Low glycemic diet reduces risk factors of Metabolic syndrome

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."

Therefore, it was not the insulin resistance that caused the visceral
adipose tissue (VAT) leading to MetS but the other way around.

Moreover, Chicken McNuggets do not contain much refined
carbohydrates. From the documentary, it was clear that those
McNuggets were a frequent menu item so that you really can not make a
case for the diet being a cause of VAT. Instead, it was the
supersizing. This is underscored by the irrefutable fact that
McDonald's has discontinued supersizing.

Truth is simple.

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth



bigvince wrote:
On May 18, 10:47 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:
Would suggest you watch the Spurlock "SuperSizeMe" documentary as many
times as you require to understand that accumulation of VAT is the
cause of MetS and that this acquired condition arises solely from
overeating and not from inherited insulin resistance.

McDonalds understood this when they stopped the Supersizing option.

May you have at least the same amount of insight as the McDonalds
executives.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth



bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
It is not unusual for opinion pieces to lag behind current
understanding arising from current research.

VAT is clearly the cause of MetS.

Truth is simple.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD Almighty GOD, Who
is the Source of all knowledge and wisdom.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
The year is now 2007 and not 2005:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...71c9eb5a16bfe?

"The waist-hip ratio was positively and significantly associated with
deaths from all causes, cardiovascular disease, and diabetes (P.01
for trend)."

The waist-hip ratio is a measure of VAT and not insulin resistance.

Truth is simple.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

bigvince wrote:
On May 17, 2:10 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:
There is a distinction between "identifying" a clinical entity and
understanding what it is pathophysiologically. The former is useful
for diagnosis and the latter is useful for treating and possibly
curing the disease.

It is now well established in 2007 that visceral adipose tissue (VAT)
is the cause of metabolic syndrome (MetS).

Those who understand how VAT causes insulin resistance know that VAT
formation necessarily precedes the development of insulin resistance
and not the other way around.

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
...... Andrew said....".It is now well established in 2007 that visceral
adipose tissue (VAT)
is the cause of metabolic syndrome (MetS"
Vince said..... Thats not actualy correct. There is continuing
debate as the underlying cause of MetS but most experts in this field
today believe it is Insulin resistance that triggers this syndrome. In
fact it is sometime called insulin resistant syndrome. From a British
Medical Journal Article..... " BMJ 2005;331:1153-1154
(19 November), doi:10.1136/bmj.331.7526.1153

Editorial
"Metabolic syndrome "
Independently raises cardiovascular risk and should be picked up in
primary care

"Metabolic syndrome is characterised by hyper-insulinaemia, low
glucose tolerance, dyslipidaemia, hypertension, and obesity. This
cluster of factors has been recognised for many years, but the
syndrome was not formally labelled until Reaven did so in 1988 and
suggested that insulin resistance was its central characteristic.1
Insulin resistance seems to be the main underlying factor leading to
the increased risk of mortality from coronary heart disease among
people with the syndrome.2."....... Link ...http://www.bmj.com/cgi/
content/extract/331/7526/1153?
maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext= Metabolic+syndrome
+and+insulin
+resistance&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=H WCIT ... There
are many references like
this Thanks and God bless you Vince- Hide quoted text -

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Well here is something from 2007 .........
Selection from: CV Patient profiles:........April 10 2007
"Metabolic Syndrome: What It Is and Why You Should Treat It" Jason
Lazar, MD, FACC, FACCP .... "What causes metabolic syndrome? Although
a variety of factors have been proposed, it is felt that insulin
resistance is not only part of this syndrome, but may actually be the
cause of the entire syndrome." from Medscape today
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/554276?src= It surprises me
that you do not allow that others in your field have a different
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Firrst may God lead us in all virtues including humility. First it is
not an opinion piece it is a part of continuing education on this
subject. It is current and more important peer reviewed . The author
is Jason Lazar, MD, FACC, FACCP
Director of Non-Invasive Cardiology; Visiting Associate Professor of
Medicine, SUNY Downstate Medical Center, Brooklyn, New York. That you
may disagree with this experts opinion is fine . but it certainly is
up to date info. Thanks and may God bless you in all virtue. Vince.
However what info and research have you seen to conteract this experts
opinion and this was just released in April. Most experts today feel
that insulin resistance is the key to MetS some still lean toward VAT.
That is open to discussion however to say that the matter is well
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Consider the meal: soda;fries and a burger . A lot of sugar, mostly
refined carbs, the perfect meals to send insulin levels up. And for
people with insulin resistance an ideal meal to cause MetS.PLEASE
reread the original JAMA artcle as it clearly shows that for people
with insulin resistance What in terms of sugars and simple carbs is as
important as how much you eat. That for people with underlying insulin
resistance Vat is added at a greater rate in these people with the
high carb diet, than with the same caloric intake on a high fat diet.
As many of the leaders in this field most cardiologist but others as
well have a different position than yours ;.can you explain the
source of their error. Again God bless you . thanks Vince

