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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
Bob M writes: I don't know about this. I took a Twinlab product that included ephredrine, and the stuff was like speed: my heart was racing and palpitating. I even took half the recommended dosage! You started way too high, then. The right starting dose is about 1/6 of the "final" dose, so you took three times too much. You may have also chosen a high-strength product; it's important to note how much ephedra is in one "dose" and adjust the starting dose accordingly. You should be getting only a few mg per day to start, less if you don't have low blood pressure (none if you have high blood pressure, but the label should say that). The stuff is *supposed* to be like speed. That's how it works. Finding the right dose is an individual experiment. |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
"Wendy" wrote in message ... Ignoramus29553 wrote: So, again: I do not recommend that you take ephedrine. Based on the little information that I know, I recommend AGAINST it. But if you still want to buy nice potent ephedrine, I have 2 bottles that I can sell. I accept paypal. I'm interested. How much? What's the brand and dosage level? (Sometimes shipping costs more than I'm willing to pay!) Debby, the reason I'm interested is that low doses of ephedrine, when combined with caffeine, are useful in several ways in fat loss. They work as a metabolism stimulator and seems to preferentially burn the kind of fat on your stomach which is particularly bad for you. It's also an appetite suppressant. Some people find it works better for them than others. But it is a stimulant and needs to be evaluated specifically for how your body will handle it in context. I prefer to take it during tax season - I'm a tax accountant - because my exercise level goes down and my need for stimulants goes up. It's also a bit of an appetite suppressant. I generally take 24 mg of ephedrine in the form of 3 8 mg tablets along with 200 mg of caffeine in the form of one cup of coffee and 1/2 a 200 mg caffeine tablet. I do this once in the morning and sometimes I'll do a half dose in the early afternoon in lieue of reaching for some chocolate or other over-the-counter-higher-calorie stimulant. I also have asthma and ephedrine is truly useful as a bronchio-dilator. In fact, that's where you'll find it on the shelves at the drugstore - look for broncaid or primatene tablets. It has been used literally for centuries. The press has become inflamatory about it in the past three or four years but the number of deaths actually caused by ephedrine versus caused by heart failure for whatever reason you were taking ephedrine is very hard to tease out. Steve Belcher died, for example, when he was out of shape, over-heated, dehydrated and taking 3x the recommended dose on an empty stomach. More people die from aspirin than from ephedrine and a LOT more people die from obesity than from ephedrine. A good site for learning more about the actual research behind ephedrine is www.drumlib.com. I'm not worried about ephedrine-related death, I'm worried about obesity-related death. Wendy, but that's just me I understand where you are coming from on this, me, with high BP, it would be detrimental to my health. |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
"DJ Delorie" wrote in message ... "**Debby**" writes: Isn't that stuff bad for ya? Misusing it is bad for you, but also for a lot of other things, such as salt substitute, and you can buy that by the pound at the supermarket. Ephedrine itself is not intrinsically bad for you. Properly used, it can be safe and effective. Abusing *any* drug can be harmful. It's just bad for me, I guess..) |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
"Bob M" wrote in message news On 29 Oct 2003 11:23:26 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: "**Debby**" writes: Isn't that stuff bad for ya? Misusing it is bad for you, but also for a lot of other things, such as salt substitute, and you can buy that by the pound at the supermarket. Ephedrine itself is not intrinsically bad for you. Properly used, it can be safe and effective. Abusing *any* drug can be harmful. I don't know about this. I took a Twinlab product that included ephredrine, and the stuff was like speed: my heart was racing and palpitating. I even took half the recommended dosage! I threw the bottle away after that one incident. Plus, how many people die from using salt substitute? It affects different people differently. That's why it's important to be fully aware of any health issues you may have before you take a stimulant. A person with any heart or circulatory system problems would probably not want to take a stimulant. And some people are just plain more sensitive - my sister gets overwhelming jitters from a cup of coffee - I'd hate to see her on thermadrene! Some people get only a mild buzz... det |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
Just one of some I had was enough to help me all day.. didn't make me
