Another Queston: Children (Toddlers) and Low-Carb

Hi Sam,
Please don't put your 3 year old on any kind of diet, especially low carb,
without talking to your pediatrician! Children this age are still growing
and need a variety of foods. Now, for an explanation of foods, lollypops are
not food! My daughter just turned 3 also and she gets a lollypop maybe 2-3
times a week. Yesterday she got one when we went to the bank drive thru. She
considers it a special treat. We also consider applesauce, fruits of any
kind good as a sweet with meals or as dessert. Jello with fruit floating
around in it is a very special sweet. She does have plenty of fruit,
veggies, bread, pasta, loves meat but especially seafood and begs for
"pickles" sliced cucumbers. Make your daughter's meals special and she won't
be replacing a flagpole salad or a "tossed" salad with junk.

Flagpole salad

1 slice pineapple
1/2 small banana
1 maraschino cherry
toothpick

Place the pineapple slice on a small saucer, stand the half banana up in the
center, top with cherry held on by toothpick, serve to smiling child. Put
the juice from the pineapple into plastic Popsicle forms and freeze.

"Tossed" salad

Place about 3-4 tiny carrots, 2-3 small strips celery, 3 or so cherry
tomatoes, a few cucumber slices in a colorful circle on a saucer. Put a
small amount of salad dressing (ranch is great) and let your child dip. I
have a special blue tiny custard cup that I use.

Here are some other tips for toddler food enjoyment. Get some of those small
animal style paper plates at Wal-Mart. They have a little space for dip or
catsup or applesauce. Make the latter really interesting by adding a few
colorful sprinkles on top. I always buy unsweetened sauce so the bit of
sugar stuff on top is negligible. Take your toddler shopping with you...to a
fruit and vegetable market. We just found a new one yesterday that also has
some goats in the back that you can feed. We had loads of fun and came home
with one green apple (daughter's choice) some tiny bananas just for her,
Vidalia onion, fresh firm and unwaxed cucumbers, bright read tomatoes and
fresh garlic. Most often I avoid the cookie/candy isle at the supermarket
but they sabotage me at the checkout so I know how hard it is to say "no"
and I don't do it all the time. I do try to get her interested in stuff that
lasts awhile like Gummibears or Lifesavers.

One thing I do not believe is a good idea is giving her artificial
sweeteners. She has had a bit of Splenda but everything else is a "no-no".
Oh, another hint for food for toddlers, when you make meat loaf or
hamburgers, save her portion and make tiny meatballs or a tiny loaf just for
her. Cut sandwiches in triangles one day and squares the next, good teaching
tool. I have also been known to make a happy face with ketchup on a flat
round burger. We also just got an ice shaver that makes great fun desserts
for us. She gets kool aid on hers, I get coffee and cream (Splenda) on mine.

Sheesh, been a mom a long time, I could write a book! FTR, my baby is 38
inches tall, 35 pounds, very healthy and energetic. I don't keep sugar away
from her but I do choose to limit it and use sweet foods like fruit. Why not
help with the grocery shopping or take your child to a fresh food market on
the weekend? It's fun!!

Nancy J
209/167/145


"Default User" wrote in message
...
I am also on a Low-Carb but more of my own diet, as I start out with
Atkins
Induction and OWL. My wife just moved to Atkins. We have a 3 year old
who
loves sweets and have a very difficult time denying her. I argue with my
wife not to buy these but we both usually give in when shopping and by her
stuff. Yesterday she had two lollipops for breakfast and an ice-pop for
lunch even though she ate some of her lunch. I feel like I just want to
throw everything that contains sugar into the trash but my wife insist on
not doing this. Hopefully she'll change now that she trying Atkins. Do
you
think to have a toddler on a low-carb diet is bad for them? I'd like to
eventually move my daughter more and more towards low carb meals.

Thanks in advance.

Sam

Good post, Nancy. You've described exactly the kind of "down-home" common
sense approach to feeding your toddler that we all should apply.

