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Soy products?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:45:26 -0500, "Jennifer Austin"
wrote: Have you tried any of the soy cheeses out there? Just curious. DH has been my guinea pig for lots of new things until I can eat them, but he refuses to even consider the idea of soy cheese I have, but couldn't see any benefit in taste or nutrition over my standby f/f cheese slices :-). Of course they're a source of soy, whereas the f/f cheese is not, but I get soy elsewhere in my diet anyway. They might be a good choice for someone with lactose tolerance problems. Chris |
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Soy products?
anyone knows if what the joe posted about soy is true or is it simply
propaganda by the milk industry which was very upset with the idea of 'soy' milk and they are even sued them for patent infringement or some such because they claim soy milk is not a real 'milk' Ignoramus3739 wrote: Very interesting stuff Joe. Thanks for the links, I read those articles. I will wait with my soy experiments until I become convinced that the soy products are as safe as, say, meat and tomatoes. i In article , Joe wrote: On 29 Sep 2003 15:06:08 GMT, Ignoramus3739 wrote: I have been reading some ideas about benefits of soy products, but I am not very familiar with them. Does anyone know if those benefits are really valid, and also which soy products are good. I am allergic to soy "milk", for sure. i http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/ http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/30/soy_comments.htm http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/202...y_feature.html |
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Soy products?
"Alison L Miles" wrote in message ... Jennifer Austin wrote: Have you tried any of the soy cheeses out there? Just curious. DH has been my guinea pig for lots of new things until I can eat them, but he refuses to even consider the idea of soy cheese Jenn I'm curious about them too; I randomly selected one to try the last time I was at Whole Foods. It was Soya Kaas fat-free pepper jack. I wouldn't recommend starting with this one as you may need to get used to soy cheese before transitioning to fat free soy cheese. I didn't try it IN anything or try to melt it--I just ate it straight from the fridge. It had a rather odd texture that wasn't like normal cheese and a kind of weird flavor (I don't know if it was the "cheese" or the pepper jack part). The brand I've seen most often is Galaxy Foods "veggie" line, so buying a package of their slices may be a less scary way to start out (I just bought some of their rice slices but haven't tried them yet). -Alison I sorta figured they'd just be a different kind of food altogether. I think the Galaxy is what we have here and when I can add them to the WOE, I thought I'd try them for a change. Jenn |
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Soy products?
"Chris Braun" wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:45:26 -0500, "Jennifer Austin" wrote: Have you tried any of the soy cheeses out there? Just curious. DH has been my guinea pig for lots of new things until I can eat them, but he refuses to even consider the idea of soy cheese I have, but couldn't see any benefit in taste or nutrition over my standby f/f cheese slices :-). Of course they're a source of soy, whereas the f/f cheese is not, but I get soy elsewhere in my diet anyway. They might be a good choice for someone with lactose tolerance problems. Chris I don't have lactose tolerance problems, just a lack of selection in the local groceries. I like shredded cheese rather than slices - for making pizza mostly. I've been making some awesome home made pizzas w/ whole grain crust for my hubby and I thought I'd try the soy mozzarella because it had fewer calories and fat than what I have access to. The only ff shredded cheese I found so far is cheddar, which I do use on pizza but only with mozzarella and parmesan. I have used soy in the past to cut back on animal products. A friend of mine who successfully lost 90 pounds and has kept it off for nearly 20 years now advised that the best way to avoid or deal with foods I shouldn't eat is not to start again. If I start off with the lower cal & fat products, I might not crave the full fat ones since it's been so very long since I've even had them. Jenn |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:51:45 -0500, "Jennifer Austin"
wrote: A friend of mine who successfully lost 90 pounds and has kept it off for nearly 20 years now advised that the best way to avoid or deal with foods I shouldn't eat is not to start again. If I start off with the lower cal & fat products, I might not crave the full fat ones since it's been so very long since I've even had them. This sounds very sensible. I've pretty much gotten past craving such things. Some I like on special occasions -- like regular cheeses -- but I don't like full fat milk at all, and don't like much oil or grease in most foods, or fatty meat. I'm not sure what you've been doing in the way of supplements while on the liquid diet, but I'd recommend taking an EFA supplement if you follow a diet that's quite low in fat. Chris |
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Soy products?
