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Old October 14th, 2003, 02:17 AM
Rayvaun
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I've been on Atkins since July. I started at 235 and now I'm around 210. My
goal is 185.
This past month I began excercising and weight training. Cardio 5 days a
week and lifting on 3. At first the pounds started to melt off. Almost a
half pound a day! Recently though it appears I'm gaining again. I dropped to
207 an then out of the blue I jumped back up to 209. All in the course of a
week or two. Do I need to back off on carb intake or is it the old cliche,
"muscle weighs more than fat"?

-Ray-


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Old October 14th, 2003, 02:45 AM
Brian Worthey
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"Rayvaun" wrote in message
news
I've been on Atkins since July. I started at 235 and now I'm around 210.
My
goal is 185.
This past month I began excercising and weight training. Cardio 5 days a
week and lifting on 3. At first the pounds started to melt off. Almost a
half pound a day! Recently though it appears I'm gaining again. I dropped

to
207 an then out of the blue I jumped back up to 209. All in the course of

a
week or two. Do I need to back off on carb intake or is it the old cliche,
"muscle weighs more than fat"?

-Ray-


I don't think there is anything cliche about it. I would even venture to
say it is fact. Since you are doing the weight training you are going to be
adding muscle, so your weight will probably fluctuate. If you don't like
the changes, back off the weight training, do less weight, but only do more
repititions. Thes will still add muscle because you will be toning. You
might already know all of this, if so, sorry for the redundancy.

B-Worthey


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Old October 14th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Dave H
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"Brian Worthey" wrote in message
...

"Rayvaun" wrote in message
news
I've been on Atkins since July. I started at 235 and now I'm around 210.

My
goal is 185.
This past month I began excercising and weight training. Cardio 5 days a
week and lifting on 3. At first the pounds started to melt off. Almost a
half pound a day! Recently though it appears I'm gaining again. I

dropped
to
207 an then out of the blue I jumped back up to 209. All in the course

of
a
week or two. Do I need to back off on carb intake or is it the old

cliche,
"muscle weighs more than fat"?

-Ray-


I don't think there is anything cliche about it. I would even venture to
say it is fact.


Careful. A pound of muscle weighs exactly as much as a pound of fat.
However that pound of muscle is denser than the pound of fat, so it takes up
less space.


Since you are doing the weight training you are going to be
adding muscle, so your weight will probably fluctuate. If you don't like
the changes, back off the weight training, do less weight, but only do

more
repititions. Thes will still add muscle because you will be toning.


What is toning? Muscle definition? This is just having muscle and ALSO
having low body fat. Less weight and more repetitions is moving towards
wasting your time. Gaining muscle mass is NOT that easy.

dave h


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Old October 14th, 2003, 01:59 PM
Roger Zoul
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Rayvaun wrote:
:: I've been on Atkins since July. I started at 235 and now I'm around
:: 210. My goal is 185.
:: This past month I began excercising and weight training. Cardio 5
:: days a week and lifting on 3. At first the pounds started to melt
:: off. Almost a half pound a day! Recently though it appears I'm
:: gaining again. I dropped to 207 an then out of the blue I jumped
:: back up to 209. All in the course of a week or two. Do I need to
:: back off on carb intake or is it the old cliche, "muscle weighs more
:: than fat"?
::

What your eating and relax. Continue to work out as you have and the fat
will continue to disappear as long as you are not eating too much. Also,
starting tracking your calorie intake on fitday.com to be sure you aren't
eating too much. Don't get freaked over a 2 lb increase in weight over the
short term. Pay more attention to your measurements than to scale weight,
because lots of things influence scale weight besides bodyfat.


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Old October 14th, 2003, 03:17 PM
bowman
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Dave H wrote:

Less weight and more repetitions is moving towards
wasting your time.


Some people report success with German Volume Training. If nothing else, it
is a lesson in humility as that weight that was so easy for the first 4 set
of 10 reps gets heavier and heavier for the remaining 6 sets.
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Old October 14th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Dave H
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"bowman" wrote in message
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Dave H wrote:

Less weight and more repetitions is moving towards
wasting your time.


Some people report success with German Volume Training. If nothing else,

it
is a lesson in humility as that weight that was so easy for the first 4

set
of 10 reps gets heavier and heavier for the remaining 6 sets.


