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Old September 8th, 2004, 12:58 PM
Pat
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yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric century
this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them I'm looking for
new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't think there are exactly
cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the bike and they definitely don't

offer
much in the way of contact area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals
that are SPD compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that
would allow me to avoid buying new shoes.


First, turn your shoes over and have a look at the arrangement of the soles.
Many brands of shoes are drilled so that more than one type of cleat can be
used.

Pat in TX




  #52  
Old September 8th, 2004, 06:55 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
billydee wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Pat wrote:
|||||||| Before you go out and spend money, loosen up your shoes a bit.
|||||||| Feet tend to swell when you ride and that could be part of the
|||||||| problem.

|||||| I'll try that on my ride this weekend....another metric century.
|||||| Were it not for this problem, I feel I could do the full century.
|||||| But I can't imagine endurance that pain for 40 miles (it starts
|||||| up
|||||| at around 60 miles without fail, it seems).
||||||
|||||| Of course, I don't feel I wear my shoes too tight, but I'll try
|||||| your
|||||| suggestion anyway simply because I might be wrong! And the
|||||| swelling
|||||| seems plausible.
|||||
||||| Last year, a guy at the LBS told me to take an extra pair of
||||| socks.
||||| He said to stop at the rest stop nearest the halfway point and
||||| change socks. He said it would give me a lift. Well, you know
||||| what?
||||| He was right! The dry socks were nice, but I also think the
||||| feeling had to do with sitting down, taking the feet out of the
||||| shoes and massaging them a bit before putting the new socks on.
||||| Even
||||| just getting air on hot feet helped a lot.
|||||
|||
||| I have, in the past, gotten off the bike and massaged my feet on
||| the side of
||| the road. Thing is, my socks don't feel wet, as they are those
||| coolmax
||| socks with the wicking property. Of course, it can't hurt to try
||| that (changing socks) either since the cost is zero Heat does
||| seem to be a
||| partial factor in all of this - except that on my last ride where
||| the
||| burning occur, it was a very cool day. I think pedal pressure was
||| in play
||| then. Come to think of it, I had not been on the bike in over a
||| week due to
||| catching a cold. Who knows...
||
|| stiffer soles and/or larger contact patch with your pedals can cure
|| hot foot. if you're using cheap shoes and SPD-type pedals it might be
|| time to upgrade to something better.

yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric century
this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them I'm looking for
new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't think there are exactly
cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the bike and they definitely don't offer
much in the way of contact area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals
that are SPD compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that
would allow me to avoid buying new shoes.


All in all, $70 is on the lower side of bike shoes unless you got em
majorly on sale. Are they road shoes or MTB shoes? MTB shoes tend to
be less stiff. SPDs in combination with flexy shoes can cause exactly
the problem you describe. If you are planning on doing more mileage it
might be time to upgrade both pedals and shoes. Hard to go wrong with
Sidis or Look-style pedals (personally I use Campy Record pedals and
Sidi shoes and ride centuries all the time with no discomfort) The
comfort you get will make the money worth it.
  #53  
Old September 8th, 2004, 06:55 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
billydee wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Pat wrote:
|||||||| Before you go out and spend money, loosen up your shoes a bit.
|||||||| Feet tend to swell when you ride and that could be part of the
|||||||| problem.

|||||| I'll try that on my ride this weekend....another metric century.
|||||| Were it not for this problem, I feel I could do the full century.
|||||| But I can't imagine endurance that pain for 40 miles (it starts
|||||| up
|||||| at around 60 miles without fail, it seems).
||||||
|||||| Of course, I don't feel I wear my shoes too tight, but I'll try
|||||| your
|||||| suggestion anyway simply because I might be wrong! And the
|||||| swelling
|||||| seems plausible.
|||||
||||| Last year, a guy at the LBS told me to take an extra pair of
||||| socks.
||||| He said to stop at the rest stop nearest the halfway point and
||||| change socks. He said it would give me a lift. Well, you know
||||| what?
||||| He was right! The dry socks were nice, but I also think the
||||| feeling had to do with sitting down, taking the feet out of the
||||| shoes and massaging them a bit before putting the new socks on.
||||| Even
||||| just getting air on hot feet helped a lot.
|||||
|||
||| I have, in the past, gotten off the bike and massaged my feet on
||| the side of
||| the road. Thing is, my socks don't feel wet, as they are those
||| coolmax
||| socks with the wicking property. Of course, it can't hurt to try
||| that (changing socks) either since the cost is zero Heat does
||| seem to be a
||| partial factor in all of this - except that on my last ride where
||| the
||| burning occur, it was a very cool day. I think pedal pressure was
||| in play
||| then. Come to think of it, I had not been on the bike in over a
||| week due to
||| catching a cold. Who knows...
||
|| stiffer soles and/or larger contact patch with your pedals can cure
|| hot foot. if you're using cheap shoes and SPD-type pedals it might be
|| time to upgrade to something better.

yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric century
this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them I'm looking for
new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't think there are exactly
cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the bike and they definitely don't offer
much in the way of contact area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals
that are SPD compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that
would allow me to avoid buying new shoes.


All in all, $70 is on the lower side of bike shoes unless you got em
majorly on sale. Are they road shoes or MTB shoes? MTB shoes tend to
be less stiff. SPDs in combination with flexy shoes can cause exactly
the problem you describe. If you are planning on doing more mileage it
might be time to upgrade both pedals and shoes. Hard to go wrong with
Sidis or Look-style pedals (personally I use Campy Record pedals and
Sidi shoes and ride centuries all the time with no discomfort) The
comfort you get will make the money worth it.
  #54  
Old September 8th, 2004, 09:00 PM
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Pat wrote:
::: yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric
::: century this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them
::: I'm looking for new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't
::: think there are exactly cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the
::: bike and they definitely don't offer much in the way of contact
::: area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals that are SPD
::: compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that would
::: allow me to avoid buying new shoes.
::
:: First, turn your shoes over and have a look at the arrangement of
:: the soles. Many brands of shoes are drilled so that more than one
:: type of cleat can be used.

I have the 2003 version of these http://tinyurl.com/59cmk (i can't see a
difference). They support SPD and time pedals.



  #55  
Old September 8th, 2004, 09:00 PM
Roger Zoul
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Pat wrote:
::: yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric
::: century this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them
::: I'm looking for new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't
::: think there are exactly cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the
::: bike and they definitely don't offer much in the way of contact
::: area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals that are SPD
::: compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that would
::: allow me to avoid buying new shoes.
::
:: First, turn your shoes over and have a look at the arrangement of
:: the soles. Many brands of shoes are drilled so that more than one
:: type of cleat can be used.

I have the 2003 version of these http://tinyurl.com/59cmk (i can't see a
difference). They support SPD and time pedals.



  #56  
Old September 8th, 2004, 09:08 PM
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billydee wrote:


[...]

zool wrote:
::: yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric
::: century this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them
::: I'm looking for new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't
::: think there are exactly cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the
::: bike and they definitely don't offer much in the way of contact
::: area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals that are SPD
::: compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that would
::: allow me to avoid buying new shoes.
::
:: All in all, $70 is on the lower side of bike shoes unless you got em
:: majorly on sale. Are they road shoes or MTB shoes? MTB shoes tend to
:: be less stiff. SPDs in combination with flexy shoes can cause exactly
:: the problem you describe. If you are planning on doing more mileage
:: it
:: might be time to upgrade both pedals and shoes. Hard to go wrong with
:: Sidis or Look-style pedals (personally I use Campy Record pedals and
:: Sidi shoes and ride centuries all the time with no discomfort) The
:: comfort you get will make the money worth it.

Mine are road shoes: http://tinyurl.com/59cmk (mine are the 2003 version).

I'm definitely planning on more mileage. It sure is hard to know what the
right decision is. I'm sure if the pain doesn't cease i'll end up spending
money.