jittery.. didn't bother my blood pressure.. sure did seem to help curb my appetite too better than anything else I had ever tried. Kind of ticks me off that I can't get it anymore. My dr knew I was taking it and wasn't that happy about it but as long I kept up with my blood pressure monitoring and he checked me over once a month while I was on it... everything was fine for over a year.. then I ran out and now can't get it anymore. Teeb "DJ Delorie" wrote in message ... Bob M writes: I don't know about this. I took a Twinlab product that included ephredrine, and the stuff was like speed: my heart was racing and palpitating. I even took half the recommended dosage! You started way too high, then. The right starting dose is about 1/6 of the "final" dose, so you took three times too much. You may have also chosen a high-strength product; it's important to note how much ephedra is in one "dose" and adjust the starting dose accordingly. You should be getting only a few mg per day to start, less if you don't have low blood pressure (none if you have high blood pressure, but the label should say that). The stuff is *supposed* to be like speed. That's how it works. Finding the right dose is an individual experiment. |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:32:51 -0700, Teeb wrote:
Just one of some I had was enough to help me all day.. didn't make me jittery.. didn't bother my blood pressure.. sure did seem to help curb my appetite too better than anything else I had ever tried. Kind of ticks me off that I can't get it anymore. My dr knew I was taking it and wasn't that happy about it but as long I kept up with my blood pressure monitoring and he checked me over once a month while I was on it... everything was fine for over a year.. then I ran out and now can't get it anymore. Teeb "DJ Delorie" wrote in message ... Bob M writes: I don't know about this. I took a Twinlab product that included ephredrine, and the stuff was like speed: my heart was racing and palpitating. I even took half the recommended dosage! You started way too high, then. The right starting dose is about 1/6 of the "final" dose, so you took three times too much. You may have also chosen a high-strength product; it's important to note how much ephedra is in one "dose" and adjust the starting dose accordingly. You should be getting only a few mg per day to start, less if you don't have low blood pressure (none if you have high blood pressure, but the label should say that). The stuff is *supposed* to be like speed. That's how it works. Finding the right dose is an individual experiment. But it was a plastic capsule. What do I do, break it apart and eat part of it? If it's that bad, why isn't the capsule smaller? By "capsule" I mean a plastic shell surrounding the chemicals inside, which means that the chemicals are going everywhere once I open it. Here's the problem -- the dose was too high, but I took HALF the RECOMMENDED dose. (And that was half the daily dose.) How am I to know that I should've taken 1/6 of that dose? Thus, the problem with Ephedra: the marketers don't even know how bad it is. -- Bob M in CT Remove 'x.' to reply |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
So, again: I do not recommend that you take ephedrine. Based on the
little information that I know, I recommend AGAINST it. But if you still want to buy nice potent ephedrine, I have 2 bottles that I can sell. I accept paypal. i Thanks, I just wondered ~Kat "Rice Krispies. East meets west" Cosmo Kramer |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
This is a crock.
PKB ~Kat "Rice Krispies. East meets west" Cosmo Kramer |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
"Ignoramus29553" wrote in message ... In article m, **Debby** wrote: "Ignoramus29553" wrote in message ... I have 2 unopened bottles of ephedrine that I would like to sell. Each has I think 300 tablets. I bought them when I started dieting but never took it and never opened the bottles (about 3-4 months ago). They spent this time in a dry, dark, cool place. Write to ichudov AT algebra DOT com. i 223/176/180 weight lost without ephedrine Isn't that stuff bad for ya? I am sure that it's bad, that's why I am not taking it, but instead trying to sell it. I'm new here and, obviously, haven't hit it off to well with the masses. However, aren't you one of the people who pops around calling others a troll? (Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure you made such a comment about me.) And now you are here, saying what you just said. My G-D, what a person you must be, no? Suppose that I came across a big box of cigarettes. I would not want to put that poison in my mouth, but I would like to sell it. Same here. What a horrid display of your character. Perhaps you would do well working at a tobacco company, recruiting minors. Some people want to take ephedrine and I thought I could relieve myself of two bottles that I do not need, by selling it to them. It is not too late to repent. Look at yourself, listen to what you are saying, and think about how that reflects upon you as a person. Is that the person you want to be? Hey, I'm ****y, but I wouldn't sell what I perceived to be poison to the kids down the street. Mike |
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Ephedrine for sale (2 bottles)
DJ Delorie at talked on ....
Isn't that stuff bad for ya? Ephedrine itself is not intrinsically bad for you. Properly used, it can be safe and effective. Abusing *any* drug can be harmful. Article on Atkins about ephadra http://atkins.com/Archive/2003/5/16-412996.html? -- Kitty =^..^= 168/161.6/130 September 17 2003 |
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