Onderwerp: atkins - question about health problems

hi group,
sorry i was not there to thank and respond, computers down a bit, family
gatherings a bit, etc.
I so appreciate everyone jumping in and responding to my entry, yes i am
European, living in the netherlands, little support here for Atkins or other
low carb programs. My husband and I started doing this together, he was
familiar with it, I not. Only tried WW for a brief moment last year, never
ever had the word diet in my vocabulary before, not ever needed.
We serioulsy did Induction, and after that I was the stickler on
as-low-as-carb-as-we-can-make-it, whereas my husband rather soon introduced
some carbs. But again: good stuff: wonderful wholemeal flours from the
wind/mills here in Holland or in England. We actually do go to a working
windmill for our flours! Great bread that yes indeed: delicious totally dry.
A far cry from those ricecakes...
On Atkins we enjoyed lots of delicious summer vegtables and made Greek type
salads.
Because of my personal concerns I switched one and a half weeks ago away
from low-carb and within about one day lost this horrendous fatigue I had
been suffering from. I found it rather remarkable that it was an immediate
change.
I am now doing a no-fat 5 days x 3 week session (weekends can be 'normal")
on a no-fat diet from a hospital here in Holland. Yoghurt, fruit, toast,
fruit (eaten separately from meals) a little meat or egg.
I have lost a couple of kilos on this, want to come down another 8 kilo and
then stabalize. This diet has a one-day-a-week diet day for maintenance: AM:
lemonwater, lunch: 1 appel, one good toast, Dinner: one tomatoe, 1 egg, one
toast.
Oh yes, and I am starting Callanetics (wanted to do that for years now),
exercice 15 min in the morning with a good TV prog.

thanks again, will follow the list and learn from it

jopie (not a troll, not a gnome, just forever learning )

hi group,
sorry i was not there to thank and respond, computers down a bit, family
gatherings a bit, etc.
I so appreciate everyone jumping in and responding to my entry, yes i am
European, living in the netherlands, little support here for Atkins or other
low carb programs. My husband and I started doing this together, he was
familiar with it, I not. Only tried WW for a brief moment last year, never
ever had the word diet in my vocabulary before, not ever needed.
We serioulsy did Induction, and after that I was the stickler on
as-low-as-carb-as-we-can-make-it, whereas my husband rather soon introduced
some carbs. But again: good stuff: wonderful wholemeal flours from the
wind/mills here in Holland or in England. We actually do go to a working
windmill for our flours! Great bread that yes indeed: delicious totally dry.
A far cry from those ricecakes...
On Atkins we enjoyed lots of delicious summer vegtables and made Greek type
salads.
Because of my personal concerns I switched one and a half weeks ago away
from low-carb and within about one day lost this horrendous fatigue I had
been suffering from. I found it rather remarkable that it was an immediate
change.
I am now doing a no-fat 5 days x 3 week session (weekends can be 'normal")
on a no-fat diet from a hospital here in Holland. Yoghurt, fruit, toast,
fruit (eaten separately from meals) a little meat or egg.
I have lost a couple of kilos on this, want to come down another 8 kilo and
then stabalize. This diet has a one-day-a-week diet day for maintenance: AM:
lemonwater, lunch: 1 appel, one good toast, Dinner: one tomatoe, 1 egg, one
toast.
Oh yes, and I am starting Callanetics (wanted to do that for years now),
exercice 15 min in the morning with a good TV prog.

thanks again, will follow the list and learn from it

jopie (not a troll, not a gnome, just forever learning )

Hello Jopie - I am also in the Netherlands, and you're right, there isn't a
lot of support here. Most people probably think I'm crazy if they see my
shopping basket at Albert Heijn (NL version of Safeway). I'm an American
living here for a couple of years, here with my husband's work.

Because of my personal concerns I switched one and a half weeks ago away
from low-carb and within about one day lost this horrendous fatigue I had
been suffering from. I found it rather remarkable that it was an immediate
change.