I get the feeling that the person I was replying to didn't have German
Volume Training in mind.

dave h


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Old October 14th, 2003, 04:22 PM
Bob M
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:14:00 -0500, Dave H
wrote:

"bowman" wrote in message
...
Dave H wrote:

Less weight and more repetitions is moving towards
wasting your time.


Some people report success with German Volume Training. If nothing else,

it
is a lesson in humility as that weight that was so easy for the first 4

set
of 10 reps gets heavier and heavier for the remaining 6 sets.


I get the feeling that the person I was replying to didn't have German
Volume Training in mind.

dave h




I agree with more weight and less repititions, EXCEPT that I always get
hurt after a while doing that. This is just me, as I tend to gain too much
strength too quickly and I have a high threshold for pain (when I'm working
out), both of which can lead to injury.

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Bob M in CT
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Old October 14th, 2003, 08:00 PM
Lucas J. Bowser
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"Rayvaun" wrote in message
news
I've been on Atkins since July. I started at 235 and now I'm around 210.
My
goal is 185.
This past month I began excercising and weight training. Cardio 5 days a
week and lifting on 3. At first the pounds started to melt off. Almost a
half pound a day! Recently though it appears I'm gaining again. I dropped

to
207 an then out of the blue I jumped back up to 209. All in the course of

a
week or two. Do I need to back off on carb intake or is it the old cliche,
"muscle weighs more than fat"?

-Ray-


Many people suggest there is an upper threshold to the amount of muscle you
can gain in a short period of time. I've heard about half a pound a week is
tops. As far as being concerned about two pounds, I wouldn't be unless it
keeps going up and up. Two pounds is well within my daily weight
fluctuation. If I weigh myself in the morning vs. evening I typically see
about a three pound difference and I am about the same size (weight wise) as
you.

Luke


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Old October 15th, 2003, 12:35 AM
Brian Worthey
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"Dave H" wrote in message
Careful. A pound of muscle weighs exactly as much as a pound of fat.
However that pound of muscle is denser than the pound of fat, so it takes

up
less space.


You make it sound like the question of, what weighs more, a ton of bricks or
a ton of feathers. Obviously 1 lb. = 1 lb. Someone else was also talking
about paying attention to your measurements, which is good advice. I guess
the bottom line that I"m getting to is that if you are adding muscle mass
and while losing fat, your weight is going to stay the same or increase,
because of the differences in muscle and fat, which as you stated may relate
more to the fact that it takes up less space.


What is toning? Muscle definition? This is just having muscle and ALSO
having low body fat. Less weight and more repetitions is moving towards
wasting your time. Gaining muscle mass is NOT that easy.


How is less weight and more repititions wasting your time? One doesn't need
a lot of weight to make progress. Again, maybe I need to word things
differently. You say gaining muscle mass is not that easy, maybe for some
people it is not, but in my experience, lighter weight and more reps will
not lead to a great deal of muscle gain. Higher weight/lower reps has
always built mass for me.

dave h




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Old October 15th, 2003, 03:29 AM
JC Der Koenig
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Have you ever had any muscle that wasn't completely hidden by a thick layer
of fat?

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Brian Worthey" wrote in message
.. .

"Dave H" wrote in message
Careful. A pound of muscle weighs exactly as much as a pound of fat.
However that pound of muscle is denser than the pound of fat, so it

takes
up
less space.


You make it sound like the question of, what weighs more, a ton of bricks

or
a ton of feathers. Obviously 1 lb. = 1 lb. Someone else was also talking
about paying attention to your measurements, which is good advice. I

guess
the bottom line that I"m getting to is that if you are adding muscle mass
and while losing fat, your weight is going to stay the same or increase,
because of the differences in muscle and fat, which as you stated may

relate
more to the fact that it takes up less space.


What is toning? Muscle definition? This is just having muscle and ALSO
having low body fat. Less weight and more repetitions is moving towards
wasting your time. Gaining muscle mass is NOT that easy.


How is less weight and more repititions wasting your time? One doesn't

need
a lot of weight to make progress. Again, maybe I need to word things
differently. You say gaining muscle mass is not that easy, maybe for some
people it is not, but in my experience, lighter weight and more reps will
not lead to a great deal of muscle gain. Higher weight/lower reps has
always built mass for me.

dave h






 




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