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  #11  
Old October 20th, 2007, 01:13 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
doug lerner
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Default Having big problems with my diet

On Oct 20, 6:04 am, "Willow Herself"
wrote:
I saw this coming from miles...

As long as you diet, as opposed to learning a healthy maintainable
lifestyle, that's what you're going to get.

Give Core a try... and stop obsessing..

Will~


I've tried Core in the past (and posted some notes about it) but
didn't really have any success with it. But time has passed, so I
might try it again.

doug

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Old October 20th, 2007, 03:29 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default Having big problems with my diet

Doug, re-reading my post, I realize how harsh it sounded. I didn't mean it
to, sincerely. I apologize for that.

I do think that you're very much so making this a diet, not a lifestyle
change, and that has proven, times and again, not to work long term.

What you're going through even has a name: "Diet Fatigue".

You need to find a way of living, that might bring slower results, but that
you can do for the rest of your life.

I've lost 3 lbs in the last 2 months, not that much really... it's slow, but
I'm not struggling. I living my life, and I happen to lose weight doing it.
I never go hungry, Inever kill myself working out... I just live, move, eat
to satisfaction... No immediate results, not sparkly weight loss, but
healthy eating and slowly losing what I need to lose.

Forget about strict restrictions, and numbers. What is healthy eating?
What's a "portion"? what's healthy foods?

Get healthy, the weight loss will follow...

WIll~

--


"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built
the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic."
Dave Barry


"doug lerner" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 20, 6:04 am, "Willow Herself"
wrote:
I saw this coming from miles...

As long as you diet, as opposed to learning a healthy maintainable
lifestyle, that's what you're going to get.

Give Core a try... and stop obsessing..

Will~


I've tried Core in the past (and posted some notes about it) but
didn't really have any success with it. But time has passed, so I
might try it again.

doug



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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:03 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
doug lerner
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Default Having big problems with my diet

As much as is humanly possible I've tried over the last two-and-a-half
years to make this a lifestyle change rather than a diet. But I know,
from long experience, if I dont' have some rules to go by, and if I
don't journal everything, and if I don't stick to the limits - I slip
and gain weight.

doug

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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:16 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Willow Herself
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Default Having big problems with my diet

As we ask members over and over, every week...

How is it working for you?

Will~ just trying to help..

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"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built
the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic."
Dave Barry


"doug lerner" wrote in message
oups.com...
As much as is humanly possible I've tried over the last two-and-a-half
years to make this a lifestyle change rather than a diet. But I know,
from long experience, if I dont' have some rules to go by, and if I
don't journal everything, and if I don't stick to the limits - I slip
and gain weight.

doug



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Old October 20th, 2007, 10:30 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
doug lerner
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Default Having big problems with my diet

As much as is humanly possible I've tried over the last two-and-a-half
years to make this a lifestyle change rather than a diet. But I know,
from long experience, if I dont' have some rules to go by, and if I
don't journal everything, and if I don't stick to the limits - I slip
and gain weight.

doug

  #16  
Old October 20th, 2007, 12:52 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Laura
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Default Having big problems with my diet

Doug,

I am the same way. I have incoporated the concepts of both the flex and core
plans into our way of eating as much as possible. Breakfasts and lunches are
always core. Dinner is the problem around here as DH does the cooking. I do
the meal planning but he does the cooking. We have switched to brown rice,
eat lots of steamed veggies, lean meat, chicken and pork most dinners. Its
the portions that also do damage. He serves the plate so I frequently double
check his guestimate of a portion size. That part of the program he has
mastered. I never mastered the "eat until satisfied" so I still follow the
flex plan portion control guidelines. Core has enough rules built in by way
of the foods you can and can not eat with out counting points. If that is
not enough structure eat like core but count points. You are still eating
healthy which may make a difference.

I remember when I first started WW (before core was introduced). I had
points left over each night and I typically filled myself up on empty
calories. Now that I don't eat processed foods or sugar on a regular basis
those things taste too sweet to me. My one weakness is microwave popcorn. I
usually have one of the mini bags for dessert while watching TV at night. I
have core to thank for that.

If you don't want to try core, at least go back over your menus and exercise
routine for the past month. What has changed that might be causeing you to
gain weight? Are you weighing and measuring your foods? Did you add a new
store bought salad or other food that might have a lot more calories than
you are accounting for. I suggest you post a typical menu for us to see if
we have any ideas. I have suggested this in the past when you have posted
about your struggles but I have not seen any posted yet.
--
~laura~

"doug lerner" wrote in message
ps.com...
As much as is humanly possible I've tried over the last two-and-a-half
years to make this a lifestyle change rather than a diet. But I know,
from long experience, if I dont' have some rules to go by, and if I
don't journal everything, and if I don't stick to the limits - I slip
and gain weight.

doug


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Old October 21st, 2007, 02:59 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
doug lerner
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Default Having big problems with my diet

What has changed over the last month is quite simple - I've broken the
diet any number of times. It's plain and simple "diet fatigue" causing
me to lose will-power. On some days this last month I've had as many
as 6 ice creams in one day!

