How you can eat more food than you might think...

....and not gain weight. This is not a gimmick either. It involves the
quirk present in food labels where fiber us usually, but not always
counted as calories. Fiber has NO CALORIES. In fact, that is the
definition of it, yet it is a carb, so it will be listed under total
carbohydrates. Fat calories are listed per serving. Add the protein
calories by multiplying 4 by the grams of protein and then multiply
the total carbs by 4 and add this. If the total of all carbs, fat and
protein is the same as the calories listed per serving, and the
product contains fiber, the fiber has been assigned calories, so the
calorie count will be too high. All you have to do then is multiply
the grams of fiber by 4 and subtract it from the total to get a more
accurate calorie count for the food. Foods that are highest in fiber
are often significantly lower in calories than the label suggests.
Lentils, carrots, blueberries, whole grains, green beans, all beans in
fact, most vegetables have lots of fiber. Lentils are the highest
fiber food I know about. This is why you will see the calories listed
anywhere from 70 cal to 120 cal. for the same 1/4 cup dry serving.
Some labels have subtracted the fiber, some have not. It can make a
huge difference. Green beans, for example become a very low calorie,
high-protein food when you look at the fiber and protein as a
percentage of the calories, which is the accurate way to look at any
food.

Why this quirk with labelling? Because a calorie is a laboratory
measurement where they burn the food and measure the heat that comes
off of it. That's what a calorie is. Yet this is clearly not how your
body uses food. The good news is that you can take advantage of this
difference and eat more food by switching to a high-fiber diet, hence
more food by weight than before for the same calories. dkw

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...and not gain weight. This is not a gimmick either. It involves the
quirk present in food labels where fiber us usually, but not always
counted as calories. Fiber has NO CALORIES. In fact, that is the
definition of it, yet it is a carb, so it will be listed under total
carbohydrates. Fat calories are listed per serving. Add the protein
calories by multiplying 4 by the grams of protein and then multiply
the total carbs by 4 and add this. If the total of all carbs, fat and
protein is the same as the calories listed per serving, and the
product contains fiber, the fiber has been assigned calories, so the
calorie count will be too high. All you have to do then is multiply
the grams of fiber by 4 and subtract it from the total to get a more
accurate calorie count for the food. Foods that are highest in fiber
are often significantly lower in calories than the label suggests.
Lentils, carrots, blueberries, whole grains, green beans, all beans in
fact, most vegetables have lots of fiber. Lentils are the highest
fiber food I know about. This is why you will see the calories listed
anywhere from 70 cal to 120 cal. for the same 1/4 cup dry serving.
Some labels have subtracted the fiber, some have not. It can make a
huge difference. Green beans, for example become a very low calorie,
high-protein food when you look at the fiber and protein as a
percentage of the calories, which is the accurate way to look at any
food.

Why this quirk with labelling? Because a calorie is a laboratory
measurement where they burn the food and measure the heat that comes
off of it. That's what a calorie is. Yet this is clearly not how your
body uses food. The good news is that you can take advantage of this
difference and eat more food by switching to a high-fiber diet, hence
more food by weight than before for the same calories. dkw

Good grief.

If people are struggling to lose weight and you help them determine that
there are fewer calories in a food than they were led to believe, is that
really helpful? They are already probably eating too much.

Secondly, the body adjusts to calorie density after two or three weeks.
Thus, if you eat food that has a lot of fiber, you only fool your body for a
short time. In the long run you have achieved nothing.

On Mar 1, 11:19*am, "Cubit" wrote:
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...and not gain weight. This is not a gimmick either. It involves the
quirk present in food labels where fiber us usually, but not always
counted as calories. Fiber has NO CALORIES. In fact, that is the
definition of it, yet it is a carb, so it will be listed under total
carbohydrates. Fat calories are listed per serving. Add the protein
calories by multiplying 4 by the grams of protein and then multiply
the total carbs by 4 and add this. If the total of all carbs, fat and
protein is the same as the calories listed per serving, and the
product contains fiber, the fiber has been assigned calories, so the
calorie count will be too high. All you have to do then is multiply
the grams of fiber by 4 and subtract it from the total to get a more
accurate calorie count for the food. Foods that are highest in fiber
are often significantly lower in calories than the label suggests.
Lentils, carrots, blueberries, whole grains, green beans, all beans in
fact, most vegetables have lots of fiber. Lentils are the highest
fiber food I know about. This is why you will see the calories listed
anywhere from 70 cal to 120 cal. for the same 1/4 cup dry serving.
Some labels have subtracted the fiber, some have not. It can make a
huge difference. Green beans, for example become a very low calorie,
high-protein food when you look at the fiber and protein as a
percentage of the calories, which is the accurate way to look at any
food.

Why this quirk with labelling? Because a calorie is a laboratory
measurement where they burn the food and measure the heat that comes
off of it. That's what a calorie is. Yet this is clearly not how your
body uses food. The good news is that you can take advantage of this
difference and eat more food by switching to a high-fiber diet, hence
more food by weight than before for the same calories. dkw

Good grief.

