Dieting is hard!

On 8/19/2004 6:48 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:


Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as fast or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that adds its
own difficulties to the mix.


*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!


Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?

That's not what she said. She said, "the body wants to maintain fat."
In addition, there are water weight issues which put different
psychological stresses on women than men.



--
jmk in NC

On 8/19/2004 6:48 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:


Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as fast or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that adds its
own difficulties to the mix.


*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!


Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?

That's not what she said. She said, "the body wants to maintain fat."
In addition, there are water weight issues which put different
psychological stresses on women than men.



--
jmk in NC

On 8/19/2004 8:45 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:


In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:


Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as fast or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that adds its
own difficulties to the mix.


*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!

Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?


It's not just water retention; it's to do with hormone fluctuation, etc.
You may choose to disbelieve us, but that is your privilege.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/health/0...d01-197825.htm


I do not "disbelieve", as such, I want to see some evidence. So many
things are said without evidence, that it only makes sense to ask for
it.

Thanks for the article, I will read it. It seems to say that men have
higher BMR (``In a preliminary study recently conducted on 76 Beaumont
patients who were morbidly obese (a 5-foot-8 person who weighs 310
pounds, for example), the men burned 13.6 calories per minute at their
peak exercise level, while the women burned 10.5 calories per
minute.'').

Besides that, would a man with a 500 calorie per day deficit lose
faster than a woman with a 500 calorie per day deficit?

i
They would not. A man can more easily achieve a defict and eat a
quantity of calories that would require women to go on VLCD. I see math
is not your strong suit.

--
jmk in NC

On 8/19/2004 8:45 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:


In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:


Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as fast or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that adds its
own difficulties to the mix.


*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!

Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?


It's not just water retention; it's to do with hormone fluctuation, etc.
You may choose to disbelieve us, but that is your privilege.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/health/0...d01-197825.htm


I do not "disbelieve", as such, I want to see some evidence. So many
things are said without evidence, that it only makes sense to ask for
it.

Thanks for the article, I will read it. It seems to say that men have
higher BMR (``In a preliminary study recently conducted on 76 Beaumont
patients who were morbidly obese (a 5-foot-8 person who weighs 310
pounds, for example), the men burned 13.6 calories per minute at their
peak exercise level, while the women burned 10.5 calories per
minute.'').

Besides that, would a man with a 500 calorie per day deficit lose
faster than a woman with a 500 calorie per day deficit?

i
They would not. A man can more easily achieve a defict and eat a
quantity of calories that would require women to go on VLCD. I see math
is not your strong suit.

--
jmk in NC

Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:
Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

Besides that, would a man with a 500 calorie per day deficit lose
faster than a woman with a 500 calorie per day deficit?

Given a man and a woman of equal height and build, probably yes, since
the man is liable to have more muscle tissue and less fat for his weight
than the woman is.

Even so, remember, they still have the same calorie deficit, 500
calories in my example.

In which case, the man is probably eating more than the woman; if they
were both eating the same, he would have a larger calorie deficit than
her.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg

Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:
Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

Besides that, would a man with a 500 calorie per day deficit lose
faster than a woman with a 500 calorie per day deficit?

Given a man and a woman of equal height and build, probably yes, since
the man is liable to have more muscle tissue and less fat for his weight
than the woman is.

Even so, remember, they still have the same calorie deficit, 500
calories in my example.

In which case, the man is probably eating more than the woman; if they
were both eating the same, he would have a larger calorie deficit than
her.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg

"Ignoramus29728" wrote in message
...
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:
Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:
JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:

Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more
in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to
their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as
fast or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that
adds its
own difficulties to the mix.

*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!

Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?

It's not just water retention; it's to do with hormone fluctuation, etc.
You may choose to disbelieve us, but that is your privilege.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/health/0...d01-197825.htm

I do not "disbelieve", as such, I want to see some evidence. So many
things are said without evidence, that it only makes sense to ask for
it.

Thanks for the article, I will read it. It seems to say that men have
higher BMR (``In a preliminary study recently conducted on 76 Beaumont
patients who were morbidly obese (a 5-foot-8 person who weighs 310
pounds, for example), the men burned 13.6 calories per minute at their
peak exercise level, while the women burned 10.5 calories per
minute.'').

Besides that, would a man with a 500 calorie per day deficit lose
faster than a woman with a 500 calorie per day deficit?

i

Possibly not, but it would be much easier for a man to obtain a 500 calorie
deficit - thus the "painless" weight loss that some men have been able to
report.

Jenn

"Ignoramus29728" wrote in message
...
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:
Ignoramus29728 wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:
JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:

Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more
in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to
their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as
fast or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that
adds its
own difficulties to the mix.

*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!

Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?

It's not just water retention; it's to do with hormone fluctuation, etc.
You may choose to disbelieve us, but that is your privilege.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/health/0...d01-197825.htm

I do not "disbelieve", as such, I want to see some evidence. So many
things are said without evidence, that it only makes sense to ask for
it.

Thanks for the article, I will read it. It seems to say that men have
higher BMR (``In a preliminary study recently conducted on 76 Beaumont
patients who were morbidly obese (a 5-foot-8 person who weighs 310
pounds, for example), the men burned 13.6 calories per minute at their
peak exercise level, while the women burned 10.5 calories per
minute.'').

Besides that, would a man with a 500 calorie per day deficit lose
faster than a woman with a 500 calorie per day deficit?

i

Possibly not, but it would be much easier for a man to obtain a 500 calorie
deficit - thus the "painless" weight loss that some men have been able to
report.

Jenn

"Rob" wrote in message
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JMA wrote:

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Plus, women have hormone issues - Jenn

... and men have more stress since we're forced to prepare and correctly
react to womens hormone issues -

duck & sprint

Umm, dude, you know what PMS *really* stands for right? Putting up with
Men's S***

"Rob" wrote in message
...
JMA wrote:

snip


Plus, women have hormone issues - Jenn

... and men have more stress since we're forced to prepare and correctly
react to womens hormone issues -

duck & sprint

Umm, dude, you know what PMS *really* stands for right? Putting up with
Men's S***