Best regards to a great mom,
DustyB
... snipped, except for items well worth repeating...

"Nancy Huffines" wrote in message
.. .
....
Flagpole salad

1 slice pineapple
1/2 small banana
1 maraschino cherry
toothpick

Place the pineapple slice on a small saucer, stand the half banana up in
the
center, top with cherry held on by toothpick, serve to smiling child. Put
the juice from the pineapple into plastic Popsicle forms and freeze.

"Tossed" salad

Place about 3-4 tiny carrots, 2-3 small strips celery, 3 or so cherry
tomatoes, a few cucumber slices in a colorful circle on a saucer. Put a
small amount of salad dressing (ranch is great) and let your child dip. I
have a special blue tiny custard cup that I use.
....
One thing I do not believe is a good idea is giving her artificial
sweeteners. She has had a bit of Splenda but everything else is a "no-no".
....
Nancy J
209/167/145
....

Flagpole salad

1 slice pineapple
1/2 small banana
1 maraschino cherry
toothpick

Place the pineapple slice on a small saucer, stand the half banana up in the
center, top with cherry held on by toothpick, serve to smiling child. Put
the juice from the pineapple into plastic Popsicle forms and freeze.
the weekend? It's fun!!

Nancy J
209/167/145



Watch out for that toothpick. Toothpicks and small children do not go
together.

My sister in law has her almost 8 yr old girl ( 110 lbs thanks to ex hubby
giving her what ever she wants) and her self on LC during the day and at
night they eat a normal meal etc. within an hour and then they are done for
the day. Sis lost 15/ Child lost 10 lbs in 3 months but visited dad and
gained 5 in one week!
Now they live down here about 9 hrs away from dad, hopefully this now
borderline diabetic child will be able to continue getting healthy. ( Doctor
advised)


--
April Blues
was 197/gained from 144-now163 /next goal 140
Started Low Carb on Jan 18th, 2001
www.candle.safewebshop.com

Those are some great ideas. My son likes to have hotdog octopusses. you
just slice half of the hotdog into eight "legs" and stand it on the plate
).just kinda fun

Misty
"Nancy Huffines" wrote in message
.. .
Hi Sam,
Please don't put your 3 year old on any kind of diet, especially low carb,
without talking to your pediatrician! Children this age are still growing
and need a variety of foods. Now, for an explanation of foods, lollypops
are
not food! My daughter just turned 3 also and she gets a lollypop maybe 2-3
times a week. Yesterday she got one when we went to the bank drive thru.
She
considers it a special treat. We also consider applesauce, fruits of any
kind good as a sweet with meals or as dessert. Jello with fruit floating
around in it is a very special sweet. She does have plenty of fruit,
veggies, bread, pasta, loves meat but especially seafood and begs for
"pickles" sliced cucumbers. Make your daughter's meals special and she
won't
be replacing a flagpole salad or a "tossed" salad with junk.

Flagpole salad

1 slice pineapple
1/2 small banana
1 maraschino cherry
toothpick

Place the pineapple slice on a small saucer, stand the half banana up in
the
center, top with cherry held on by toothpick, serve to smiling child. Put
the juice from the pineapple into plastic Popsicle forms and freeze.

"Tossed" salad

Place about 3-4 tiny carrots, 2-3 small strips celery, 3 or so cherry
tomatoes, a few cucumber slices in a colorful circle on a saucer. Put a
small amount of salad dressing (ranch is great) and let your child dip. I
have a special blue tiny custard cup that I use.

Here are some other tips for toddler food enjoyment. Get some of those
small
animal style paper plates at Wal-Mart. They have a little space for dip or
catsup or applesauce. Make the latter really interesting by adding a few
colorful sprinkles on top. I always buy unsweetened sauce so the bit of
sugar stuff on top is negligible. Take your toddler shopping with you...to
a
fruit and vegetable market. We just found a new one yesterday that also
has
some goats in the back that you can feed. We had loads of fun and came
home
with one green apple (daughter's choice) some tiny bananas just for her,
Vidalia onion, fresh firm and unwaxed cucumbers, bright read tomatoes and
fresh garlic. Most often I avoid the cookie/candy isle at the supermarket
but they sabotage me at the checkout so I know how hard it is to say "no"
and I don't do it all the time. I do try to get her interested in stuff
that
lasts awhile like Gummibears or Lifesavers.

