Has anyone else noticed the similarities?

and this is very fascinating because our leaders ask the questions that make
you think, and they deal with subjects like binge eating, boredom eating and
similar. I guess the difference is that we talk about the behavior, and
what emotions are present sad, lonely and so on but no one person is singled
out. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:02:16 -0800, Fred
wrote:



On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:30:07 +1100, "Kelly" wrote:

"SPOONS" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
Hi all,

I was just on Dr.Phil's web site and I was reading a little bit about
his
"Weight Loss Solution". I find that it sounds so much like WW's
program.
He says write down everything you eat in your food journal, drink lots
of
water, do decaf instead of caffeinated, eat fruits & veggies &
exercise.
Sure sounds like WW's to me.

Has anyone else noticed the similarities? Is anyone doing Dr.Phil's
"Weight
Loss Solution"?

Take care,
SPOONS 178/156/140
WW's Goal 158, Lifetime Jan 2004
Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs
My photo food log http://www.fotolog.net/giggles


Only difference IMO is that he seems to be able to address and make
people
acknowledge why they got so overweight in the first place.. Which is
similar to WW, but I don't think the meeting setting in WW ever made me
think about why I ate when I was happy, sad, bored, tired, etc... But,
I
am a Dr Phil devotee so maybe I just can't see through him objectively..
Kelly in Oz

Well, that may be a big part of it. WW does not throw very much
psychological accounting into things altho, it does crop up indirectly
and through meetings. But whereas Dr Phil is probably a more
one-on-one shrink/counselor, WW's leaders are not. But I don't think
WW addresses such issues head-on and does not delve heavily into
people's flaws!!!!

My thoughts exactly! If a ww meeting were aired on television, no one
would tune
in - it holds no entertainment value. Television shows are going for
ratings.
I'm sure thousands of overweight people are weeded out in order to just
find one
that would make a good television rating candidate. I doubt I ever would
have
made it on the show, don't have anything that Dr. Phil could delve deep
enough
into or would be interesting to any others. Overweight mom who wasn't
abused in
childhood, didn't eat her way to bury those feelings ... no good
entertainment
value there. g

I haven't been to a ww meeting, but I doubt they have the time to get into
each
persons individual character flaws to find what drove them to eat (if
anything
did). I've heard others say that it has been touched on, but in a more
general
dosage. Guess it then is up to the individual to do the work to delve
further
inside themselves to find answers and get the help they need/want. Dr.
Phil is an
hour long television show, that more than likely takes several hours to
tape.
Meetings and interviews are held beforehand, I would be willing to bet
that much
more individual time is spent to get to the *good stuff* and air it
publicly.

To me, this goes right back to the original *is it similar to ww*. Yup!
Even
with the pychological thing. Not everyone who is into the Dr. Phil diet
is going
to receive individual counseling to solve their problems, but since HE
suggests
you dig inside yourselves, they will. Yet ww taps into the same idea,
briefly,
yet everyone seems to ignore it.

Joyce

I like this analogy, and if you want to put it in those terms, he is like
individual therapy and WW is like group therapy, Lee
Amberle3 wrote in message
...
Now understand that this is coming from someone who hasn't been to a WW
meeting in 15+ years, and hasn't read Dr. Phil's book....

I think that the basics of it are incredibly similar. I think that the
difference lies in Dr. Phil's more obvious focus on the internal dialogs
and struggles that one faces when approaching weight loss. As someone
with a psychology degree myself I'm a big fan of the "have to know where
you've been to know where you're going" theory. I think that Dr. Phil's
program is essentially WW with psychological self-assessment as an
entree instead of a side dish.

We've seen it before, people who swear that the WW program didn't "work"
for them. Of course it works for them. They didn't work for them.
They weren't mentally in a place they were able to fully commit to the
program.

Amberle3

SPOONS wrote:

Hi all,

I was just on Dr.Phil's web site and I was reading a little bit about
his
"Weight Loss Solution". I find that it sounds so much like WW's
program.
He says write down everything you eat in your food journal, drink lots
of
water, do decaf instead of caffeinated, eat fruits & veggies & exercise.
Sure sounds like WW's to me.

Has anyone else noticed the similarities? Is anyone doing Dr.Phil's
"Weight
Loss Solution"?

Take care,
SPOONS 178/156/140
WW's Goal 158, Lifetime Jan 2004
Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs
My photo food log http://www.fotolog.net/giggles

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