Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what to do now...

any can be done this way. Perhaps your weight issue is not enough fiber?
Lee
doug lerner wrote in message
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Great low calorie snack/meal for "people barely able to cook".

1. Coat the fry pan liberally with that Mazola zero-calorie butter
spray. Add garlic. Then throw in chopped up mushrooms and/or eggplant.

2. Add a little bit of oyster sauce and cook really well, until most
of the liquids are got.

Very yummy and very low calorie and very filling.

If you throw in some white meat chicken you have a home cooked low
calorie dinner too.

I've done this for dinner the last two nights and dropped 1.2 kg and
then 0.4 kg = 1.6 kg the last two days.

Of course walking 8 miles yesterday could have helped too.

doug

You can vary the vegetables a lot. Perhaps Kate can share her 0 point
soup recipes with you. It's good to have a variety of these satisfying
but good tasting low point meals. How did you manage to walk eight
miles? You posted previously that you normally walked 30 minutes
daily.
Audrey

"doug lerner" wrote in message
oups.com...
Great low calorie snack/meal for "people barely able to cook".

1. Coat the fry pan liberally with that Mazola zero-calorie butter
spray. Add garlic. Then throw in chopped up mushrooms and/or eggplant.

2. Add a little bit of oyster sauce and cook really well, until most
of the liquids are got.

Very yummy and very low calorie and very filling.

If you throw in some white meat chicken you have a home cooked low
calorie dinner too.

I've done this for dinner the last two nights and dropped 1.2 kg and
then 0.4 kg = 1.6 kg the last two days.

Of course walking 8 miles yesterday could have helped too.

doug

ahmward wrote:
You can vary the vegetables a lot. Perhaps Kate can share her 0 point
soup recipes with you. It's good to have a variety of these satisfying
but good tasting low point meals. How did you manage to walk eight
miles? You posted previously that you normally walked 30 minutes daily.
Audrey

Zero point soup and salad recipes on the way. Jog my memory if I
forget, as this is a tad busy round here today...

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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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On Apr 17, 12:10 am, "ahmward" wrote:
You can vary the vegetables a lot. Perhaps Kate can share her 0 point
soup recipes with you. It's good to have a variety of these satisfying
but good tasting low point meals. How did you manage to walk eight
miles? You posted previously that you normally walked 30 minutes
daily.
Audrey


A 74 year old woman in my neighborhood has been trying to get me to go
on this long walk with her to a shrine and park way up river where
there are Jomon era remains. Finally she caught up with me on Sunday
and I said "Well, I'm not going to let a 74 year old woman beat me on
walking" and so off we went.

About 16,000 steps on my pedometer!

doug

"doug lerner" wrote in message
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On Apr 17, 12:10 am, "ahmward" wrote:
You can vary the vegetables a lot. Perhaps Kate can share her 0
point
soup recipes with you. It's good to have a variety of these
satisfying
but good tasting low point meals. How did you manage to walk eight
miles? You posted previously that you normally walked 30 minutes
daily.
Audrey


A 74 year old woman in my neighborhood has been trying to get me to go
on this long walk with her to a shrine and park way up river where
there are Jomon era remains. Finally she caught up with me on Sunday
and I said "Well, I'm not going to let a 74 year old woman beat me on
walking" and so off we went.

About 16,000 steps on my pedometer!

doug

That is so cool.

Audrey

On Apr 14, 4:32 am, Kate XXXXXX
wrote:
doug lerner wrote:
I honestly don't understand what's happening anymore. I swear I'm not
doing anything differenly than I've been doing these past 680 days,
but my weight is just creeping up...

After my Core experiment, when weight zoomed up from 81 kg to like
84.8, it started coming down again, slowly, when I went back to strict
calorie counting.

But then it hovered at 84.4 for a couple of weeks and for some reason
this morning jumped to 85.8 kg!

What is happening?

I am not sure what to try at this point. Naturally, no matter what I
do, I will not exceed my daily calorie limit of 1700, but I feel I
need to change something already.

This is getting very depressing.

The problem is that I might simply need to eat fewer calories per day.
Like maybe 1300 or 1400 instead of 1700. Maybe my metabolism has just
slowed down.

But I feel like a big change in calorie rules would be "setting me up
for a big fall" if I suddenly tried even harder calorie restrictions.

Nevertheless, looking at what WW would allocate to me, point-wise, it
came to just 28 points/day (which I calculated during my free one-week
online trial). That is about 1400 calories/day. Of course WW has those
35 free points per week, which comes to about 1750 calories, whereas I
am giving myself just 1000.

Mammoth amounts of exercise per day are also just not realistic. I
know me. If I do 30 minutes to an hour of walking a day I feel I've
done well.

Any diet plan has to be something that can be reasonably followed -
forever. If it is too cumbersome, then I know I would fall off the
wagon.