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."
As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?
Therefore, it was not the insulin resistance that caused the visceral
adipose tissue (VAT) leading to MetS but the other way around.
.Moreover,
Chicken McNuggets do not contain much refined
carbohydrates. From the documentary, it was clear that those
McNuggets were a frequent menu item
How about the large fries .the large soda, the burgers, the milk
shakes all loaded with sugars and refined carbohydrates. Look obeasity
can be caused by any type of diet. But this type of diet produces VAT
in insulin sensitive people and therfore all the other co factors in
metS. There is even evidence that thin people can store VAT most
likely they will find that group is insulin resistant,.Thanks and may
God bless you. Vince

"Moreover, Chicken McNuggets do not contain much refined
carbohydrates. From the documentary, it was clear that those
McNuggets were a frequent menu item so that you really can not make a
case for the diet being a cause of VAT. Instead, it was the
supersizing. This is underscored by the irrefutable fact that
McDonald's has discontinued supersizing."

The mechanics are at it again. Pssst, I have it on good authority that
a diet consisting of two pounds of chicken nuggets a day is the thing
for perfect health. The proof is the pr marketing decision of a
corperation that shall go unnamed.

The department head of the marketing section is said to be on a fast
track for a trip to oslo this year.

bigvince wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."
As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

You will remain in my prayers, dear Vince, whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

On May 20, 1:19 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:
bigvince wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."
As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

You will remain in my prayers, dear Vince, whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).
Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on all the paramaters you have outlined. What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance. They most certainly could have a normal ekg. Their lipids could be within normal range.They would have only an increased level of insulin. Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest. What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels. What was his exact levels on all those parameters. What was his level of excercise . Again some scientific reasons. May God bless you in Jesus name. Thanks Vince

On May 21, 9:00 am, bigvince wrote:
On May 20, 1:19 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:





bigvince wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."
As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

You will remain in my prayers, dear Vince, whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with

insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).



Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on all the paramaters you have outlined. What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance. They most certainly could have a normal ekg. Their lipids could be within normal range.They would have only an increased level of insulin. Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest. What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels. What was his exact levels on all those parameters. What was his level of excercise . Again some scientific reasons. May God bless you in Jesus name. Thanks Vince- Hide quoted text -

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On May 21, 9:00 am, bigvince wrote:
On May 20, 1:19 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:





bigvince wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."
As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

You will remain in my prayers, dear Vince, whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with

insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).



Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on all the paramaters you have outlined. What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance. They most certainly could have a normal ekg. Their lipids could be within normal range.They would have only an increased level of insulin. Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest. What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels. What was his exact levels on all those parameters. What was his level of excercise . Again some scientific reasons. May God bless you in Jesus name. Thanks Vince- Hide quoted text -

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On May 21, 9:00 am, bigvince wrote:
On May 20, 1:19 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:





bigvince wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."
As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

You will remain in my prayers, dear Vince, whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with

insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).



Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on all the paramaters you have outlined. What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance. They most certainly could have a normal ekg. Their lipids could be within normal range.They would have only an increased level of insulin. Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest. What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels. What was his exact levels on all those parameters. What was his level of excercise . Again some scientific reasons. May God bless you in Jesus name. Thanks Vince- Hide quoted text -

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On May 20, 1:19 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:
bigvince wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."
As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

You will remain in my prayers, dear Vince, whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Lets try again........... I can write it because GOD has given me
the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).
Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on all the paramaters you have outlined. What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance. They most certainly could have a normal ekg. Their lipids could be within normal range.They would have only an increased level of insulin. Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest. What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels. What was his exact levels on all those parameters. What was his level of excercise . Again some scientific reasons. May God bless you in Jesus name. Thanks Vince

bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."