One thing I do not believe is a good idea is giving her artificial
sweeteners. She has had a bit of Splenda but everything else is a "no-no".
Oh, another hint for food for toddlers, when you make meat loaf or
hamburgers, save her portion and make tiny meatballs or a tiny loaf just
for
her. Cut sandwiches in triangles one day and squares the next, good
teaching
tool. I have also been known to make a happy face with ketchup on a flat
round burger. We also just got an ice shaver that makes great fun desserts
for us. She gets kool aid on hers, I get coffee and cream (Splenda) on
mine.

Sheesh, been a mom a long time, I could write a book! FTR, my baby is 38
inches tall, 35 pounds, very healthy and energetic. I don't keep sugar
away
from her but I do choose to limit it and use sweet foods like fruit. Why
not
help with the grocery shopping or take your child to a fresh food market
on
the weekend? It's fun!!

Nancy J
209/167/145


"Default User" wrote in message
...
I am also on a Low-Carb but more of my own diet, as I start out with
Atkins
Induction and OWL. My wife just moved to Atkins. We have a 3 year old
who
loves sweets and have a very difficult time denying her. I argue with
my
wife not to buy these but we both usually give in when shopping and by
her
stuff. Yesterday she had two lollipops for breakfast and an ice-pop for
lunch even though she ate some of her lunch. I feel like I just want to
throw everything that contains sugar into the trash but my wife insist
on
not doing this. Hopefully she'll change now that she trying Atkins. Do
you
think to have a toddler on a low-carb diet is bad for them? I'd like to
eventually move my daughter more and more towards low carb meals.

Thanks in advance.

Sam

Thanks for the great idea Misty! I just got some hot dogs yesterday)

Nancy J

"Misty" wrote in message
news:exbbb.534431$o%2.234094@sccrnsc02...
Those are some great ideas. My son likes to have hotdog octopusses. you
just slice half of the hotdog into eight "legs" and stand it on the plate
).just kinda fun

Misty
"Nancy Huffines" wrote in message
.. .
Hi Sam,
Please don't put your 3 year old on any kind of diet, especially low
carb,
without talking to your pediatrician! Children this age are still
growing
and need a variety of foods. Now, for an explanation of foods, lollypops
are
not food! My daughter just turned 3 also and she gets a lollypop maybe
2-3
times a week. Yesterday she got one when we went to the bank drive thru.
She
considers it a special treat. We also consider applesauce, fruits of any
kind good as a sweet with meals or as dessert. Jello with fruit floating
around in it is a very special sweet. She does have plenty of fruit,
veggies, bread, pasta, loves meat but especially seafood and begs for
"pickles" sliced cucumbers. Make your daughter's meals special and she
won't
be replacing a flagpole salad or a "tossed" salad with junk.

Flagpole salad

1 slice pineapple
1/2 small banana
1 maraschino cherry
toothpick

Place the pineapple slice on a small saucer, stand the half banana up in
the
center, top with cherry held on by toothpick, serve to smiling child.
Put
the juice from the pineapple into plastic Popsicle forms and freeze.

"Tossed" salad

Place about 3-4 tiny carrots, 2-3 small strips celery, 3 or so cherry
tomatoes, a few cucumber slices in a colorful circle on a saucer. Put a
small amount of salad dressing (ranch is great) and let your child dip.
I
have a special blue tiny custard cup that I use.

