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Hi everyone,
I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot of information from her. 2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on my own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than my target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually don't quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing less than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are anything more than just a bit fat!). My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any food that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I am and I can't do anything about it. The main problem is that I don't like vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like I want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're supposed to be). I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher points. The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't something I can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The problem I have is that I need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right now) I need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast Extract is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth and take the desperate starving feeling partially away. Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either zero points of close to it, that isn't vegetables? Thanks, Geoff. |
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There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled
portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles. Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good luck and stick to it! "Geoff" wrote in message ... Hi everyone, I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot of information from her. 2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on my own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than my target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually don't quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing less than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are anything more than just a bit fat!). My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any food that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I am and I can't do anything about it. The main problem is that I don't like vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like I want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're supposed to be). I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher points. The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't something I can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The problem I have is that I need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right now) I need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast Extract is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth and take the desperate starving feeling partially away. Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either zero points of close to it, that isn't vegetables? Thanks, Geoff. |
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"Lachelle" wrote in message
om... There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles. Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good luck and stick to it! Hi Lachelle. Thanks for replying to me. To be honest I'm not too keen on trying low sugar things but I know I'm just being silly so I'll think about your suggestions (after I've converted all those things to what they're called in England!). ![]() As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy right now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if I don't do it soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to try. I need local support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not unless I pay Weigh Watchers and I refuse to pay an organisation just so I can sit in a room and talk to people. Thanks again for your help, Geoff. |
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Geoff wrote:
Hi everyone, I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot of information from her. Good for you! ![]() 2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on my own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than my target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually don't quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing less than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are anything more than just a bit fat!) If you are above the top weights in the charts, see if your mum can find out through WW what your points SHOULD be. I know it will mean eating more to start with, but you need a certain amount to keep working while you work on the excess. Here in the UK if you are more than 20 stone or 280 lbs and a man, you get 36 points, plus whatever bonus points you earn through exercise. My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any food that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I am and I can't do anything about it. Yes you can! ![]() in food is that MOST of them are LEARNED responses! There are very few programmed in flavours that are natural and instant dislikes. One of the things that is quite noticeable is that in families where a LOT of fresh foods and vegetables are eaten, the kids LIKE things like Brussels sprouts, broccoli, cabbage, courgettes, onions and whatever, and in families where this is NOT encouraged from an early age (as in under a year old!), the kids profess to dislike them even before trying them! Take my son as an example: we have always eaten fresh vegetables and fruit in large quantities. He loves cabbage, broccoli, green beans, carrots, parsnips, peppers, raw mushrooms and most salad things, but doesn't like cooked mushroom, tomatoes, courgettes, and one or two others - yet! He will keep trying and hoping to 'grow into' them! He eats most fruits, including tart apples by the bushel! If I hide the courgettes and tomatoes in with other veggies, chopped small, he'll eat them quite happily! He likes smoked salmon, but not cooked salmon! Weird, that one! The thing is that he IS willing to KEEP TRYING small quantities, in different dishes - and this is the key! ![]() And stop thinking of it as a diet! It's a healthy eating plan FOR LIFE! And like all major life changes, it takes time to work into and get right. The main problem is that I don't like vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like I want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're supposed to be). Potatoes count as a starch in the Great Plan, not a vegetable. They are in the same bracket as rice, bread, pasta, and the like. For the sake of your health, you need to include AT LEAST 5 portions of fruit and vegetables per day. They carry nutrients such as vitamins and minerals that are essential to a healthy life, as well as fiber, which is essential to healthy insides. The fiber in vegetables helps to regulate bowel movement and health as well as making you feel fuller and less likely to snack. I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher points. The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't something I can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The must be VERY big bananas! ![]() 1 point here in the UK. Apples are only half a point each, and there are LOTS of different varieties about. Try different varieties and see what you can find. Peel fruit and chop it up: takes longer to prepare and eat that way! Mix a higher point fruit with a lower point one: a cocktail of apples and orange, or kiwi fruit and pear, for example. The problem I have is that I need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right now) I need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast Extract is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth and take the desperate starving feeling partially away. Have you tried having a drink instead? Quite often the body gets confused and asks for food when it's really dehydrated. Have a glass of water and wait. If you are still hungry after 20 minutes, eat a raw carrot! Carrots are quite a good one. If you chop them in slices and eat them like chips, they taste sweeter and last longer. Swede and carrots grated take AGES to eat, so make you feel fuller, and they taste sweeter than when whole or boiled. Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either zero points of close to it, that isn't vegetables? There aren't any really good 'mad munchies' foods that are not vegetables. I'm going to suggest something here that I want you to think about really seriously: learn to cook! NOT just to throw a few simple dishes together, but really learn to prepare and cook vegetables. Get a WW vegetarian cookbook, and try lots of different things in different combinations. If you don't like the 'two veg' of meat and two veg dinners, ask yourself why. Do you dislike carrots and broccoli because they are cooked to a tasteless mush? Don't boil them! Lightly saute the broccoli with a little butter and some bacon and garlic... fry cabbage with cumin and carroway seed, garlic and onions rather than boiling it to yellow stinking slime! Steam the cabbage with sushi ginger, or make a whole slew of veggies into a stir-fry dish. Or try the Medeterranian Roast Vegetables to go with your roast chicken: Take one of each of the following, and chop them into large chunks: red onion yellow pepper courgette small aubergine fennel bulb add: 4 large mushrooms, quartered 4 tomatoes, quartered a pinch of mixed herbs a spray or three of olive oil Mix the whole lot together in a m/w and oven proof dish, and cover with cling film. Pierce the top and cook for 5-10 minutes, depending on the power of your machine. Remove the cling film, pop the dish in the oven, and leave it for 20 mins at about 180 degrees C. Eat what you like with the dinner, and leave the rest to go cold in the fridge. You can make the rest into zero point pasta sauce the following day buy zizzing it in a food processor, and adding a can of chopped tomatoes, some Worcestershire sauce and a dash of tobasco! The last thing I can do is say KEEP TRYING! New tastes take a while to develop, so don't give up, and try a little at a time. -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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"krys" wrote in message
