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Old August 4th, 2006, 03:53 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Debbie
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Hi All,
I have been reading this group for a coupla years and only posted a few
times.

I was wondering if you could *kindly* tell me what you have heard about
Gastric Bypass.

This is not a flame or bash against WW -- just curious.

Thanks, Debbie


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Old August 4th, 2006, 04:26 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Gary G
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The statistics are not very good...There are many additional medical issues
which can occur...I also personally feel that although surgery can initially
be very successful,...without making the mental changes which many here can
attest to the odds of long term failure remain...I had been told by my
Doctor that if something didn't change I should consider the
surgery...Fortunately I went to WW and so far I have been very
successful...I wish you luck in making your decision...I may have done it
myself...For me Doctors have never been on my favorites list (guy
thing?)..Anyway,...just one mans opinion...GG
"Debbie" wrote in message
news:rEyAg.10294$j9.3379@trnddc02...
Hi All,
I have been reading this group for a coupla years and only posted a few
times.

I was wondering if you could *kindly* tell me what you have heard about
Gastric Bypass.

This is not a flame or bash against WW -- just curious.

Thanks, Debbie



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Old August 4th, 2006, 04:54 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Debbie
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Default Gastric Bypass

Thanks Gary.

I was debating it, but after getting on the web and seeing some of the
risks, I'm not so sure I shouldn't give WW a decent try. I've lost 30-40 pds
on WW at home a coupla times by myself, but always put it back on.

I'm 5"5" and 205 pds. I was wondering if over time these gastric ppl end up
putting the weight back on if they don't change their eating habits. Cause
the pouch can stretch back out. Cause if I have to watch everything I eat
and exercise anyway, I might as well just do WW and skip the chance of death
and/or dumping and not being able to eat sweets anymore. LOL.

Can I ask what you started at and how much you weigh now?

Debbie



The statistics are not very good...There are many additional medical
issues which can occur...I also personally feel that although surgery can
initially be very successful,...without making the mental changes which
many here can attest to the odds of long term failure remain...I had been
told by my Doctor that if something didn't change I should consider the
surgery...Fortunately I went to WW and so far I have been very
successful...I wish you luck in making your decision...I may have done it
myself...For me Doctors have never been on my favorites list (guy
thing?)..Anyway,...just one mans opinion...GG



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Old August 4th, 2006, 05:10 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Gary G
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I started at 291 and I'm 5'8''...I've lost 69 lbs since December
21,..2005...I was at one time 333 lbs...I have tried every diet you can
imagine...For me it's been a lifetime of weight issues...I honestly don't
know why I seem to have gotten a handle on it...It is my first attempt at
WW...I don't believe that WW is any miracle...It teaches control and helps
me to better understand my problems...Although I sometimes find the meetings
rather hokey I truly look forward to them...Being able to talk to others who
suffer from weight issues is helpful...Welcome aboard...GG

"Debbie" wrote in message
news:_xzAg.9752$jt.2773@trnddc04...
Thanks Gary.

I was debating it, but after getting on the web and seeing some of the
risks, I'm not so sure I shouldn't give WW a decent try. I've lost 30-40
pds on WW at home a coupla times by myself, but always put it back on.

I'm 5"5" and 205 pds. I was wondering if over time these gastric ppl end
up putting the weight back on if they don't change their eating habits.
Cause the pouch can stretch back out. Cause if I have to watch everything
I eat and exercise anyway, I might as well just do WW and skip the chance
of death and/or dumping and not being able to eat sweets anymore. LOL.

Can I ask what you started at and how much you weigh now?

Debbie



The statistics are not very good...There are many additional medical
issues which can occur...I also personally feel that although surgery can
initially be very successful,...without making the mental changes which
many here can attest to the odds of long term failure remain...I had been
told by my Doctor that if something didn't change I should consider the
surgery...Fortunately I went to WW and so far I have been very
successful...I wish you luck in making your decision...I may have done it
myself...For me Doctors have never been on my favorites list (guy
thing?)..Anyway,...just one mans opinion...GG





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Old August 4th, 2006, 05:15 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Nunya B.
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"Debbie" wrote in message
news:_xzAg.9752$jt.2773@trnddc04...
Thanks Gary.

I was debating it, but after getting on the web and seeing some of the
risks, I'm not so sure I shouldn't give WW a decent try. I've lost 30-40
pds on WW at home a coupla times by myself, but always put it back on.

I'm 5"5" and 205 pds. I was wondering if over time these gastric ppl end
up putting the weight back on if they don't change their eating habits.
Cause the pouch can stretch back out. Cause if I have to watch everything
I eat and exercise anyway, I might as well just do WW and skip the chance
of death and/or dumping and not being able to eat sweets anymore. LOL.


Good idea. GP has not turned out to be the magic bullet everyone had hoped
and patients who did not make the necessary mental, lifestyle, and attitude
changes are gaining weight just as easily as before the surgery.

BTW, I believe you wouldn't qualify for the surgery because you need to have
a BMI of 40, or so I thought. I could be wrong, it's happened before

Can I ask what you started at and how much you weigh now?