If people are struggling to lose weight and you help them determine that
there are fewer calories in a food than they were led to believe, is that
really helpful? *They are already probably eating too much.

Secondly, the body adjusts to calorie density after two or three weeks.
Thus, if you eat food that has a lot of fiber, you only fool your body for a
short time. *In the long run you have achieved nothing.- Hide quoted text -

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Well, if they change their diets though and eat more fiber instead,
they do get to eat more food for the same calories. You aren't
fooling your body in this case, unless you do in fact eat far fewer
calories than you need. If you need 2,000 calories per day to maintain
a given weight, I don't think your body cares if that comes how much
of that is fiber. The argument I am aware of only has to do with
undereating and the adjustment that comes from that after a while.
Anecdoctally, I eat a very high fiber diet and measure calories very
precisely. There has been no adjustment by my body. I have been able
to eat 2,000 calories ever since I first determined that over 3 years
ago, even though I was not eating high fiber at first. dkw

Soluble fiber contains calories. The body doesn't treat it as carbs,
but it still adds fuel to the body (calories).

Based on your premise, I can eat an extra 200 colories a day provided
I increase my fiber intake by 50 grams. Why would anyone want to do
that?


So,
On Mar 1, 5:41*pm, " wrote:
On Mar 1, 11:19*am, "Cubit" wrote:





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...and not gain weight. This is not a gimmick either. It involves the
quirk present infoodlabels where fiber us usually, but not always
counted ascalories. Fiber has NOCALORIES. In fact, that is the
definition of it, yet it is a carb, so it will be listed under total
carbohydrates. Fatcaloriesare listed per serving. Add the protein
caloriesby multiplying 4 by the grams of protein and then multiply
the total carbs by 4 and add this. If the total of all carbs, fat and
protein is the same as thecalorieslisted per serving, and the
product contains fiber, the fiber has been assignedcalories, so the
calorie count will be too high. All you have to do then is multiply
the grams of fiber by 4 and subtract it from the total to get a more
accurate calorie count for thefood. Foods that are highest in fiber
are often significantly lower incaloriesthan the label suggests.
Lentils, carrots, blueberries, whole grains, green beans, all beans in
fact, most vegetables have lots of fiber. Lentils are the highest
fiberfoodI know about. This is why you will see thecalorieslisted
anywhere from 70 cal to 120 cal. for the same 1/4 cup dry serving.
Some labels have subtracted the fiber, some have not. It can make a
huge difference. Green beans, for example become a very low calorie,
high-proteinfoodwhen you look at the fiber and protein as a
percentage of thecalories, which is the accurate way to look at any
food.

Why this quirk with labelling? Because a calorie is a laboratory
measurement where they burn thefoodand measure the heat that comes
off of it. That's what a calorie is. Yet this is clearly not how your
body usesfood. The good news is that you can take advantage of this
difference and eat morefoodby switching to a high-fiberdiet, hence
morefoodby weight than before for the samecalories. dkw

Good grief.

If people are struggling to lose weight and you help them determine that
there are fewercaloriesin afoodthan they were led to believe, is that
really helpful? *They are already probably eating too much.

Secondly, the body adjusts to calorie density after two or three weeks.
Thus, if you eatfoodthat has a lot of fiber, you only fool your body for a
short time. *In the long run you have achieved nothing.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, if they change their diets though and eat more fiber instead,
they do get to eat morefoodfor the samecalories. *You aren't
fooling your body in this case, unless you do in fact eat far fewercaloriesthan you need. If you need 2,000caloriesper day to maintain
a given weight, I don't think your body cares if that comes how much
of that is fiber. The argument I am aware of only has to do with
undereating and the adjustment that comes from that after a while.
Anecdoctally, I eat a very high fiberdietand measurecaloriesvery
precisely. There has been no adjustment by my body. I have been able
to eat 2,000caloriesever since I first determined that over 3 years
ago, even though I was not eating high fiber at first. dkw- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Mar 3, 8:23*am, Becky wrote:
Soluble fiber contains calories. * The body doesn't treat it as carbs,
but it still adds fuel to the body (calories).

Based on your premise, I can eat an extra 200 colories a day provided
I increase my fiber intake by 50 grams. *Why would anyone want to do
that?

So,
On Mar 1, 5:41*pm, " wrote:



On Mar 1, 11:19*am, "Cubit" wrote:

wrote in message

....

...and not gain weight. This is not a gimmick either. It involves the
quirk present infoodlabels where fiber us usually, but not always
counted ascalories. Fiber has NOCALORIES. In fact, that is the
definition of it, yet it is a carb, so it will be listed under total
carbohydrates. Fatcaloriesare listed per serving. Add the protein
caloriesby multiplying 4 by the grams of protein and then multiply
the total carbs by 4 and add this. If the total of all carbs, fat and
protein is the same as thecalorieslisted per serving, and the
product contains fiber, the fiber has been assignedcalories, so the
calorie count will be too high. All you have to do then is multiply
the grams of fiber by 4 and subtract it from the total to get a more
accurate calorie count for thefood. Foods that are highest in fiber
are often significantly lower incaloriesthan the label suggests.
Lentils, carrots, blueberries, whole grains, green beans, all beans in
fact, most vegetables have lots of fiber. Lentils are the highest
fiberfoodI know about. This is why you will see thecalorieslisted
anywhere from 70 cal to 120 cal. for the same 1/4 cup dry serving.
Some labels have subtracted the fiber, some have not. It can make a
huge difference. Green beans, for example become a very low calorie,
high-proteinfoodwhen you look at the fiber and protein as a
percentage of thecalories, which is the accurate way to look at any
food.