Here are some other tips for toddler food enjoyment. Get some of those
small
animal style paper plates at Wal-Mart. They have a little space for dip
or
catsup or applesauce. Make the latter really interesting by adding a few
colorful sprinkles on top. I always buy unsweetened sauce so the bit of
sugar stuff on top is negligible. Take your toddler shopping with
you...to
a
fruit and vegetable market. We just found a new one yesterday that also
has
some goats in the back that you can feed. We had loads of fun and came
home
with one green apple (daughter's choice) some tiny bananas just for her,
Vidalia onion, fresh firm and unwaxed cucumbers, bright read tomatoes
and
fresh garlic. Most often I avoid the cookie/candy isle at the
supermarket
but they sabotage me at the checkout so I know how hard it is to say
"no"
and I don't do it all the time. I do try to get her interested in stuff
that
lasts awhile like Gummibears or Lifesavers.

One thing I do not believe is a good idea is giving her artificial
sweeteners. She has had a bit of Splenda but everything else is a
"no-no".
Oh, another hint for food for toddlers, when you make meat loaf or
hamburgers, save her portion and make tiny meatballs or a tiny loaf just
for
her. Cut sandwiches in triangles one day and squares the next, good
teaching
tool. I have also been known to make a happy face with ketchup on a flat
round burger. We also just got an ice shaver that makes great fun
desserts
for us. She gets kool aid on hers, I get coffee and cream (Splenda) on
mine.

Sheesh, been a mom a long time, I could write a book! FTR, my baby is 38
inches tall, 35 pounds, very healthy and energetic. I don't keep sugar
away
from her but I do choose to limit it and use sweet foods like fruit. Why
not
help with the grocery shopping or take your child to a fresh food market
on
the weekend? It's fun!!

Nancy J
209/167/145


"Default User" wrote in message
...
I am also on a Low-Carb but more of my own diet, as I start out with
Atkins
Induction and OWL. My wife just moved to Atkins. We have a 3 year
old
who
loves sweets and have a very difficult time denying her. I argue with
my
wife not to buy these but we both usually give in when shopping and by
her
stuff. Yesterday she had two lollipops for breakfast and an ice-pop
for
lunch even though she ate some of her lunch. I feel like I just want
to
throw everything that contains sugar into the trash but my wife insist
on
not doing this. Hopefully she'll change now that she trying Atkins.
Do
you
think to have a toddler on a low-carb diet is bad for them? I'd like
to
eventually move my daughter more and more towards low carb meals.

Thanks in advance.

Sam

"Nancy Huffines" wrote in message ...
Hi Sam,
Please don't put your 3 year old on any kind of diet, especially low carb,
without talking to your pediatrician! Children this age are still growing
and need a variety of foods. Now, for an explanation of foods, lollypops are
not food! My daughter just turned 3 also and she gets a lollypop maybe 2-3
times a week. Yesterday she got one when we went to the bank drive thru. She
considers it a special treat. We also consider applesauce, fruits of any
kind good as a sweet with meals or as dessert. Jello with fruit floating
around in it is a very special sweet. She does have plenty of fruit,
veggies, bread, pasta, loves meat but especially seafood and begs for
"pickles" sliced cucumbers. Make your daughter's meals special and she won't
be replacing a flagpole salad or a "tossed" salad with junk.

That's the kind of crap that makes kids fat, and I'm not talking about
the occasional treats, but your flagpole salad, bread, pasta, etc.

Flagpole salad

1 slice pineapple
1/2 small banana
1 maraschino cherry
toothpick

Place the pineapple slice on a small saucer, stand the half banana up in the
center, top with cherry held on by toothpick, serve to smiling child. Put
the juice from the pineapple into plastic Popsicle forms and freeze.

What NG do you think this is?

"Tossed" salad

Place about 3-4 tiny carrots, 2-3 small strips celery, 3 or so cherry
tomatoes, a few cucumber slices in a colorful circle on a saucer. Put a
small amount of salad dressing (ranch is great) and let your child dip. I
have a special blue tiny custard cup that I use.

