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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James Warren
wrote: I'm sure it probably happens from time to time. Yeah, just like it rains in Seattle from time to time! The FDA has to take some of the blame for failing to do due diligence. The FDA is part of the problem, not the solution! Sheesh. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:44:30 -0300, James Warren
wrote: [...] Did you follow any of mine? I didn't think so. Actually I did. Then why did you ask me about books, for example? I listed an entire page of them. See? You can't lie any better than Trader can. “If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.” -- Mark Twain -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James Warren
wrote: Read this book, James, you'll find out all you ever wanted to know about your exalted medical and scientific communities: Fraud and Misconduct in Biomedical Research http://www.amazon.com/Fraud-Miscondu.../dp/1853157864 It's expensive, but your library can probably get it for you, especially if you live near a major university. Pay particular attention to the parts on Robert Gallo, the AIDS Inc. crime lord you've sworn allegiance to. Warning: Don't eat a heavy meal before you start reading it! -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On 22/05/2012 9:48 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:33:08 -0300, James wrote: [...] Of your list, I know something about Avandia, Actos and HRT. I don't think there is evidence of any deliberate attempt to deceive or harm anyone. Mistakes happen. You were on the O.J. jury, weren't you? Sheesh. Do you mean to say that there is evidence of deception and deliberate harm? Show it to us please. Did you not read that article I posted today? That's typical, it's not an anomaly. How can a person of even normal intelligence come away with any other conclusion, that they did it deliberately, and with deception! And they do it all the time! Now stop telling us to show you stuff; go find it yourself! If you have to do a little work to find this stuff, you might actually be more inclined to believe it. One anecdote does not rampant practice make. -- -jw |
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On 22/05/2012 9:51 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James wrote: I'm sure it probably happens from time to time. Yeah, just like it rains in Seattle from time to time! The FDA has to take some of the blame for failing to do due diligence. The FDA is part of the problem, not the solution! Sheesh. I'm sad to have to tell you this but we don't live in a perfect world. -- -jw |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On 22/05/2012 9:53 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:44:30 -0300, James wrote: [...] Did you follow any of mine? I didn't think so. Actually I did. Then why did you ask me about books, for example? I listed an entire page of them. I don't recall even one in reply to me. How about just one from' the other side? See? You can't lie any better than Trader can. “If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.” -- Mark Twain -- -jw |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On 22/05/2012 10:12 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James wrote: Read this book, James, you'll find out all you ever wanted to know about your exalted medical and scientific communities: Fraud and Misconduct in Biomedical Research http://www.amazon.com/Fraud-Miscondu.../dp/1853157864 It's expensive, but your library can probably get it for you, especially if you live near a major university. Whoa. That's a pricey book. I don't see any reviews for the book so it is hard to assess its value. Pay particular attention to the parts on Robert Gallo, the AIDS Inc. crime lord you've sworn allegiance to. Warning: Don't eat a heavy meal before you start reading it! -- -jw |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On 23/05/2012 12:10 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:45:08 -0300, James wrote: Read this book, James, you'll find out all you ever wanted to know about your exalted medical and scientific communities: Fraud and Misconduct in Biomedical Research http://www.amazon.com/Fraud-Miscondu.../dp/1853157864 It's expensive, but your library can probably get it for you, especially if you live near a major university. Whoa. That's a pricey book. I don't see any reviews for the book so it is hard to assess its value. That's why I said you can probably find it at your library! Jeez, what a freakin' maroon. I've never, ever encountered anyone who could find excuse after excuse for remaining ignorant, like you can. You da man! Under the circumstances I find it difficult to go very far out of my way on your recommendation. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman -- -jw |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On 23/05/2012 12:11 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:38:12 -0300, James wrote: Then why did you ask me about books, for example? I listed an entire page of them. I don't recall even one in reply to me. How about just one from' the other side? That's your problem. So you refuse. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman -- -jw |
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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.
On 23/05/2012 12:12 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:37:02 -0300, James wrote: The FDA is part of the problem, not the solution! Sheesh. I'm sad to have to tell you this but we don't live in a perfect world. It's about time that you've finally have figured that out! You have been a fine exemplar of that all along. -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman -- -jw |
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