I'm not the person you were replying to but I'm 5'5" and my highest recorded
weight was 317. I lost more than half that and have kept off most of the
weight for 3 years now. I use WW to keep from gaining it all back as I've
done in the past on other diets. With the flex points and the ability to
earn AP's I don't find the plan all that difficult to follow. I can admit
I'm not always faithful to the journaling but I don't stray too far or too
long.
--
the volleyballchick


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Old August 4th, 2006, 05:24 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Debbie
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Default Gastric Bypass

Good idea. GP has not turned out to be the magic bullet everyone had hoped
and patients who did not make the necessary mental, lifestyle, and
attitude changes are gaining weight just as easily as before the surgery.

BTW, I believe you wouldn't qualify for the surgery because you need to
have a BMI of 40, or so I thought. I could be wrong, it's happened before


Can I ask what you started at and how much you weigh now?


I'm not the person you were replying to but I'm 5'5" and my highest
recorded weight was 317. I lost more than half that and have kept off
most of the weight for 3 years now. I use WW to keep from gaining it all
back as I've done in the past on other diets. With the flex points and
the ability to earn AP's I don't find the plan all that difficult to
follow. I can admit I'm not always faithful to the journaling but I don't
stray too far or too long.
--
the volleyballchick

You can have a BMI of 35-50 with co-morbities, i.e. High Blood Pressure,
sleep apnea and it helps if you have a documented five year history of
keeping it off. I was all high on it when I called and talked to a lady
about it and she said they do ppl my size all the time. But then when I went
to the websites I found ppl that were struggling to not gain 20-30 pds back
after 4 or 5 years (which they still lost signifant amounts). I don't know
anybody personally that has had it done though, so I don't know.

You've kept off 150 for 3 years? Aren't you hungry all the time? Is there
a lot of ppl in here who have lost like 75 pds and kept if off for years and
years?

thx volleyball chick


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Old August 4th, 2006, 05:42 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Nunya B.
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Default Gastric Bypass


"Debbie" wrote in message
news:9_zAg.8795$zV6.6134@trnddc03...
Good idea. GP has not turned out to be the magic bullet everyone had
hoped and patients who did not make the necessary mental, lifestyle, and
attitude changes are gaining weight just as easily as before the surgery.

BTW, I believe you wouldn't qualify for the surgery because you need to
have a BMI of 40, or so I thought. I could be wrong, it's happened
before

Can I ask what you started at and how much you weigh now?


I'm not the person you were replying to but I'm 5'5" and my highest
recorded weight was 317. I lost more than half that and have kept off
most of the weight for 3 years now. I use WW to keep from gaining it all
back as I've done in the past on other diets. With the flex points and
the ability to earn AP's I don't find the plan all that difficult to
follow. I can admit I'm not always faithful to the journaling but I
don't stray too far or too long.
--
the volleyballchick

You can have a BMI of 35-50 with co-morbities, i.e. High Blood Pressure,
sleep apnea and it helps if you have a documented five year history of
keeping it off. I was all high on it when I called and talked to a lady
about it and she said they do ppl my size all the time. But then when I
went to the websites I found ppl that were struggling to not gain 20-30
pds back after 4 or 5 years (which they still lost signifant amounts). I
don't know anybody personally that has had it done though, so I don't
know.

You've kept off 150 for 3 years? Aren't you hungry all the time? Is
there a lot of ppl in here who have lost like 75 pds and kept if off for
years and years?

thx volleyball chick


Yes, there are some long term success stories in this particular group and
they help inspire me to keep on keeping on.

Over the last 3 years my weight has fluctuated greatly but I've continually
kept off more than half the weight I lost though hard work. I've also had to
deal with a lifelong eating disorder. I'm no longer "hungry" all of the
time because I learned to recognize what it's like to really be hungry. I've
also learned how to prevent it (eating frequent small meals is what works
for me).

I was overweight all of my life and had to learn how to live like a slender
person. Exercise helps. I started by going to Curves and walking regularly
and ended up doing powerlifting and running 5K races. I got it into my head
that all of the good tasting food isn't going anywhere so I don't have to
eat it all at once. I eat it as often as I want but limit the quantity.

WW is a great plan for learning portion control and choosing healthier foods
over no so healthy ones. Food high in fiber and lower in fat has lower point
values so if you're into volume you can eat plenty of it. A recently
published study showed that people who ate higher fiber and lower fat foods
tended to eat more in quantity but less in overall calorie value and in the
end it's the calories that count! And of course if you get into doing
exercise you earn activity points that let you get away with eating a little
more.

