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Old August 29th, 2004, 06:20 PM
Kasey
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If I start entering data into the online version and then purchase the
PC version, can I import my data?


Not with the current version. That's why I haven't bought the PC
version -- I have nearly a year of daily information online.


Kasey
365/245/???
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Old August 30th, 2004, 01:09 AM
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On 29 Aug 2004 01:33:58 GMT, Ignoramus3773
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My only suggestion regarding your weight loss is to be extremely
conservative and not go too far. There is not a great deal of evidence
that weight loss at your age leads to great health improvements.

So, I would think, cutting some junk foods etc, and exercising a bit
more, can very well help you lose 20 lbs or so, and that's all you
need. I would also definitely consult with a doctor of some sorts.

i


Well, I've found weight loss at age 56 to be well worth the effort.
Will it extend my life span? Dunno, but I doubt it will hurt. And I
think there's little doubt it will keep the machine functioning better
for whatever years I do have. And there is no doubt whatever that I
feel better, look better, and am happier with myself.

Chris
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 30th, 2004, 01:09 AM
Chris Braun
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On 29 Aug 2004 01:33:58 GMT, Ignoramus3773
wrote:

My only suggestion regarding your weight loss is to be extremely
conservative and not go too far. There is not a great deal of evidence
that weight loss at your age leads to great health improvements.

So, I would think, cutting some junk foods etc, and exercising a bit
more, can very well help you lose 20 lbs or so, and that's all you
need. I would also definitely consult with a doctor of some sorts.

i


Well, I've found weight loss at age 56 to be well worth the effort.
Will it extend my life span? Dunno, but I doubt it will hurt. And I
think there's little doubt it will keep the machine functioning better
for whatever years I do have. And there is no doubt whatever that I
feel better, look better, and am happier with myself.

Chris
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 30th, 2004, 01:11 AM
Chris Braun
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:00:26 +0200, "Lictor"
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It does, but there is a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't make
up for the lack of nutriments and the lack of stores to fight off
dehydration and malnutrition, which are major problems in very old folks.


Um, some of us don't consider 60 "very old" !

Chris (age 56)
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 30th, 2004, 01:11 AM
Chris Braun
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:00:26 +0200, "Lictor"
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It does, but there is a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't make
up for the lack of nutriments and the lack of stores to fight off
dehydration and malnutrition, which are major problems in very old folks.


Um, some of us don't consider 60 "very old" !

Chris (age 56)
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 30th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Beverly
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"Chris Braun" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:00:26 +0200, "Lictor"
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It does, but there is a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't

make
up for the lack of nutriments and the lack of stores to fight off
dehydration and malnutrition, which are major problems in very old folks.


Um, some of us don't consider 60 "very old" !

Chris (age 56)
262/141/ (145-150)


I *know* I don't consider 60 old!

Beverly (fast approaching 62)

177/146/140


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Old August 30th, 2004, 01:42 AM
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Chris Braun wrote:

Um, some of us don't consider 60 "very old" !


Seems younger all the time, doesn't it? s

Remember "Don't trust anyone over 30"? (were we nuts?)

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Old August 30th, 2004, 03:45 AM
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On 30 Aug 2004 01:43:29 GMT, Ignoramus17461
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In article , Chris Braun wrote:
On 29 Aug 2004 01:33:58 GMT, Ignoramus3773
wrote:

My only suggestion regarding your weight loss is to be extremely
conservative and not go too far. There is not a great deal of evidence
that weight loss at your age leads to great health improvements.

So, I would think, cutting some junk foods etc, and exercising a bit
more, can very well help you lose 20 lbs or so, and that's all you
need. I would also definitely consult with a doctor of some sorts.

i


Well, I've found weight loss at age 56 to be well worth the effort.
Will it extend my life span? Dunno, but I doubt it will hurt. And I
think there's little doubt it will keep the machine functioning better
for whatever years I do have. And there is no doubt whatever that I
feel better, look better, and am happier with myself.


Chris, you were in a much worse shape, weightwise, than the OP... A
different situation.

i


True, but should I have stopped losing 20 or 30 pounds ago?

Chris
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 31st, 2004, 04:07 AM
MH
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"SnugBear" wrote in message
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Chris Braun wrote:

Um, some of us don't consider 60 "very old" !


Seems younger all the time, doesn't it? s

Remember "Don't trust anyone over 30"? (were we nuts?)


I was a little young at the time, but I remember the movie "Wild in the
Streets" with Shelly Winters. A classic!

Martha


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Old August 31st, 2004, 12:17 PM
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"GaryG" wrote in message ...
"Top Spin" wrote in message
Each time you weigh yourself and record it in WeightWare, the program
performs some fairly complex analysis on your recorded weigh-ins, and


What "complex analysis" could you possibly do?


Several, actually.

To filter out the normal daily ups and downs in body weight (2-4 lb
fluctuations are common due to hydration levels, bowel movements, time of
the month for women, etc.) it calculates your Moving Average Weight using an
"exponentially smoothed moving average" technique. Your moving average
weight is a better representation of your "true" weight than any daily
weigh-in.


I agree with this -- calculating the moving average really helped. But
this isn't really a "complex analysis", at least not in excel:

today's average = yesterday's average + (today's weight - yesterday's
average)*10%

To calculate your weight trend over time (i.e., your weekly rate of weight
change, and your daily calorie deficit/surplus), it uses a technique called
"linear regression". This takes your recorded weigh-ins and analyzes it the
same way that stock market analysts analyze the daily fluctuations of the
stock market (it's also the same way that scientists analyze data in
scientific experiments to discern the underlying patterns).


I think this is needlessly complicating things. Just looking at the
stupid graph gives one so much more understandable feedback than
voodoo analysis tools.

These same techniques have been promoted for quite some time for weight loss
(e.g., The "Hacker's Diet"
http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html ), but as far as I know
they have never been incorporated into an easy-to-use program.


true enough, though I find excel pretty easy to use

By keeping track of your weight trend numbers, you can tell whether your
diet and exercise program is on track, and get advanced warning if it is
getting off track. For instance, last April 18th, my 30-day daily weight
trend was -417 calories per day (in other words, I was losing a little over
0.8 lbs per week - a good rate of loss). But, over the next couple of
weeks, the trend started moving towards zero. This provided me with several
weeks worth of advance notice that my program was getting off track. I
became more conscious of my eating habits, and more dedicated to my exercise
program until I gradually got it back under control.


yes, I found the interaction with my scale weight and the moving
average to be very interesting. The moving average moves SLOWLY down
to match the scale weight, so as long as your scale weight is under
the moving average you're doing OK.

Compared to calorie counting and calories burned estimating, your daily body
weight is precisely known. The analysis of it doesn't tell you whether you
should exercise another 10 minutes or skip the pie, but it can tell you
(with a high degree of precision) whether or not you are moving in the right
direction. With this information, you can decide for yourself how to
approach the exercise and the pie.


yes, the moving average is basically a very good number to key
everything else off of.
worked for me!

Heywood
232/182 2/15/04 - 8/30/04
 




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