regained weight after coming back from CA

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:46:20 +0200, "Lictor"
wrote:

Maybe you increased you HDL in the process, alcohol seems to have a positive
impact. Though maybe not that much if you did sample the rest of the
German specialty, their food is great but not very cholesterol friendly...

Well, we were attending something called the German Wine Academy,
which is run (and heavily subsidized) by the German wine industry
association. They were eager to show the students (all foreign in
this English-language version of the course) that German foods as well
as wines are cosmopolitan and can hold their own against other
European cuisines. So we were fed "nouvelle German" most of the time
-- much more continental-style foods, emphasizing fresh ingredients
and innovative preparations -- not a menu of sausages, sauerbraten,
and potatoes. And the meals weren't huge. So we ate pretty well, and
-- while I ate at least some of everything that was offered -- I
didn't gorge on anything.

I think the main problem is when people freak and give up or start to binge.
Or are so focussed on their diet that they snap and binge during the
holidays. Happened to my aunt this summer, she went back home (Martinique),
and there just was too much food she had loved since childhood. She gained
back the 5kg that she had dieted away, and then dropped the diet in dispair.
On the other hand, my mother does't do diets, and she didn't gain anything
during these very same holidays - she just ate a lot less food.
Otherwise, a slight regain on holidays is a non-event... It just regulates
itself in a couple of weeks... No biggie.

Yeah, I didn't do what your aunt did; I just came home and proceeded
to lose another 100 lbs. ;-).

Chris
262/139/. (145-150)

On 8 Sep 2004 23:34:23 GMT, Ignoramus13725
wrote:

I am, frankly, amazed at your maintenance progress... I am glad that
you think that you are eating a lot, I do not think so myself.

Well, you and I have different metabolisms :-). At any rate, I seem
to be eating enough to stay healthy, run, lift weights 4x/week, walk
several miles most days, and stuff like that. So I think I'm probably
not malnourished :-).

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

On 8 Sep 2004 23:34:23 GMT, Ignoramus13725
wrote:

I am, frankly, amazed at your maintenance progress... I am glad that
you think that you are eating a lot, I do not think so myself.

Well, you and I have different metabolisms :-). At any rate, I seem
to be eating enough to stay healthy, run, lift weights 4x/week, walk
several miles most days, and stuff like that. So I think I'm probably
not malnourished :-).

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:52:19 GMT, Chris Braun
wrote:

On 8 Sep 2004 23:34:23 GMT, Ignoramus13725
wrote:

I am, frankly, amazed at your maintenance progress... I am glad that
you think that you are eating a lot, I do not think so myself.

Well, you and I have different metabolisms :-). At any rate, I seem
to be eating enough to stay healthy, run, lift weights 4x/week, walk
several miles most days, and stuff like that. So I think I'm probably
not malnourished :-).

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

Chris, I agree you are amazing - but then we already know that

It's occurred to me to wonder if you suffer much from tiredness - I
don't mean specific to any weights or planned exercise, so much as in
normal daily life. It seems to me sometimes that you don't eat a lot,
particularly taking account of your activity levels, but your body
seems to do fine so it must be OK. My question is probably coming
from being of a similar age to you and wondering how energetic your
diet and lifestyle makes you feel, if that makes sense.

Janice

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:52:19 GMT, Chris Braun
wrote:

On 8 Sep 2004 23:34:23 GMT, Ignoramus13725
wrote:

I am, frankly, amazed at your maintenance progress... I am glad that
you think that you are eating a lot, I do not think so myself.

Well, you and I have different metabolisms :-). At any rate, I seem
to be eating enough to stay healthy, run, lift weights 4x/week, walk
several miles most days, and stuff like that. So I think I'm probably
not malnourished :-).

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

Chris, I agree you are amazing - but then we already know that

It's occurred to me to wonder if you suffer much from tiredness - I
don't mean specific to any weights or planned exercise, so much as in
normal daily life. It seems to me sometimes that you don't eat a lot,
particularly taking account of your activity levels, but your body
seems to do fine so it must be OK. My question is probably coming
from being of a similar age to you and wondering how energetic your
diet and lifestyle makes you feel, if that makes sense.

Janice

Bah, I gained 1.5kg (3lbs) while on holidays (Belgium), lost all of them
one
week after returning home, without even trying. Holidays gain tend to be
short ones, provided you don't freak out and lose control... Best thing to
do is trying to understand where the pounds come from and why (I have a
fairly good idea for mines), and learn something out of it.



I've been in maintenance for about 4 weeks now. Last labour day weekend my
meals were like this (and I'm not exaggerating):

Saturday
breakfast - 1 cup FF yogurt w/sugar free granola + ground up flax seed
lunch - 2 Weetabix with skim milk and a banana (ok this is where it goes
horribly wrong)
dinner - take out chinese food

Sunday
breakfast - left over chinese food (ate late, around 11am)
lunch/dinner - panzeotti
snack - I followed this up with a chocolate bar

Monday
breakfast - tea
lunch - left over panzerotti
dinner - spaghetti

I think I understand where my weight gain came from. *grin*
What a horrible weekend. I even snacked on Doritos throughout too. I did
gain- 2 pounds :/ It put me back over the 130 mark. I am happy to report
though, I went back on my WOE on Tuesday- and those 2 pounds are MIA. Which
is good because I have to squeeze into that 'little black dress' for a
wedding this Saturday, LOL. That was a horrible, horrible weekend, but not
unrecoverable.

Kim
154 starting
135 goal
128 currenty in maintenance

/promises never to go overboard like that again

Bah, I gained 1.5kg (3lbs) while on holidays (Belgium), lost all of them
one
week after returning home, without even trying. Holidays gain tend to be
short ones, provided you don't freak out and lose control... Best thing to
do is trying to understand where the pounds come from and why (I have a
fairly good idea for mines), and learn something out of it.