  #57  
Old September 8th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Roger Zoul
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billydee wrote:


[...]

zool wrote:
::: yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric
::: century this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them
::: I'm looking for new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't
::: think there are exactly cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the
::: bike and they definitely don't offer much in the way of contact
::: area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals that are SPD
::: compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that would
::: allow me to avoid buying new shoes.
::
:: All in all, $70 is on the lower side of bike shoes unless you got em
:: majorly on sale. Are they road shoes or MTB shoes? MTB shoes tend to
:: be less stiff. SPDs in combination with flexy shoes can cause exactly
:: the problem you describe. If you are planning on doing more mileage
:: it
:: might be time to upgrade both pedals and shoes. Hard to go wrong with
:: Sidis or Look-style pedals (personally I use Campy Record pedals and
:: Sidi shoes and ride centuries all the time with no discomfort) The
:: comfort you get will make the money worth it.

Mine are road shoes: http://tinyurl.com/59cmk (mine are the 2003 version).

I'm definitely planning on more mileage. It sure is hard to know what the
right decision is. I'm sure if the pain doesn't cease i'll end up spending
money.


  #58  
Old September 8th, 2004, 09:13 PM
Pat
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:: All in all, $70 is on the lower side of bike shoes unless you got em
:: majorly on sale. Are they road shoes or MTB shoes? MTB shoes tend to
:: be less stiff. SPDs in combination with flexy shoes can cause exactly
:: the problem you describe. If you are planning on doing more mileage
:: it
:: might be time to upgrade both pedals and shoes. Hard to go wrong with
:: Sidis or Look-style pedals (personally I use Campy Record pedals and
:: Sidi shoes and ride centuries all the time with no discomfort) The
:: comfort you get will make the money worth it.

Mine are road shoes: http://tinyurl.com/59cmk (mine are the 2003

version).

I'm definitely planning on more mileage. It sure is hard to know what the
right decision is. I'm sure if the pain doesn't cease i'll end up

spending
money.


I paid about $75, but they were "last year's model" etc. etc. The soles are
S_T_I_F_F carbon fiber soles with no bend whatsoever (not rubbery or even
rubber looking). This is definitely the time of year to look for last year's
models on sale. Just make sure the toe box is wide enough for your toes to
move around some.

Pat in TX



  #59  
Old September 8th, 2004, 09:13 PM
Pat
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:: All in all, $70 is on the lower side of bike shoes unless you got em
:: majorly on sale. Are they road shoes or MTB shoes? MTB shoes tend to
:: be less stiff. SPDs in combination with flexy shoes can cause exactly
:: the problem you describe. If you are planning on doing more mileage
:: it
:: might be time to upgrade both pedals and shoes. Hard to go wrong with
:: Sidis or Look-style pedals (personally I use Campy Record pedals and
:: Sidi shoes and ride centuries all the time with no discomfort) The
:: comfort you get will make the money worth it.

Mine are road shoes: http://tinyurl.com/59cmk (mine are the 2003

version).

I'm definitely planning on more mileage. It sure is hard to know what the
right decision is. I'm sure if the pain doesn't cease i'll end up

spending
money.


I paid about $75, but they were "last year's model" etc. etc. The soles are
S_T_I_F_F carbon fiber soles with no bend whatsoever (not rubbery or even
rubber looking). This is definitely the time of year to look for last year's
models on sale. Just make sure the toe box is wide enough for your toes to
move around some.

Pat in TX



  #60  
Old September 8th, 2004, 09:13 PM
Pat
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:: All in all, $70 is on the lower side of bike shoes unless you got em
:: majorly on sale. Are they road shoes or MTB shoes? MTB shoes tend to
:: be less stiff. SPDs in combination with flexy shoes can cause exactly
:: the problem you describe. If you are planning on doing more mileage
:: it
:: might be time to upgrade both pedals and shoes. Hard to go wrong with
:: Sidis or Look-style pedals (personally I use Campy Record pedals and
:: Sidi shoes and ride centuries all the time with no discomfort) The
:: comfort you get will make the money worth it.

Mine are road shoes: http://tinyurl.com/59cmk (mine are the 2003

version).

I'm definitely planning on more mileage. It sure is hard to know what the
right decision is. I'm sure if the pain doesn't cease i'll end up

spending
money.


I paid about $75, but they were "last year's model" etc. etc. The soles are
S_T_I_F_F carbon fiber soles with no bend whatsoever (not rubbery or even
rubber looking). This is definitely the time of year to look for last year's
models on sale. Just make sure the toe box is wide enough for your toes to
move around some.

Pat in TX



 




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