On 9/30/2003 7:42 PM, Anonymous wrote: anyone knows if what the joe posted about soy is true or is it simply propaganda by the milk industry which was very upset with the idea of 'soy' milk and they are even sued them for patent infringement or some such because they claim soy milk is not a real 'milk' I'm not sure what to beleive. Perhaps it's one of those "everything in moderation" things? Soy Lowers PSA Levels in Some Men: Soy May Benefit Some Patients With Early-Stage Prostate Cancer http://my.webmd.com/content/article/64/72349.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348} Soy Helps Hearts for Some Diabetics: Postmenopausal Women May Benefit From Taking Supplements http://my.webmd.com/content/article/51/43640.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348} Ignoramus3739 wrote: Very interesting stuff Joe. Thanks for the links, I read those articles. I will wait with my soy experiments until I become convinced that the soy products are as safe as, say, meat and tomatoes. i In article , Joe wrote: On 29 Sep 2003 15:06:08 GMT, Ignoramus3739 wrote: I have been reading some ideas about benefits of soy products, but I am not very familiar with them. Does anyone know if those benefits are really valid, and also which soy products are good. I am allergic to soy "milk", for sure. i http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/ http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/30/soy_comments.htm http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/202...y_feature.html |
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"Chris Braun" wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:51:45 -0500, "Jennifer Austin" wrote: A friend of mine who successfully lost 90 pounds and has kept it off for nearly 20 years now advised that the best way to avoid or deal with foods I shouldn't eat is not to start again. If I start off with the lower cal & fat products, I might not crave the full fat ones since it's been so very long since I've even had them. This sounds very sensible. I've pretty much gotten past craving such things. Some I like on special occasions -- like regular cheeses -- but I don't like full fat milk at all, and don't like much oil or grease in most foods, or fatty meat. I'm not sure what you've been doing in the way of supplements while on the liquid diet, but I'd recommend taking an EFA supplement if you follow a diet that's quite low in fat. Chris This diet is very low in fat, like only 2% of my calories. Now that I've begun transition and using the entrees it's about 5-8% for now and will keep going up slowly as I add food items. What is EFA? I'm not adverse to supplements and if it would be useful I will definitely look into it. Jenn |
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:12:37 -0500, "Jennifer Austin"
wrote: "Chris Braun" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:51:45 -0500, "Jennifer Austin" wrote: A friend of mine who successfully lost 90 pounds and has kept it off for nearly 20 years now advised that the best way to avoid or deal with foods I shouldn't eat is not to start again. If I start off with the lower cal & fat products, I might not crave the full fat ones since it's been so very long since I've even had them. This sounds very sensible. I've pretty much gotten past craving such things. Some I like on special occasions -- like regular cheeses -- but I don't like full fat milk at all, and don't like much oil or grease in most foods, or fatty meat. I'm not sure what you've been doing in the way of supplements while on the liquid diet, but I'd recommend taking an EFA supplement if you follow a diet that's quite low in fat. Chris This diet is very low in fat, like only 2% of my calories. Now that I've begun transition and using the entrees it's about 5-8% for now and will keep going up slowly as I add food items. What is EFA? I'm not adverse to supplements and if it would be useful I will definitely look into it. Jenn EFA stands for Essential Fatty Acids. My supplement contains omega 3, 6, & 9 fats along with flaxseed oil. I buy the brand sold by my gym, but you should be able to find similar things anywhere supplements are sold. These are the "good fats"; they're essential to a whole bunch of bodily functions, including heart health. There's also evidence that they help one attain and maintain a healthy weight. (You can find a bunch of stuff about this on the web.) Chris |
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Soy products?
"Chris Braun" wrote in message ... This diet is very low in fat, like only 2% of my calories. Now that I've begun transition and using the entrees it's about 5-8% for now and will keep going up slowly as I add food items. What is EFA? I'm not adverse to supplements and if it would be useful I will definitely look into it. Jenn EFA stands for Essential Fatty Acids. My supplement contains omega 3, 6, & 9 fats along with flaxseed oil. I buy the brand sold by my gym, but you should be able to find similar things anywhere supplements are sold. These are the "good fats"; they're essential to a whole bunch of bodily functions, including heart health. There's also evidence that they help one attain and maintain a healthy weight. (You can find a bunch of stuff about this on the web.) Chris Gotcha. I'm familiar with that. I'm probably not going to be able to take them now because they're probably not non-caloric, BUT when I do get totally back into food, I plan on using flax seed and I prefer the fattier fish (salmon, tuna, halibut) so I'm sure I'll get plenty in my WOE, but I'll look into it if that doesn't seem to be the case. A new health food store opened up in town and the guy who runs it plans on opening a vegetarian deli, including sprouted breads & sprouted flax seed gel among other things. Jenn |
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:49:03 -0500, "Jennifer Austin"
wrote: Gotcha. I'm familiar with that. I'm probably not going to be able to take them now because they're probably not non-caloric, No, but they're not high in calories. The daily dosage of mine has 40 calories - a bit over 4g of fat. BUT when I do get totally back into food, I plan on using flax seed and I prefer the fattier fish (salmon, tuna, halibut) so I'm sure I'll get plenty in my WOE, but I'll look into it if that doesn't seem to be the case. A new health food store opened up in town and the guy who runs it plans on opening a vegetarian deli, including sprouted breads & sprouted flax seed gel among other things. Maybe your liquid diet already includes some good fats? It really wouldn't seem healthy to have none, from what I've read. The vegetarian deli sounds cool! Chris |
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