I've been in maintenance for about 4 weeks now. Last labour day weekend my
meals were like this (and I'm not exaggerating):

Saturday
breakfast - 1 cup FF yogurt w/sugar free granola + ground up flax seed
lunch - 2 Weetabix with skim milk and a banana (ok this is where it goes
horribly wrong)
dinner - take out chinese food

Sunday
breakfast - left over chinese food (ate late, around 11am)
lunch/dinner - panzeotti
snack - I followed this up with a chocolate bar

Monday
breakfast - tea
lunch - left over panzerotti
dinner - spaghetti

I think I understand where my weight gain came from. *grin*
What a horrible weekend. I even snacked on Doritos throughout too. I did
gain- 2 pounds :/ It put me back over the 130 mark. I am happy to report
though, I went back on my WOE on Tuesday- and those 2 pounds are MIA. Which
is good because I have to squeeze into that 'little black dress' for a
wedding this Saturday, LOL. That was a horrible, horrible weekend, but not
unrecoverable.

Kim
154 starting
135 goal
128 currenty in maintenance

/promises never to go overboard like that again

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:51:04 +0100, (janice) wrote:

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:52:19 GMT, Chris Braun
wrote:

On 8 Sep 2004 23:34:23 GMT, Ignoramus13725
wrote:

I am, frankly, amazed at your maintenance progress... I am glad that
you think that you are eating a lot, I do not think so myself.

Well, you and I have different metabolisms :-). At any rate, I seem
to be eating enough to stay healthy, run, lift weights 4x/week, walk
several miles most days, and stuff like that. So I think I'm probably
not malnourished :-).

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

Chris, I agree you are amazing - but then we already know that

It's occurred to me to wonder if you suffer much from tiredness - I
don't mean specific to any weights or planned exercise, so much as in
normal daily life. It seems to me sometimes that you don't eat a lot,
particularly taking account of your activity levels, but your body
seems to do fine so it must be OK. My question is probably coming
from being of a similar age to you and wondering how energetic your
diet and lifestyle makes you feel, if that makes sense.

Janice

Well, I'm not comfortable accepting a label of "amazing" :-). But
apart from that...

No, I wouldn't say I suffer from tiredness, at least any more than the
average person -- perhaps less than many women my age. On the days I
go to the gym in the evening (like today), I tend to be physically
tired when I get home (not until around 8:00) and don't feel like
doing much more than eating some dinner, hacking around on the
internet, and getting lunch and clothes ready for the next day. But I
don't often have times when I feel draggy or want to take daytime naps
or anything like that. I'm not terribly good about getting to bed
when I should at night, so sometimes if I have to get up extra-early
for for a few days straight it can tire me out. That's just lack of
sleep, though. I think my energy levels probably compare favorably to
other people I know in my general age group.

Chris

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:51:04 +0100, (janice) wrote:

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:52:19 GMT, Chris Braun
wrote:

On 8 Sep 2004 23:34:23 GMT, Ignoramus13725
wrote:

I am, frankly, amazed at your maintenance progress... I am glad that
you think that you are eating a lot, I do not think so myself.

Well, you and I have different metabolisms :-). At any rate, I seem
to be eating enough to stay healthy, run, lift weights 4x/week, walk
several miles most days, and stuff like that. So I think I'm probably
not malnourished :-).

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

Chris, I agree you are amazing - but then we already know that

It's occurred to me to wonder if you suffer much from tiredness - I
don't mean specific to any weights or planned exercise, so much as in
normal daily life. It seems to me sometimes that you don't eat a lot,
particularly taking account of your activity levels, but your body
seems to do fine so it must be OK. My question is probably coming
from being of a similar age to you and wondering how energetic your
diet and lifestyle makes you feel, if that makes sense.

Janice

Well, I'm not comfortable accepting a label of "amazing" :-). But
apart from that...

No, I wouldn't say I suffer from tiredness, at least any more than the
average person -- perhaps less than many women my age. On the days I
go to the gym in the evening (like today), I tend to be physically
tired when I get home (not until around 8:00) and don't feel like
doing much more than eating some dinner, hacking around on the
internet, and getting lunch and clothes ready for the next day. But I
don't often have times when I feel draggy or want to take daytime naps
or anything like that. I'm not terribly good about getting to bed
when I should at night, so sometimes if I have to get up extra-early
for for a few days straight it can tire me out. That's just lack of
sleep, though. I think my energy levels probably compare favorably to
other people I know in my general age group.

Chris

Last labour day weekend my
meals were like this (and I'm not exaggerating):

Saturday
breakfast - 1 cup FF yogurt w/sugar free granola + ground up flax seed
lunch - 2 Weetabix with skim milk and a banana (ok this is where it goes
horribly wrong)
dinner - take out chinese food

Sunday
breakfast - left over chinese food (ate late, around 11am)
lunch/dinner - panzeotti
snack - I followed this up with a chocolate bar

Monday
breakfast - tea
lunch - left over panzerotti
dinner - spaghetti

"I did gain- 2 pounds"

LOL, what the hell, that little food made you gain 2 pounds. I can eat
all that in one meal, 4 times a day and i wouldnt gain a pound of
real fat. That two pounds of fat that you supposedly gained was not
all fat. Some people take this weight thing too seriously. It was
probably water retention. I read a study a long time ago saying that
if a 200lb person eats 4500 calories a day for 10 days,they will only
gain 2-3 lbs of real fat and about a few pounds of muscle as well. So
I don't think in 3 days you gained 2 lbs of fat. Take it easy, fat is
actually hard to put on if you're following a diet like yourself. Sure
you may have cheat days,but if you continue your diet thereafter,then
cheating is not a big deal.

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mack