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What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not

Susan
260/219/160

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3weeks 1days 16:26hours of being smoke-free, 914 cigs not smoked,
$169.09 saved, 3day 4:10hours of my life saved

"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
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What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not


Here's a question for you. You've now found a healthier way of eating and
you are losing weight - right? Once you reach your goal, do you plan to go
back to your old way of eating? No - right? (the answer should be an
emphatic NO).

That's where alot of "diets" go wrong. Yeah, you "diet" and lose weight
but when these people reach goal, the go off the "diet" and go back to their
old way of eating. Of course that old way of eating made them fat once, it
will make them fat again. They didn't learn a damned thing by doing what
they did.

Successful weight loss stories always include a LONG TERM change in
lifestyle that includes both food and exercise. They change their way of
eating (woe) and way of life (wol). Those are the terms we use in here.
"diet" should be considered a 4 letter word. :-)

Diets are for people who want to yoyo through life. WOE and WOL are for
those who intend to stay healthy for the remainder of our life.

"JayJay" wrote in message
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"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
...
What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not


Here's a question for you. You've now found a healthier way of eating
and
you are losing weight - right? Once you reach your goal, do you plan to
go
back to your old way of eating? No - right? (the answer should be an
emphatic NO).

That's where alot of "diets" go wrong. Yeah, you "diet" and lose weight
but when these people reach goal, the go off the "diet" and go back to
their
old way of eating. Of course that old way of eating made them fat once,
it
will make them fat again. They didn't learn a damned thing by doing
what
they did.

Successful weight loss stories always include a LONG TERM change in
lifestyle that includes both food and exercise. They change their way of
eating (woe) and way of life (wol). Those are the terms we use in here.
"diet" should be considered a 4 letter word. :-)

Diets are for people who want to yoyo through life. WOE and WOL are for
those who intend to stay healthy for the remainder of our life.


This is why in spite of using a diet to lose weight, I plan on using a new
WOE to keep it off. Nice thing about this fast is that as I incorporate
foods back into my life, I can just completely avoid the stuff I shouldn't
eat and build the habit of eating better from scratch (and living better).
It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going to
be in one situation and well planned)

Jenn

"Jennifer Austin" wrote in message
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It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going to
be in one situation and well planned)

My guess is that even that cheesecake isn't going to taste like you remembered -- it
will be too sweet and too heavy and your mouth will have that icky oily feel and
it'll lay on your stomach like a rock after you eat it because your body isn't used
to heavy sugary fatty cruddy "food" anymore. I'm only slightly kidding. :-)

Mary M

"Mary M - Ohio" wrote in message
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"Jennifer Austin" wrote in message
...
It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss
it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going
to
be in one situation and well planned)

My guess is that even that cheesecake isn't going to taste like you
remembered -- it
will be too sweet and too heavy and your mouth will have that icky oily
feel and
it'll lay on your stomach like a rock after you eat it because your body
isn't used
to heavy sugary fatty cruddy "food" anymore. I'm only slightly kidding.
:-)

Mary M


And that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. That's kind of what
happened with me with cigarettes.

My friend who lost weight years ago and kept it off said she went 10 years
without a fast food hamburger and then one day she decided to stop at McD's.
It made her ill and she couldn't finish it. She hasn't had another one
since. I know what you're referring to!

Jenn

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:50:01 -0500, "Jennifer Austin"
wrote:

My friend who lost weight years ago and kept it off said she went 10 years
without a fast food hamburger and then one day she decided to stop at McD's.
It made her ill and she couldn't finish it. She hasn't had another one
since. I know what you're referring to!

Even without fasting - that same has happened to me over time.
Donuts, fast food, etc... all of them make me feel ill after eating
and leave that greasy taste in your mouth (Cat tongue)...

I'm even at the point where I can't stand the smell of going into a
fast food joint - all the oil and cleaner and slippery floors - it
just makes me ill.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:57:45 -0400, "Mary M - Ohio"
wrote:

"Jennifer Austin" wrote in message
...
It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going to
be in one situation and well planned)

My guess is that even that cheesecake isn't going to taste like you remembered -- it
will be too sweet and too heavy and your mouth will have that icky oily feel and
it'll lay on your stomach like a rock after you eat it because your body isn't used
to heavy sugary fatty cruddy "food" anymore. I'm only slightly kidding. :-)

Mary M


I dunno. The cheesecake I had the other night at Ruth's Chris was
really good :-). It was the sort I particularly like, with the inside
very sour-creamy and not too sweet or sticky. But not something for
everyday!

Chris

In article , "Susan Jones-Anderson"
wrote:

What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not

Susan
260/219/160

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3weeks 1days 16:26hours of being smoke-free, 914 cigs not smoked,
$169.09 saved, 3day 4:10hours of my life saved



I have been on my weight loss journey for the last seven years. I've
only had one instance where I gained--went over my goal weight by 15
pounds--and that was because I got complacent and lazy about tracking
intake. I know I have to stick to my calorie allowance or gain--even
though I exercise regularly.

It comes down to this: My WOE is for the rest of my life. Exercise is
for the rest of my life. It has to be a permanent life change, or it
will never last.

Amy
168/115

"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote
What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not


They only "dieted" Susan - they didn't change.

Change isn't so hard, resistance to change is painful.

--
Walking on . . .
Laurie in Maine
207/110 60 inches of attitude!
Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03

It starts with the major commercial and published diets, including
this last one in which my wallet was not also on a diet (losing money
to its weight-watcher group meeting--I had gone there for a year with
nearly no results, but I still had the entire diet plan in my
possession and used it for many months).

The meeting groups (and some health clubs) play a shell game with us
who have serious weight problems, because the bulk of their clientele
(and there have been studies showing this) have about 20 pounds to
lose. Many have less, and some have a cosmetic few to lose. ONE SIZE
DOES NOT FIT ALL!

(This is why I am not surprised at why that in-your-face Dr. Phil has
gotten into the game lately. Us ex-New Yorkers like him!)

Commercial diet hucksters and the national media write Cinderella
stories (those before-and-after airbrushed photos included), use
phrases such as, "It won't be long before you're eating what your
skinny friends can eat," and talk about the "after" dress sizes of
their "results not typical" stars in vanity sizing terms.

I recently invented my own diet, which evolved out of my very last,
gimmicky commercial one. For my part, I consider that I am keeping 80
pounds from returning.

Oh, and I made sure my current health club is not the kind that
follows you around with a tape measure and a clipboard (and weigh-ins,
etc.), and more or less leaves you alone. I can't afford a personal
trainer, but neither do I lack one since I am just in that weight room
for routine toning and I don't expect atypical results.


Tina
226/197/146/143

Balanced
Yesterday, I ate 1,436 Calories
I am not couting exercise or activity "points"
I probably did too much yesterday, because I could not sleep much @
night


"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message ...
What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not

Susan
260/219/160

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3weeks 1days 16:26hours of being smoke-free, 914 cigs not smoked,
$169.09 saved, 3day 4:10hours of my life saved