There is no mystery about it at this point. I've just been having
enormous cravings for the first time in two years and so I've been
breaking my diet regularly.

The only good thing is that I seem to realize it. And I am weighing
myself every day. And on a day I gain weight I've been good the next
day. So things are not completely in an out-of-control spiral yet.

The last three days have been good. I reduced my carbs significantly
because I know they seem to cause hunger spikes. I told myself "not
even a McDonald's 150 calorie soft icecream until I'm back in the
80s".

Anyway, over the last three days I've gone from 92.2 kg to 91.8 kg to
90.8 kg this morning. If I can keep this up for a few more days I'm
back in the 80s at least.

Note that I am *not* doing "low carb" per se. I'm still watching my
calories. It's just that I am avoiding all the trigger foods which
seems to make me want to eat non-stop. Unfortunately those seem to all
be carbs. So I am limiting my carbs to a very few low-carb vegies,
like cucumbers, tomatoes, mushrooms, etc.

The drawback is that this way of eating is it is really boring. The
positive side is that I am getting my hunger under control and my
weight is coming down.

doug


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Old October 21st, 2007, 01:54 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Laura
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Default Having big problems with my diet

SInce this will be a struggle the rest of your life, identifying your
trigger foods now is a great idea. I have found that the chemicals found in
most processed foods, white flour and white sugar are my trigger foods. One
of the side benefits of the core plan is that the list of allowable foods
excludes these preprocessed foods. If I go too far astray from that core
list like while on vacation and traveling my cravings for sweets returns. It
only takes a couple of days of careful eating for the cravings to disappear.
I also have learned that I have to avoid having certain foods like chips in
the house or I will attack them. For me out of sight-out of mind seems to
help. For you, avoiding McDonalds sounds like it would help you.

As for being bored, try new recipes, new spices even new veggies and grains
to mix things up. As long as the calorie content is similar to what you
have been eating there should not be an impact.
--
~laura~
"doug lerner" wrote in message
oups.com...
What has changed over the last month is quite simple - I've broken the
diet any number of times. It's plain and simple "diet fatigue" causing
me to lose will-power. On some days this last month I've had as many
as 6 ice creams in one day!

There is no mystery about it at this point. I've just been having
enormous cravings for the first time in two years and so I've been
breaking my diet regularly.

The only good thing is that I seem to realize it. And I am weighing
myself every day. And on a day I gain weight I've been good the next
day. So things are not completely in an out-of-control spiral yet.

The last three days have been good. I reduced my carbs significantly
because I know they seem to cause hunger spikes. I told myself "not
even a McDonald's 150 calorie soft icecream until I'm back in the
80s".

Anyway, over the last three days I've gone from 92.2 kg to 91.8 kg to
90.8 kg this morning. If I can keep this up for a few more days I'm
back in the 80s at least.

Note that I am *not* doing "low carb" per se. I'm still watching my
calories. It's just that I am avoiding all the trigger foods which
seems to make me want to eat non-stop. Unfortunately those seem to all
be carbs. So I am limiting my carbs to a very few low-carb vegies,
like cucumbers, tomatoes, mushrooms, etc.

The drawback is that this way of eating is it is really boring. The
positive side is that I am getting my hunger under control and my
weight is coming down.

doug



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Old October 21st, 2007, 03:38 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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Default Having big problems with my diet

facing the issue is the key and you are being honest with yourself, if carbs
are a trigger food then they just are... its pizza for DH and for me chicken
that is called wings.. also Mexican food, even fat free refried beans makes
me want to eat too much, Lee
doug lerner wrote in message
oups.com...
What has changed over the last month is quite simple - I've broken the
diet any number of times. It's plain and simple "diet fatigue" causing
me to lose will-power. On some days this last month I've had as many
as 6 ice creams in one day!

There is no mystery about it at this point. I've just been having
enormous cravings for the first time in two years and so I've been
breaking my diet regularly.

The only good thing is that I seem to realize it. And I am weighing
myself every day. And on a day I gain weight I've been good the next
day. So things are not completely in an out-of-control spiral yet.

The last three days have been good. I reduced my carbs significantly
because I know they seem to cause hunger spikes. I told myself "not
even a McDonald's 150 calorie soft icecream until I'm back in the
80s".

Anyway, over the last three days I've gone from 92.2 kg to 91.8 kg to
90.8 kg this morning. If I can keep this up for a few more days I'm
back in the 80s at least.

Note that I am *not* doing "low carb" per se. I'm still watching my
calories. It's just that I am avoiding all the trigger foods which
seems to make me want to eat non-stop. Unfortunately those seem to all
be carbs. So I am limiting my carbs to a very few low-carb vegies,
like cucumbers, tomatoes, mushrooms, etc.

The drawback is that this way of eating is it is really boring. The
positive side is that I am getting my hunger under control and my
weight is coming down.

doug




  #20  
Old October 23rd, 2007, 02:22 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
doug lerner
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Default Having big problems with my diet

Thanks for the new notes, Laura and Stormmee.

What I think I will try to do, since I desperately need to add some
more carbs in to ward off death-from-boredom, is add more Core-allowed
carbs in until it seems I am hitting a trigger food.

doug


 




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