Lots of people experience this same thing during Induction - sometimes
called the "Induction Flu". I felt terrible and had such headaches - but
they were gone after a few days, then I started feeling GREAT. In the
Atkins New Diet Revolution Book, Dr. Atkins says that the sick feeling
during Induction is a good sign that you will benefit greatly from cutting
carbs. But you have to stay low-carb to get past it.

I am now doing a no-fat 5 days x 3 week session (weekends can be
'normal")
on a no-fat diet from a hospital here in Holland. Yoghurt, fruit, toast,
fruit (eaten separately from meals) a little meat or egg.

Good for you if this works for you - but this is a low-carb newsgroup, and
you aren't going to get a lot of support from the folks here if you're
eating a lot of toast and fruit!

Also - have you carefully read one of the Atkins books? I think it might
help you at this point, if you are interested in eating low-carb. And it is
possible to stay low-carb in Holland!

S t a c i

Hello Jopie - I am also in the Netherlands, and you're right, there isn't a
lot of support here. Most people probably think I'm crazy if they see my
shopping basket at Albert Heijn (NL version of Safeway). I'm an American
living here for a couple of years, here with my husband's work.

Because of my personal concerns I switched one and a half weeks ago away
from low-carb and within about one day lost this horrendous fatigue I had
been suffering from. I found it rather remarkable that it was an immediate
change.

Lots of people experience this same thing during Induction - sometimes
called the "Induction Flu". I felt terrible and had such headaches - but
they were gone after a few days, then I started feeling GREAT. In the
Atkins New Diet Revolution Book, Dr. Atkins says that the sick feeling
during Induction is a good sign that you will benefit greatly from cutting
carbs. But you have to stay low-carb to get past it.

I am now doing a no-fat 5 days x 3 week session (weekends can be
'normal")
on a no-fat diet from a hospital here in Holland. Yoghurt, fruit, toast,
fruit (eaten separately from meals) a little meat or egg.

Good for you if this works for you - but this is a low-carb newsgroup, and
you aren't going to get a lot of support from the folks here if you're
eating a lot of toast and fruit!

Also - have you carefully read one of the Atkins books? I think it might
help you at this point, if you are interested in eating low-carb. And it is
possible to stay low-carb in Holland!

S t a c i

thanks Staci for your response.
I did read one of the books, kept is as a bible on the kitchen table also as
a constant reference point, which was very handy.
Albert Heijn btw is the most expensive of the supermarkets here in Holland.
But with the economy stressed as people taking their euro's to less
expensive markets, they have had to start cutting prices.
There are lots of people though who would not be caught dead in a
"lesser"supermarket... Still a long way to go..

I'm in haarlem btw, and you?
regards
jopie



"S t a c i" wrote in message
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Hello Jopie - I am also in the Netherlands, and you're right, there isn't
a
lot of support here. Most people probably think I'm crazy if they see my
shopping basket at Albert Heijn (NL version of Safeway). I'm an American
living here for a couple of years, here with my husband's work.

Because of my personal concerns I switched one and a half weeks ago away
from low-carb and within about one day lost this horrendous fatigue I
had
been suffering from. I found it rather remarkable that it was an
immediate
change.

Lots of people experience this same thing during Induction - sometimes
called the "Induction Flu". I felt terrible and had such headaches - but
they were gone after a few days, then I started feeling GREAT. In the
Atkins New Diet Revolution Book, Dr. Atkins says that the sick feeling
during Induction is a good sign that you will benefit greatly from cutting
carbs. But you have to stay low-carb to get past it.

I am now doing a no-fat 5 days x 3 week session (weekends can be
'normal")
on a no-fat diet from a hospital here in Holland. Yoghurt, fruit, toast,
fruit (eaten separately from meals) a little meat or egg.

Good for you if this works for you - but this is a low-carb newsgroup, and
you aren't going to get a lot of support from the folks here if you're
eating a lot of toast and fruit!

Also - have you carefully read one of the Atkins books? I think it might
help you at this point, if you are interested in eating low-carb. And it
is
possible to stay low-carb in Holland!

S t a c i