Why this quirk with labelling? Because a calorie is a laboratory
measurement where they burn thefoodand measure the heat that comes
off of it. That's what a calorie is. Yet this is clearly not how your
body usesfood. The good news is that you can take advantage of this
difference and eat morefoodby switching to a high-fiberdiet, hence
morefoodby weight than before for the samecalories. dkw

Good grief.

If people are struggling to lose weight and you help them determine that
there are fewercaloriesin afoodthan they were led to believe, is that
really helpful? *They are already probably eating too much.

Secondly, the body adjusts to calorie density after two or three weeks..
Thus, if you eatfoodthat has a lot of fiber, you only fool your body for a
short time. *In the long run you have achieved nothing.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, if they change their diets though and eat more fiber instead,
they do get to eat morefoodfor the samecalories. *You aren't
fooling your body in this case, unless you do in fact eat far fewercaloriesthan you need. If you need 2,000caloriesper day to maintain
a given weight, I don't think your body cares if that comes how much
of that is fiber. The argument I am aware of only has to do with
undereating and the adjustment that comes from that after a while.
Anecdoctally, I eat a very high fiberdietand measurecaloriesvery
precisely. There has been no adjustment by my body. I have been able
to eat 2,000caloriesever since I first determined that over 3 years
ago, even though I was not eating high fiber at first. dkw- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't believe any kind of fiber contains calories, but there is that
opinion out there and apparently some people count fiber as having 2
calories per gram which is half of what it would be if it were a
regular carb which has 4 calories per gram.

My goodness, fiber is good for you and is thought to reduce high bp
and help reduce colon cancer. If you are already getting enough fiber,
you probably wouldn't want to though. dkw

"Becky" wrote in message
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Soluble fiber contains calories. The body doesn't treat it as carbs,
but it still adds fuel to the body (calories).

Based on your premise, I can eat an extra 200 colories a day provided
I increase my fiber intake by 50 grams. Why would anyone want to do
that?

(snip)

I think the point is that fiber, soluble or not, is pretty much NOT
digested, except for a small amount processed by intestinal bacteria. So
the bomb calorimeter thinks it has calories but it is not utilized by the
body. So if you eat a bunch of sawdust or wheat bran or metamuccal the
tables might say that calories are there but but your body doesn't. And
in fact it drags other food along in its passage, thereby reducing
absorbtion.

At least that's the story...

On Mar 3, 12:33*pm, "Del Cecchi"
wrote:
"Becky" wrote in message

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Soluble fiber contains calories. * The body doesn't treat it as carbs,
but it still adds fuel to the body (calories).

Based on your premise, I can eat an extra 200 colories a day provided
I increase my fiber intake by 50 grams. *Why would anyone want to do
that?

(snip)

I think the point is that fiber, soluble or not, is pretty much NOT
digested, except for a small amount processed by intestinal bacteria. *So
the bomb calorimeter thinks it has calories but it is not utilized by the
body. *So if you eat a bunch of sawdust or wheat bran or metamuccal the
tables might say that calories are there but but your body doesn't. *And
in fact it drags other food along in its passage, thereby reducing
absorbtion.

At least that's the story...

I think that's right. In fact, what is fiber to us does in fact burn
calories in other animals like goats and deer that can digest it. One
definition of fiber is that it CANNOT be digested, so to me that means
0 calories, but I guess someone could make the argument that bacteria
in the gut can digest it and impart calories if their byproducts are
then absorbed. I suppose the products would be an assortment of
alcohol and acids if they are like most bacteria. Heck, maybe it's
even those products that really does the good in preventing colon
cancer and lower BP. So much they really don't know about it. I have
also heard the argument that there might even be negative calories,
since your body works like hell to try and digest fiber, but in the
end it can't and in the meantime you have burned energy in some futile
attempt to digest something indigestible. In terms of calories, all I
know is that I used to eat a much lower-fiber diet consuming 2025
calories a day. I now consume 2025 calories a day using my zero
calories for fiber determinations, ie, MORE FOOD and more calories if
there is in fact calories in fiber, yet my weight has not budged for 3
years. Being the creature of habit that I am, I make a pretty good
test subject...always the same foods, same workout schedule, same
sleep, etc....boring in other words. I doubt if most people could
tolerate 4X the daily recommendation for fiber that I get everyday,
but I love the foods like lentils, beans, whole grains, veggies that
contain it. They also have started using more fiber in things like
Fiber One and lite bread (Nature's Own has 40 cal per slice). The
fiber doesn't add calories, but passes as food...no pun intended. dkw