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Richard Schultz wrote:
In misc.health.alternative PeterB wrote:

: What is your background in the clinical use of B17, or do you have some
: source of information you can reference about it?

What is *your* background in the clinical use of laetrile?

Evasion noted. You have not one iota of evidence in support of your
own position on Laetrile. Of course, we knew that, but thanks for
proving it.

I hope that it's
something more professional than an ability to find a book written by
someone whose connection to reality can be seriously questioned.

What chronology of events or data in Griffin's book do you contest, and
why have you not offered to substantiate your opinion?

PeterB

In misc.health.alternative PeterB wrote:
: Richard Schultz wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative PeterB wrote:

: : What is your background in the clinical use of B17, or do you have some
: : source of information you can reference about it?

: What is *your* background in the clinical use of laetrile?

: Evasion noted.

You are the one who spends all of his time on usenet evading questions.

: You have not one iota of evidence in support of your
: own position on Laetrile. Of course, we knew that, but thanks for
: proving it.

I posted evidence in support of my position. Your unwillingness to read
it (or inability to understand it -- take your choice) is your problem,
not mine.

: I hope that it's
: something more professional than an ability to find a book written by
: someone whose connection to reality can be seriously questioned.
:
: What chronology of events or data in Griffin's book do you contest, and
: why have you not offered to substantiate your opinion?

I do not have access to Griffin's book, or any interest in purchasing it.
My opinion of him is easily substantiated by a quick look at the other
books that he's written and a glance at his web site.

Or to put it another way, do you think that the following statement
(from http://www.freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling2.pdf) is a
reasonable one?

The power centers of the United States – including both major
political parties – are controlled by members of the Council
on Foreign Relations. This, in turn, is controlled by a submerged
Round Table Group, which is associated with other Round Tables
in other countries. These are extensions of a secret society
founded by Cecil Rhodes and still in operation today.

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Richard Schultz
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"There are no fools as tiresome as those who have some wit." -- La Rochefoucald

"What chronology of events or data in Griffin's book do you contest, and
why have you not offered to substantiate your opinion?"

In the 30 years since his book the evidence presented by those in
support of this most famous poster child for "alternative drugs" ever
was labeled by you as "inept", with which we all concur. In those same
30 years since that book using accepted scientific research methods
trials using that most famous poster child for "alternative drugs"
failed to show it did anything to cancer at all, nada, nothing.

The chronology in his book was his sequence of excuses for why no
evidence was available and about how the evil "them" were trying to keep
the cure for cancer from the public. The sequence of events in the 30
years since his book disprove both, no evidence from supporters survives
a look and real science could not confirm. And, did we mention the
toxic poisening that occured with use of the most famous poster child of
the "alternative drugs" in all of history?

Richard Schultz wrote:
In misc.health.alternative PeterB wrote:
: Richard Schultz wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative PeterB wrote:

: : What is your background in the clinical use of B17, or do you have some
: : source of information you can reference about it?

: What is *your* background in the clinical use of laetrile?

: Evasion noted.

You are the one who spends all of his time on usenet evading questions.

So why didn't you answer my challenge with data on the efficacy and
safety of 35 drugs (or at least 1/2 the list as I generously offered)?
Don't tell me. You have no background in pharmaceutical science,
received your TEVA award for *not* representing the interests of
industry, and don't define ADEs as a disease response. You sound like
every other pharmboy on Usenet.

: You have not one iota of evidence in support of your
: own position on Laetrile. Of course, we knew that, but thanks for
: proving it.

I posted evidence in support of my position. Your unwillingness to read
it (or inability to understand it -- take your choice) is your problem,
not mine.

I recall that the evidence in support of Laetrile was not conflicted by
gross distortions of the facts, such that NCI's own Dr. Burk went to
bat for it, based largely (but not soley) on the work of Dr. Sugiara,
whose research demonstrated positive results in animal systems
repeatedly. With FDA's own retraction that it had ever issued an IND
to the McNaughton Foundation (which it clearly had done before pulling
it back), and the conflicted reports out of Sloan Kettering in an
effort at damage control against a backdrop of leaks regarding
Sugiara's results, I can hardly do more than note that you provided the
"evidence" available to you. Unfortunately, the quality of that
evidence is highly suspect.

: I hope that it's
: something more professional than an ability to find a book written by
: someone whose connection to reality can be seriously questioned.
:
: What chronology of events or data in Griffin's book do you contest, and
: why have you not offered to substantiate your opinion?

I do not have access to Griffin's book, or any interest in purchasing it.
My opinion of him is easily substantiated by a quick look at the other
books that he's written and a glance at his web site.

So, where do you get your "facts" on the study of laetrile? Is it so
difficult to provide a reference or source?

Or to put it another way, do you think that the following statement
(from http://www.freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling2.pdf) is a
reasonable one?

The power centers of the United States - including both major
political parties - are controlled by members of the Council
on Foreign Relations. This, in turn, is controlled by a submerged
Round Table Group, which is associated with other Round Tables
in other countries. These are extensions of a secret society
founded by Cecil Rhodes and still in operation today.

Who was Cecil Rhodes?

PeterB