Keep on reading the posts in this group. You'll find motivation and good
advice. I also find the communities on the WW web site a good help too.
--
the volleyballchick


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Old August 4th, 2006, 05:43 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Nunya B.
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Default Gastric Bypass

What he said...
--
the volleyballchick

"Gary G" wrote in message
...
I started at 291 and I'm 5'8''...I've lost 69 lbs since December
21,..2005...I was at one time 333 lbs...I have tried every diet you can
imagine...For me it's been a lifetime of weight issues...I honestly don't
know why I seem to have gotten a handle on it...It is my first attempt at
WW...I don't believe that WW is any miracle...It teaches control and helps
me to better understand my problems...Although I sometimes find the
meetings rather hokey I truly look forward to them...Being able to talk to
others who suffer from weight issues is helpful...Welcome aboard...GG

"Debbie" wrote in message
news:_xzAg.9752$jt.2773@trnddc04...
Thanks Gary.

I was debating it, but after getting on the web and seeing some of the
risks, I'm not so sure I shouldn't give WW a decent try. I've lost 30-40
pds on WW at home a coupla times by myself, but always put it back on.

I'm 5"5" and 205 pds. I was wondering if over time these gastric ppl end
up putting the weight back on if they don't change their eating habits.
Cause the pouch can stretch back out. Cause if I have to watch everything
I eat and exercise anyway, I might as well just do WW and skip the chance
of death and/or dumping and not being able to eat sweets anymore. LOL.

Can I ask what you started at and how much you weigh now?

Debbie



The statistics are not very good...There are many additional medical
issues which can occur...I also personally feel that although surgery
can initially be very successful,...without making the mental changes
which many here can attest to the odds of long term failure remain...I
had been told by my Doctor that if something didn't change I should
consider the surgery...Fortunately I went to WW and so far I have been
very successful...I wish you luck in making your decision...I may have
done it myself...For me Doctors have never been on my favorites list
(guy thing?)..Anyway,...just one mans opinion...GG







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Old August 4th, 2006, 11:41 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
lesanne
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Debbie:
I will go you one better than that and tell you what I have seen personally with gastric bypass. The most recent example was a woman who has been a dear friend of mine for years. She has battled her weight for as long as I have known her. The selling point for GBS as opposed to general lifestyle change is that it supposedly reduces the hunger people feel, and increases the feeling of fullness people get after eating smaller portions of food.
If a person is eating when they are not hungry already, this is not an advantage if you think about it logically. If you are overeating, you are almost certainly eating when not physiologically hungry. GBS is like cutting off both your hands to quit smoking. It is only effective if it stops the smoking long enough for a person to get over the bad cravings before they figure out how to smoke using their feet. If you remove the ability to overeat from a person who eats for emotional reasons, that person can either deal with the emotional reasons or find other ways to overeat. My friend is sucking on some high calorie drink or other all the time, has lost a total of about 30 pounds in the last year, and is still morbidly obese. The other two people I personally know who had GBS ? One is an alcoholic (thin and very very sick) the other is near a normal weight and has gone through some major lifestyle change and therapy similar to what I did to lose the 200 pounds I lost WITHOUT surgery. He eats pretty much like I do. I would suggest getting the diet you will have to follow after the surgery and going on that for a while. It is what you will have to do anyway. Then after four or five months on that decide if you want to permanently damage your body. I also suggest you get help with whatever it is that causes you to reach for food when you are not hungry. I know, I am not asking you to do something "easy". Those people pushing GBS aren't either, they are just salespeople.

--
Les
"Debbie" wrote in message news:rEyAg.10294$j9.3379@trnddc02...
Hi All,
I have been reading this group for a coupla years and only posted a few
times.

I was wondering if you could *kindly* tell me what you have heard about
Gastric Bypass.

This is not a flame or bash against WW -- just curious.

Thanks, Debbie


  #10  
Old August 4th, 2006, 11:43 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
lesanne
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I have lost 200 and kept it off for nearly three years.

--
Leslie Arnim

"Debbie" wrote in message news:9_zAg.8795$zV6.6134@trnddc03...
Good idea. GP has not turned out to be the magic bullet everyone had hoped
and patients who did not make the necessary mental, lifestyle, and
attitude changes are gaining weight just as easily as before the surgery.

BTW, I believe you wouldn't qualify for the surgery because you need to
have a BMI of 40, or so I thought. I could be wrong, it's happened before


Can I ask what you started at and how much you weigh now?


I'm not the person you were replying to but I'm 5'5" and my highest
recorded weight was 317. I lost more than half that and have kept off
most of the weight for 3 years now. I use WW to keep from gaining it all
back as I've done in the past on other diets. With the flex points and
the ability to earn AP's I don't find the plan all that difficult to
follow. I can admit I'm not always faithful to the journaling but I don't
stray too far or too long.
--
the volleyballchick

You can have a BMI of 35-50 with co-morbities, i.e. High Blood Pressure,
sleep apnea and it helps if you have a documented five year history of
keeping it off. I was all high on it when I called and talked to a lady
about it and she said they do ppl my size all the time. But then when I went
to the websites I found ppl that were struggling to not gain 20-30 pds back
after 4 or 5 years (which they still lost signifant amounts). I don't know
anybody personally that has had it done though, so I don't know.

You've kept off 150 for 3 years? Aren't you hungry all the time? Is there
a lot of ppl in here who have lost like 75 pds and kept if off for years and
years?

thx volleyball chick


 




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