Here are some other tips for toddler food enjoyment. Get some of those small
animal style paper plates at Wal-Mart. They have a little space for dip or
catsup or applesauce. Make the latter really interesting by adding a few
colorful sprinkles on top. I always buy unsweetened sauce so the bit of
sugar stuff on top is negligible. Take your toddler shopping with you...to a
fruit and vegetable market. We just found a new one yesterday that also has
some goats in the back that you can feed. We had loads of fun and came home
with one green apple (daughter's choice) some tiny bananas just for her,
Vidalia onion, fresh firm and unwaxed cucumbers, bright read tomatoes and
fresh garlic. Most often I avoid the cookie/candy isle at the supermarket
but they sabotage me at the checkout so I know how hard it is to say "no"
and I don't do it all the time. I do try to get her interested in stuff that
lasts awhile like Gummibears or Lifesavers.

I don't believe you are a troll. Instead you just seem clueless.

One thing I do not believe is a good idea is giving her artificial
sweeteners. She has had a bit of Splenda but everything else is a "no-no".
Oh, another hint for food for toddlers, when you make meat loaf or
hamburgers, save her portion and make tiny meatballs or a tiny loaf just for
her. Cut sandwiches in triangles one day and squares the next, good teaching
tool. I have also been known to make a happy face with ketchup on a flat
round burger. We also just got an ice shaver that makes great fun desserts
for us. She gets kool aid on hers, I get coffee and cream (Splenda) on mine.

Ketchup. Yeah, that's a smart thing to give a kid. Sheesh.

Sheesh, been a mom a long time, I could write a book! FTR, my baby is 38
inches tall, 35 pounds, very healthy and energetic. I don't keep sugar away
from her but I do choose to limit it and use sweet foods like fruit. Why not
help with the grocery shopping or take your child to a fresh food market on
the weekend? It's fun!!

Obviously she has the genes for ending up fat. You feed her all of
that carby garbage, she develops fat cells. She ends up fat like dear
old mom.

Nancy J
209/167/145


"Default User" wrote in message
...

think to have a toddler on a low-carb diet is bad for them? I'd like to
eventually move my daughter more and more towards low carb meals.

Thanks in advance.

My 22 month old gets very little bread, no rice or pasta, no white
potatoes, no fruit juice, no sugar except if it is in a pastry that
his mother shares with him (or in something like cake or ice cream).
We make sure he gets lots of fat and we let him choose his own level
of protein by making protein always available. Nancy, above, is
giving bad advice.

Sam

--Bryan 198/152/155

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:54:57 GMT, "Russell & April"
wrote:


My sister in law has her almost 8 yr old girl ( 110 lbs thanks to ex hubby
giving her what ever she wants) and her self on LC during the day and at
night they eat a normal meal etc. within an hour and then they are done for
the day. Sis lost 15/ Child lost 10 lbs in 3 months but visited dad and
gained 5 in one week!
Now they live down here about 9 hrs away from dad, hopefully this now
borderline diabetic child will be able to continue getting healthy. ( Doctor
advised)

You would think that her father knowing his daughter
is a borderline diabetic would be more concerned about her health.

Ms.Jaime
(who quit smoking 10 years ago today...Sept 22)

Not remotely wanting to side with the recent troll, who seemed more
chimp than bonobos - aren't bonobos the peaceful ones? - but Nancy's
suggestions do strike me as pretty high in sugar, all told. It's the
heavy use of condiments and sodas that worry me - not in themselves, but
in that they are bound to encourage a taste for these things.

I say this not to criticise her, but I suppose to think through our
assumptions about children's food. We are so prone to think that
they'll fall down dead without any this or that. I thought it might
encourage people to follow their own ideas (rather than the ideas of
commerce) if I posted a bit. Not that I'm smug - or I hope not - I'm
sure others will have useful tips for me, and we still have some way to
go in managing the right food for our dear ones, but so far they are
well and we are blessed.

