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Old July 27th, 2006, 03:28 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Angie wrote:
:: "Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote
::: Watermelon isn't low carb.
::
::
:: Yes, I know, and while I am doing lowER carb, I'm not really
:: following Atkins or something. I checked and it is lower carb than
:: most fruits, besides berries. It is lower than apples, peers,
:: apricots, peaches, etc. and I wanted a little variety. After
:: tomorrow (3 days eating it) I won't have it anymore anyways.

It all depends on how much you eat. 1 cup has about 10 carbs & 48 calories.
Not bad if you don't eat too many carbs elsewhere.


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Old July 27th, 2006, 03:54 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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I read all the other replies before I posted this, and there is some good
advice in the other replies. I remember when I started low carb, I also got
back into walking and weightlifting. I actually gained weight during the
first week of induction, but I know now that it was water. I have a theory
about this, and it is only a theory, but I think some people when they start
exercising, experience their body storing water. It may be due to the
exercising, and the muscles wanting their share of the water. Especially
when exercising, your muscles need water. You won't build so much muscle in
2 weeks that you can actually "see" the difference in size, but you may feel
the muscles tightening things up, which could be due to them holding more
water than normal on a temporary basis.

If you are still feeling the "need" for sugar from the fruit, I would
suggest trying induction similar to what Atkins recommends in his book.
Basically 20g of carbs, mostly from leafy green veggies. A good starting
point for protein/fat/carb balance is 25/70/5 in percentages. The basic
reason for induction is to break the carb habit. The nice thing about it is
you normally see a nice amount of weight loss, mainly due to water from
glycogen storage.

You will more than likely need to adjust your percentages based on what
works for you. I recommend journaling your food intake daily on FitDay or
some similar method until you get a good feel for your proportions and
calorie intake. Yes calories still count on low carb. Enjoy the satisfying
hi fat low carb foods that will curb your appetite and also help get rid of
the desire for sugars and other carbs. A salad with bacon, hard boiled eggs,
and a little cheese with some real dressing will do a lot of good. Don't cut
the fat down. So many people eat too little fat on low carb, and it causes
them to eat too much protein, or fall off the wagon and eat too many carbs.
The basic theory behind low carb is to eat hi fat, satisfying foods. This
will cause you to eat less calories because the food seems more "filling" to
you.

As far as the exercise, anything is better than nothing, and too much can
also be bad, but I recommend reading up on heart rate and exercise. You will
find a target heart rate for you weight,age and gender. You want to maintain
the proper heart rate during your exercise time for maximum benefit. There
is a plethora of information on the net about this.

Chris

"Angie" wrote in message
...
Okay something bizarre is going on and I need input, bear with me this is
a
little long. I have been basically not eating sugar, bread and pastas as
I
feel best (energy wise) eating this way as carbs poop me out . I usually
just stuck to berries, but I am allowing myself some fruits like
watermelon
and cantalope. I am drinking 64 oz of water a day (I'm 100 pounds
overweight). I am exercising at the YMCA every other day doing the bike
for one mile and treadmill for two miles. On off days I use my EZ Glider
at
home and use some 5 pound weights and an exercise ball a little for squats
and with the weights.

I have not gotten on the scale in 2 weeks, and I have been eating and
exercising like this for two weeks. I actually feel fatter, especially in
my upper tummy where it it BIGGER and hard as a rock (usually a little
mooshy). I'm not doing any tummy exercises. What's going on that I feel
so
much fatter? Too much water? Not enough water? Wrong foods? I will
mention I am hypothryoid and even though on meds, I have a very hard time
taking any weight off. My energy level is good, and besides feeling
fatter
than ever, I feel good. I suppose I should weigh myself tomorrow morning
since it has been two weeks, and see if I have gained, somehow.

Anyways, here is what I ate today and I have been eating pretty similar
for
almost two weeks.

Today:
Breakfast - hard boiled egg and a cup of watermelon
Lunch - A few slices of turkey and a low carb yogurt
Afternoon snack - cup of strawberries
Dinner - 2 small walleye fillets and one cup of zucchini
Anything wrong with this?

Yesterday:
Breakfast - hard boiled egg, three sausage links
Lunch - 3 oz can of tuna in lettuce, 1/4 cup cottage cheese, 1/2 an
avocado
Snack - cup of watermelon
Dinner - homemade taco salad just on lettuce
Anything wrong with this?

Thanks for any input and suggestions.








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Old July 27th, 2006, 11:52 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Roger Zoul" wrote
I say drink enough water to pee clear, but no more. If you're peeing more
than 5 times a day, methinks you're a fish in training.



Everywhere I have read says basically the same thing:
"Eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day for the average person, but if you're
overweight, you should drink another eight ounces for every 25 pounds of
excess weight you carry." In my case that would put me at drinking 96
ounces of water a day! I do drink probably more around 72 ounces on the
average. By my third potty stop of the day, it is already clear. Maybe
that is why I am starting to form scales.






  #24  
Old July 28th, 2006, 12:05 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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wrote
Angie I made an earlier post about you exercising and how great it is
that you are treadmilling and biking!! I wish when I was losing weight
I started right away but I waiting till I lost weight because I was too
embassesed to walk into a gym at 218 lbs.