Speaking of exercise, WW also calculates exercise points differently
than I do. I have been giving myself full calorie credit for all
exercise and deducting exercise calories from calories I've eaten -
and have allowed myself to carry this over all week, until I reset. I
believe in WW you have to "use them or lose them" the day you do your
exercise, right? Also, I don't think WW gives you full credit towards
eating points for the exercise you do - doesn't come to like half,
calorie-wise?

Anyway, conservation of energy is conservation of energy. It's either
less calories and/or more exercise. I know it. But I don't know if I
really have the will power to make a radical change in a plan I've
been able to stay on so long now without going off even one time...

So I'm up against reality.

But... it is definitely time for a diet tweak of some kind...

doug

Doug, presuming that you are sitting most of the day in the office, on
the UK system you'd be on 28 points per day only: NO flex points on our
system! Then you can earn as many exercise points as you like in the
week, but you may only consume 14 of them: the rest go down to weight
loss. And you can consume those points at any time in the week, not
just on the day you earn them, so you can save them up for a party or
meal out if you like!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttonshttp://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!


Quick question: does anybody here know how many ww points the hostess
100 calorie packs are?

wrote in message
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On Apr 14, 4:32 am, Kate XXXXXX
wrote:
doug lerner wrote:
I honestly don't understand what's happening anymore. I swear I'm not
doing anything differenly than I've been doing these past 680 days,
but my weight is just creeping up...

After my Core experiment, when weight zoomed up from 81 kg to like
84.8, it started coming down again, slowly, when I went back to strict
calorie counting.

But then it hovered at 84.4 for a couple of weeks and for some reason
this morning jumped to 85.8 kg!

What is happening?

I am not sure what to try at this point. Naturally, no matter what I
do, I will not exceed my daily calorie limit of 1700, but I feel I
need to change something already.

This is getting very depressing.

The problem is that I might simply need to eat fewer calories per day.
Like maybe 1300 or 1400 instead of 1700. Maybe my metabolism has just
slowed down.

But I feel like a big change in calorie rules would be "setting me up
for a big fall" if I suddenly tried even harder calorie restrictions.

Nevertheless, looking at what WW would allocate to me, point-wise, it
came to just 28 points/day (which I calculated during my free one-week
online trial). That is about 1400 calories/day. Of course WW has those
35 free points per week, which comes to about 1750 calories, whereas I
am giving myself just 1000.

Mammoth amounts of exercise per day are also just not realistic. I
know me. If I do 30 minutes to an hour of walking a day I feel I've
done well.

Any diet plan has to be something that can be reasonably followed -
forever. If it is too cumbersome, then I know I would fall off the
wagon.

Speaking of exercise, WW also calculates exercise points differently
than I do. I have been giving myself full calorie credit for all
exercise and deducting exercise calories from calories I've eaten -
and have allowed myself to carry this over all week, until I reset. I
believe in WW you have to "use them or lose them" the day you do your
exercise, right? Also, I don't think WW gives you full credit towards
eating points for the exercise you do - doesn't come to like half,
calorie-wise?

Anyway, conservation of energy is conservation of energy. It's either
less calories and/or more exercise. I know it. But I don't know if I
really have the will power to make a radical change in a plan I've
been able to stay on so long now without going off even one time...

So I'm up against reality.

But... it is definitely time for a diet tweak of some kind...

doug

Doug, presuming that you are sitting most of the day in the office, on
the UK system you'd be on 28 points per day only: NO flex points on our
system! Then you can earn as many exercise points as you like in the
week, but you may only consume 14 of them: the rest go down to weight
loss. And you can consume those points at any time in the week, not
just on the day you earn them, so you can save them up for a party or
meal out if you like!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate
Buttonshttp://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!


Quick question: does anybody here know how many ww points the hostess
100 calorie packs are?

I believe they are 2 points.

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is the exact
formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with a maxium
of 4 fiber grams allowed.

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is the
exact formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with a
maxium of 4 fiber grams allowed.


This works for US... but does anyone have the formula for UK points
please?

Thanks Anne H.

How about going to a meeting and actually pay for the program?
Will~

"ath" wrote in message
...

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is the
exact formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with a
maxium of 4 fiber grams allowed.


This works for US... but does anyone have the formula for UK points
please?

Thanks Anne H.

Will ~ I think you have misunderstood me.
I do go to a weekly meeting in Epping England.... and pay.

I was just curious about the different way that WW formulates the points
in different
countries. In the US fiber is taken into account, whereas that's not
the case in the UK.
I had already seen the formula for US points and wondered whether anyone
knows the formula
for UK points.

Anne H.





"Willow Herself" wrote in
message t...
How about going to a meeting and actually pay for the program?
Will~

"ath" wrote in message
...

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is
the
exact formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with
a
maxium of 4 fiber grams allowed.


This works for US... but does anyone have the formula for UK points
please?

Thanks Anne H.