that you would be supportive, right?
--
jmk in NC

No, because he wouldn't want to sleep with her then...

"MH"

I had that growing up. My mom would say "finish your plate" and then in
the
next sentence, "why do you eat so much, the boys will never like you if
you're too fat."

No wonder I developed an eating disorder.....

Martha

I think we grew up in the same home...

"Ignoramus2772" wrote in message
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Could you be any more full of yourself?
Your promotion of anorexia as a preventative for breast cancer is
twisted
and sick, not interesting. However, as usual, you can't handle anyone
disagreeing with you or pointing out the problem with your premises and
you
start talking down to people and whining about "unjustified" assertions.

There were some posters to this thread who disagreed with me, in a
respectful manner, added some reasoned opinions, and I attempted to
treat them respectfully as well. So, saying that I cannot handle
any disagreements just because I pointed out your namecalling, is not
based on reality.

I didn't even start the namecalling until you called me stupid. You always
try to hide behind that one so I went out of my way to make sure I didn't
call you names. Now that I went and called you names, you'll wave that
banner up and down for months in order to avoid the issue. It's your M.O.

TTFN freak

Jenn
might as well get my money's worth

"Ignoramus2772" wrote in message
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forgot to say, you called on me to get off crack and used other cheap
insults before I even posted a message mentioning "stupid"
individuals.

So, somehow saying that I treat you in a manner worse than you treat
me, is not supported by facts!

i

Right, I acknowledged that wisecrack - it wasn't namecalling. I seriously
thought you were joking because in no way would a sane individual insinuate
that a person should consider anorexia as a potential deterrent to breast
cancer. I guess I was wrong and you really are a sick individual.

"Ignoramus2772"
In case if you did not intend to use "crack smoking" as an insult, I
apologize for implying that you are stupid.

i

I think calling you a crack smoker is an insult to actual crack smokers.
Even they wouldn't stoop so low....

MH wrote:

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote:
JMA wrote:
"Ignoramus25707" wrote:

Do you want to get breast cancer? If not, surely you will appreciate
lowering its chances, all other things being equal.

Crack kills. You need to put down the pipe now.

hee!

it's true, ig. give it up. you have no argument here.

Isn't it fascinating how, in his desire to make every thread about him, he
will never stop, even when it makes him look like a complete ninny? : )

fascinating like a trainwreck is. the worst part of it is that his
ignorance seems to be willful.