Well, I was 260 pounds when I joined the Y, actually as a Christmas present
from my dad. When I first joined last December I tried a low impact
exercise group using balls and weights and floor exercises. If I was 50
pounds lighter that class would have been so easy. However, I was so winded
so easily, and my knees and back killed. I felt so horrible in that class,
I was the biggest one there. And then to top it off my trainer moved me to
the front of the class because I had bad balance, and up front I could hold
onto the wall if I needed too. I hated being in front of everyone and
having to look at myself up close in the mirrored wall exercising. Needless
to say I dropped out of the class after going twice and gave up feeling
sorry for and embarrassed for myself. But looking in my closet at all the
clothes I could be wearing this summer finally motivated me to start some
exercise plan on my own, at my own pace. Even if I'm not losing right now,
I do have more energy with the exercise. I just have to figure out what
type of combination of eating and exercise is going to be the ticket for me.



  #25  
Old July 28th, 2006, 12:21 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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Angie wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote
::: I say drink enough water to pee clear, but no more. If you're
::: peeing more than 5 times a day, methinks you're a fish in training.
::
::
:: Everywhere I have read says basically the same thing:

That good reason to not believe it.

:: "Eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day for the average person, but if
:: you're overweight, you should drink another eight ounces for every
:: 25 pounds of excess weight you carry."

Find the research that backs this up.

In my case that would put
:: me at drinking 96 ounces of water a day! I do drink probably more
:: around 72 ounces on the average. By my third potty stop of the day,
:: it is already clear. Maybe that is why I am starting to form
:: scales.

Most likely.


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Old July 28th, 2006, 01:34 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Do a search for water and diet and just about every article says that, even
Atkins and even at my friend's Weight Watchers meeting. They say the more
fat, the more water needed to flush out fat as you lose weight, also the
more exercise the more water you need for your muscles. The way I see it,
as long as you are not retaining and you are letting out the water, what is
the harm in drinking it?



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Old July 28th, 2006, 01:47 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Actually, you can drink too much water according to some. Again, it is a
theory, but it makes sense. The claim is that too much water will deplete
the body of certain electrolytes such as potassium, and apparently there are
cases of people dying from drinking large quantities of water in short
periods of time. I think one I read was about a US Marine that died after
drinking a large quantity of water after he finished a long hike. If I
recall, the autopsy showed very low electrolyte amounts in his body. The
argument here is that perspiring also causes the electrolyte loss, so it
could have been a case of the combination of the two.

What I try to do personally is to sip on water most of the day instead of
drinking large quantities at one time. I feel better that way. I do not
measure how much water I drink in a day, but I know it is close to a gallon,
because I fill a one gallon jug and leave it in the fridge every day. At the
end of the day it is almost empty, or sometimes I even refill it an extra
time. I also drink water away from home, so that adds to my total. I don't
think a person needs to waterlog themselves, but you shouldn't be walking
around saying I'm thirsty all the time either. Again, you need to find your
comfort zone.

Chris

"Angie" wrote in message
...
Do a search for water and diet and just about every article says that,
even Atkins and even at my friend's Weight Watchers meeting. They say the
more fat, the more water needed to flush out fat as you lose weight, also
the more exercise the more water you need for your muscles. The way I see
it, as long as you are not retaining and you are letting out the water,
what is the harm in drinking it?





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Old July 28th, 2006, 03:16 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
JC Der Koenig
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If you want the diet to work, try eating less and exercising more instead of
making excuses.



"Angie" wrote in message
...
Do a search for water and diet and just about every article says that,
even Atkins and even at my friend's Weight Watchers meeting. They say the
more fat, the more water needed to flush out fat as you lose weight, also
the more exercise the more water you need for your muscles. The way I see
it, as long as you are not retaining and you are letting out the water,
what is the harm in drinking it?





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Old July 28th, 2006, 03:47 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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Angie wrote:

:: Do a search for water and diet and just about every article says
:: that, even Atkins and even at my friend's Weight Watchers meeting.
:: They say the more fat, the more water needed to flush out fat as you
:: lose weight,

Your body uses that fat for energy, not to flush it out.

also the more exercise the more water you need for your
:: muscles.

Well, you're not quite at that point yet....

The way I see it, as long as you are not retaining and you
:: are letting out the water, what is the harm in drinking it?

Well, it's not necessarily helping you to lose weight.


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Old July 28th, 2006, 08:26 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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I give you a lot of credit to start an exercise program at 260!!! Now
I have a feeling when you get on the scale you are going to be
suprised. Please keep us informed, I am very interested in how your
journey progresses. Thanks M
Angie wrote:
wrote
Angie I made an earlier post about you exercising and how great it is
that you are treadmilling and biking!! I wish when I was losing weight
I started right away but I waiting till I lost weight because I was too
embassesed to walk into a gym at 218 lbs.


Well, I was 260 pounds when I joined the Y, actually as a Christmas present
from my dad. When I first joined last December I tried a low impact
exercise group using balls and weights and floor exercises. If I was 50
pounds lighter that class would have been so easy. However, I was so winded
so easily, and my knees and back killed. I felt so horrible in that class,
I was the biggest one there. And then to top it off my trainer moved me to
the front of the class because I had bad balance, and up front I could hold
onto the wall if I needed too. I hated being in front of everyone and
having to look at myself up close in the mirrored wall exercising. Needless
to say I dropped out of the class after going twice and gave up feeling
sorry for and embarrassed for myself. But looking in my closet at all the
clothes I could be wearing this summer finally motivated me to start some
exercise plan on my own, at my own pace. Even if I'm not losing right now,
I do have more energy with the exercise. I just have to figure out what
type of combination of eating and exercise is going to be the ticket for me.


 




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