We NEVER buy any of the following: store cookies, cakes, biscuits, or
sweets. They and we drink water at meals and between meals, though my
daughter still has a cup of milk, prob. about 2 fl oz, on waking (she is
three). They and we never drink juice or soda of any kind. They never
eat ketchup or any kind of sauce except what is integral to a meal (eg
game stew, one of their favourite things), and in fact loathe it. We
are on our last-ever carton of commercial sorbet, having learned to make
our own (it was redcurrant slush, and it was great - recipe in Nigella
Lawson's Forever Summer; we also did passinfruit, which I fear is
carbier!). My children don't like or eat chocolate. They don't eat ice
lollies. The fruit they like best is fairly low-glycemic stuff -
berries, kiwis, citrus, grapes, and in season stone fruit. They also
eat no processed foods - no ready-made burgers, pizza, nuggets or fish
fingers. if there's pizza, I make it from scratch with wholegrain flour
and fresh meat, cheese and veggies. Ditto burgers. come winter I'm
going to make Oxford sausages too.

They do eat bread, but it's always organic wholegrain or lowcarb bread I
make. They also eat pasta sometimes, which is starting to worry me a
bit. They also really like fish, meat - especially lamb - organic
sausages (we are lucky in our local butcher), eggs (always organic), and
cheese. They eat vegetable soups, too, and salad with every meal.
Pudding is either yoghurt (full-fat, Greek) with berries or fruit, or
sorbet (homemade with sweetener). We are experimenting with lowcarb,
sugar-free icecream. Every now and then in winter we have a fruit
crumble with custard or cream.

On birthdays and namedays they have a cake, and every now and then
(which means about once every couple of months) I make them buckwheat
pancakes or porridge as a treat, but mostly they have eggs and bacon
with mushrooms and grilled tomato for breakfast. If they say they want
something sugary in eg a shop, the answer is always no, so they hardly
ever ask.

I find all this fairly trouble-free, right up to the moment when their
friends come round and demand McCain's pizza and chicken dinosaurs... or
when my son goes to their houses, is offered same, and loathes same. We
are not perfect, but (and okay I know how hateful I am, prig me, ergh) I
don't know how others can give it all so little thought. These are rich
people, mind, with much newer cars than ours.
--
Jane Lumley

"Default User" wrote in message
...
I am also on a Low-Carb but more of my own diet, as I start out with
Atkins
Induction and OWL. My wife just moved to Atkins. We have a 3 year old
who
loves sweets and have a very difficult time denying her. I argue with my
wife not to buy these but we both usually give in when shopping and by her
stuff. Yesterday she had two lollipops for breakfast and an ice-pop for
lunch even though she ate some of her lunch. I feel like I just want to
throw everything that contains sugar into the trash but my wife insist on
not doing this.


Real food should always come before sweets and snacks, but for the occasions
when you do wish to let your child have something sweet, this website has an
excellent selection of sugar-free candy, including lollipops, gummy bears,
gum balls, chocolate, and just about anything else a kid could want.
www.economycandy.com

Some people seem to think sweets and childhood just go hand in hand. As a
compromise between all or nothing, perhaps your wife would feel better about
not getting the sugary stuff at the store if you already have some
sugar-free stuff at home. And I agree with the other posters that a child
who relentlessly asks for things at the store should be left home,
especially if the parent has a hard time standing firm. Most kids love
going to the store, so after behind left behind a few times, she will likely
tone down considerably.

My three-year-old isn't exactly low-carb, but she eats considerably fewer
carbs than most kids. She rarely eats sugar or refined flour products. Her
diet consists almost entirely of meat, huge
quantities of vegetables, milk, a few whole grains, and all the fruit she
wants (not juice). She has bread maybe a couple of times a month. She is
so unused to it that on the occasions when we get a fast food hamburger, she
looks at the bun like, "What's this?" tosses it aside, and eats the plain
patty. She does sometimes have sugar-free candy, but not every day.
Usually when she wants something sweet, I give her fruit. She has eaten
this way since she began solid food.

She had her annual checkup today. She is lean, strong, and very healthy.
So I would say a lower-carb diet is excellent for children.

Reb

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