As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

Lets try again........... I can write it because GOD has given me
the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on
all the paramaters you have outlined.

Incorrect.

What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance.

See:

Acne, blotchy hyperpigmentation (aka "age spots"), skin tags, ear
creases, inflamed gums, and heberden's nodes.

Feel:

Rough thickened skin and heberden's nodes.

Hear:

Basal systolic heart murmur, a 4th heart sound, and cracking joints as
a person walks.

They most certainly could have a normal ekg.

Non-specific STTW changes from coronary spasm arising from endothelial
dysfunction, which occurs with insulin resistance, would make an EKG
abnormal.

This would be one explanation for why Director Spurlock was having
chest pains after gaining nearly 30 lbs of VAT.

Their lipids could be within normal range.

More commonly, there will be the derrangements of high triglycerides
and low HDL.

They would have only an increased level of insulin.

This would not happen until after there are increased levels of
inflammatory cytokines from the VAT leading to the abnormal findings
on physical exam as described above.

Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must
have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest.

Actually, all that is required is overeating and MetS will happen
automatically in time as VAT accumulates.

What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels.

What a doctor sees, feels, and hears in someone with MetS is described
above.

What was his exact levels on all those parameters.

Would suggest you either buy, rent, or borrow the SuperSizeMe DVD and
use the zoom feature of your DVD player to see what the exact levels
of these were for yourself (the order of the numbers were standard for
LabCorp so that even though the left side of the lab page were
obscured, one could see that all of Director Spurlock's comprehensive
blood test results were within the normal range).

What was his level of excercise .

This was described in the documentary as being physically active
including frequent sexual intercourse with his girlfriend.

Again some scientific reasons.

More than science here.... the truth.

May God bless you in Jesus name.

HE is doing that right now more than the world could possibly ever
know.

Thanks Vince

Thanks be to LORD Almighty GOD, Who chastens all who unwisely choose
to overeat by strickening them with MetS via the accumulation of VAT.

Laus Deo ! ! !

Most assuredly, without doubt, I know my LORD to be kind, just, and
right.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear Vince whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

On May 21, 12:27 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:
bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."

As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

Lets try again........... I can write it because GOD has given me
the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on
all the paramaters you have outlined.

Incorrect.

What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance.

See:

Acne, blotchy hyperpigmentation (aka "age spots"), skin tags, ear
creases, inflamed gums, and heberden's nodes.

Feel:

Rough thickened skin and heberden's nodes.

Hear:

Basal systolic heart murmur, a 4th heart sound, and cracking joints as
a person walks.

They most certainly could have a normal ekg.

Non-specific STTW changes from coronary spasm arising from endothelial
dysfunction, which occurs with insulin resistance, would make an EKG
abnormal.

This would be one explanation for why Director Spurlock was having
chest pains after gaining nearly 30 lbs of VAT.

Their lipids could be within normal range.

More commonly, there will be the derrangements of high triglycerides
and low HDL.

They would have only an increased level of insulin.

This would not happen until after there are increased levels of
inflammatory cytokines from the VAT leading to the abnormal findings
on physical exam as described above.

Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must
have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest.

Actually, all that is required is overeating and MetS will happen
automatically in time as VAT accumulates.

What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels.

What a doctor sees, feels, and hears in someone with MetS is described
above.

What was his exact levels on all those parameters.

Would suggest you either buy, rent, or borrow the SuperSizeMe DVD and
use the zoom feature of your DVD player to see what the exact levels
of these were for yourself (the order of the numbers were standard for
LabCorp so that even though the left side of the lab page were
obscured, one could see that all of Director Spurlock's comprehensive
blood test results were within the normal range).

What was his level of excercise .

This was described in the documentary as being physically active
including frequent sexual intercourse with his girlfriend.

Again some scientific reasons.

More than science here.... the truth.

May God bless you in Jesus name.

HE is doing that right now more than the world could possibly ever
know.

Thanks Vince

Thanks be to LORD Almighty GOD, Who chastens all who unwisely choose
to overeat by strickening them with MetS via the accumulation of VAT.