... Plums - 3 for 1 pt Grapes. Cherries. Tomatoes - I eat 'em like apples. Strawberries - 150g for 1 pt. Organic carrots are good for munching - yep, I know - a vegetable, but the best ones are sweet. Rice cakes - 3 for 1pt, and less sawdust than ryvita - good for dipping in low point salsa etc...... I tried....... Hi Krys. Oh I wish I wasn't so fussy. ![]() Riveta? Maybe I'm thinking of something else. I think my Mother has some so I'll have a look in the morning. Grapes looks like the best bet from your list. I'll look up how many I could eat for a point. Thank you very much Krys. Geoff. |
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Plums - 3 for 1 pt
Grapes. Cherries. Tomatoes - I eat 'em like apples. Strawberries - 150g for 1 pt. Organic carrots are good for munching - yep, I know - a vegetable, but the best ones are sweet. Rice cakes - 3 for 1pt, and less sawdust than ryvita - good for dipping in low point salsa etc...... I tried....... -- krys UK 157/128.4/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 ....going down?... "Geoff" wrote in message ... Hi everyone, I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot of information from her. 2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on my own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than my target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually don't quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing less than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are anything more than just a bit fat!). My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any food that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I am and I can't do anything about it. The main problem is that I don't like vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like I want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're supposed to be). I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher points. The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't something I can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The problem I have is that I need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right now) I need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast Extract is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth and take the desperate starving feeling partially away. Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either zero points of close to it, that isn't vegetables? Thanks, Geoff. |
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Geoff wrote:
As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy right now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if I don't do it soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to try. I need local support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not unless I pay Weigh Watchers and I refuse to pay an organisation just so I can sit in a room and talk to people. Thanks again for your help, Geoff. Geoff, I'm going to speak from the heart, and this is going to be 'tough love'. There isn't EVER a good time to lose weight, or to do anything we don't REALLY want to do. You seem to have some reasons why you can't stick to a diet, in this case weight watchers, and we really can't give you one. We can answer your questions, but we can't answer your question behind the question: Why can't I eat what I want and still lose weight. If you don't want to control your portion size (eesh, 10 bananas?) have you considered exercising more? Walking, hiking, swimming, riding your bike? To fill your stomach drink black coffee, black tea, diet soda, water. You WILL have to sacrifice somethings to lose weight. Also, out of curisoity how much do you weight and how tall are you? In all seriousness, good luck. If you can't stick to a plan, pick something you can stick with. What you might want to consider is to journal everything that you eat, in a normal non dieting day, and then scale down from there. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 |
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I have to agree with bucknaked. You have to WANT to lose weight for
starters. Quit making excuses or you will never succeed with WW. Secondly, you have to be willing to make the long-term aka permanent commitment to a new healthier way of eating. If this means eating small portions of higher calorie foods or eating lots of low point foods then that is what is going to take to lose weight. "Geoff" wrote in message ... "Lachelle" wrote in message om... There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles. Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good luck and stick to it! Hi Lachelle. Thanks for replying to me. To be honest I'm not too keen on trying low sugar things but I know I'm just being silly so I'll think about your suggestions (after I've converted all those things to what they're called in England!). ![]() As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy right now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if I don't do it soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to try. I need local support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not unless I pay Weigh Watchers and I refuse to pay an organisation just so I can sit in a room and talk to people. Thanks again for your help, Geoff. |
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first tell us how much you actually do weigh so we can give you the right
points, that is most important, and you will see that if you have been reading here long at all, second you must decide what you are willing to do to lose, and WW limits no particular food category. Third, try Popcorn, for a low point filler, and last, welcome, Lee Geoff wrote in message ... Hi everyone, I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot of information from her. 2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on my own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than my target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually don't quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing less than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are anything more than just a bit fat!). My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any food that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I am and I can't do anything about it. The main problem is that I don't like vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like I want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're supposed to be). I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher points. The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't something I can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The problem I have is that I need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right now) I need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast Extract is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth and take the desperate starving feeling partially away. Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either zero points of close to it, that isn't vegetables? Thanks, Geoff. |
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This makes me very sad to read this, if you had a cut that needed stitches
you would pay someone to clean and sew you up, WW is a health provider as far as I am concerned. Rather than thinking of it as a weakness perhaps, you should see the strength in asking for, paying for and receiving the assistance you need to accomplish your goals, Lee Geoff wrote in message ... "Lachelle" wrote in message om... There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles. Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good luck and stick to it! Hi Lachelle. Thanks for replying to me. To be honest I'm not too keen on trying low sugar things but I know I'm just being silly so I'll think about your suggestions (after I've converted all those things to what they're called in England!). ![]() As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy right now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if I don't do it soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to try. I need local support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not unless I pay Weigh Watchers and I refuse to pay an organisation just so I can sit in a room and talk to people. Thanks again for your help, Geoff. |
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