Laus Deo ! ! !

Most assuredly, without doubt, I know my LORD to be kind, just, and
right.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear Vince whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks now lets clarify are you saying that insulin resistanse again
not full blown MetS and certainly not MetS and early Heart diesease.
Would all have basal systolic murmer and a 4th heart sound or they
could have that. The same goes for the EKG people with increased
insulin resistance and early signs of MeTS some Vat would all have
abnormal Ekgs or could they have normal EKGS .Again the same with the
other symtoms; acne; cracking joints ect.; will these all show even
with little vat and some insulin resistance or are they much maore
likely in full blown MetS going toward early heart diesease. Thanks
and God Bless you Vince

bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
bigvince wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Director Spurlock clearly did not have insulin resistance before the
"experiment."

As his insulin levels the measure of insulin sensitivity were never measured how can you say that.?

I can write it because GOD has given me the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Laus Deo ! ! !

Lets try again........... I can write it because GOD has given me
the knowledge that folks with
insulin resistance are not normal (ie would not have a normal
history,
normal physical exam, normal EKG, normal blood tests including normal
lipid profile, etc).

Many with insulin resistance would have normal readings on
all the paramaters you have outlined.

Incorrect.

What would you see during a physical exam that would show insulin resistance.

See:

Acne, blotchy hyperpigmentation (aka "age spots"), skin tags, ear
creases, inflamed gums, and heberden's nodes.

Feel:

Rough thickened skin and heberden's nodes.

Hear:

Basal systolic heart murmur, a 4th heart sound, and cracking joints as
a person walks.

They most certainly could have a normal ekg.

Non-specific STTW changes from coronary spasm arising from endothelial
dysfunction, which occurs with insulin resistance, would make an EKG
abnormal.

This would be one explanation for why Director Spurlock was having
chest pains after gaining nearly 30 lbs of VAT.

Their lipids could be within normal range.

More commonly, there will be the derrangements of high triglycerides
and low HDL.

They would have only an increased level of insulin.

This would not happen until after there are increased levels of
inflammatory cytokines from the VAT leading to the abnormal findings
on physical exam as described above.

Even glucose test might fail to show it .To develop into MetS one must
have the underlying insulin sensitivity and a diet that allows it to manifest.

Actually, all that is required is overeating and MetS will happen
automatically in time as VAT accumulates.

What exactly would you expect to see if you did not measure insulin levels.

What a doctor sees, feels, and hears in someone with MetS is described
above.

What was his exact levels on all those parameters.

Would suggest you either buy, rent, or borrow the SuperSizeMe DVD and
use the zoom feature of your DVD player to see what the exact levels
of these were for yourself (the order of the numbers were standard for
LabCorp so that even though the left side of the lab page were
obscured, one could see that all of Director Spurlock's comprehensive
blood test results were within the normal range).

What was his level of excercise .

This was described in the documentary as being physically active
including frequent sexual intercourse with his girlfriend.

Again some scientific reasons.

More than science here.... the truth.

May God bless you in Jesus name.

HE is doing that right now more than the world could possibly ever
know.

Thanks Vince

Thanks be to LORD Almighty GOD, Who chastens all who unwisely choose
to overeat by strickening them with MetS via the accumulation of VAT.

Laus Deo ! ! !

Most assuredly, without doubt, I know my LORD to be kind, just, and
right.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear Vince whom I love unconditionally.

Thanks now lets clarify are you saying that insulin resistanse again
not full blown MetS and certainly not MetS and early Heart diesease.
Would all have basal systolic murmer and a 4th heart sound or they
could have that. The same goes for the EKG people with increased
insulin resistance and early signs of MeTS some Vat would all have
abnormal Ekgs or could they have normal EKGS .Again the same with the
other symtoms; acne; cracking joints ect.; will these all show even
with little vat and some insulin resistance or are they much maore
likely in full blown MetS going toward early heart diesease.

As soon as there is VAT, abnormal physical findings will start to
manifest as outlined above.

VAT is the cause of insulin resistance.

It logically follows that those without VAT will not have insulin
resistance.

A person with insulin resistance has already had VAT for a while and
will therefore not have a normal physical exam.

May GOD open your eyes.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
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