Almost everyone saw the physical proof that time passes in jumps -only that the majority ignored it (JP)

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On Oct 25, 3:13 pm, "Spaceman"
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Dear jan,
The effect you are talking about is different for peoples views
because some people see at different frame rates.

Here is the real basics of it.
If you see at 30 frames per second and the wheel is spinning
at 30 rotations per second, if the are in sync, it will look like
the wheel is not spinning.
If you see at 30 frames per second and the wheel is spinning
at 29 revs per second, it will look as if the wheel is spinning
slowly backwards.
...
James M Driscoll Jr
Discoverer of the Clock Malfunction Fact.
Spaceman

YES, I agree with what you are saying above - after all time passes
differently for each person.

No,
Time does not pass by differently for each person.



For example, for older people time passes
faster than for young people. Thus each person is going to see this
interference of his or her "jumping" time with spinning objects at a
different frequency. Unfortunately, I do NOT have equipment to measure
how fast time passes for each category of people. This is why I am
asking for help - is there anyopne who could measure it.

Time does not "pass by" at all.
Time is an abstract counting system invented by humans.
the only thing time does is count the motion of a ticker moving
a certain amount of motions for a certain amount of distance.
Time is an abstract counting method of motions only.
Scientifically is passed by as a single standard of measurement
for all people, places and things.


Your explanation is known by people - on the same principle work
"stroboscopic lamps" when used e.g. for fine-tuning of cars. The point
is, however, that perople do NOT realise that when they see this
phenomenon in a daylight, e.g. while looking at propeller of an
airplane just being started, they actually see mechanism of time at
work.

No they don't see time work, they see a frame per second rate thier
eyes can achieve and nothing more than that is going on.
The only mechanism of time is an abstracted one.
Time is a human abstraction of a counting of motion.
It is a scientific counting method create by humans for science.

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On Oct 25, 1:39 am, John J wrote:
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No. I have never seen that happen in ordinary daylight. I have seen it
in light that flickers, and of course in motion picture film, and from
some singleframed video. But never in natural light.
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Very strange that you never have seen it. Just a few hours ago I
induced this effect in a daylight with the use of a Wimshurst machine
that I have in my home.

Nope. I see no flickers in ordinary light. Not with a bicycle wheel nor
anything else you mention.

On Oct 26, 5:40*pm, "Spaceman"
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Time does not "pass by" at all.
Time is an abstract counting system invented by humans.
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Is this all that you can claim to counterargue my proof that time
passes in jums? I pinpointed a proof that time passes in jums. What
you can indicate to prove that your claim has any merit? Without any
evidence or proof everyone can claim what you just claim - the point
is that it is just a belief adhered by old "orthodox" sxcientists.
Show any proof, as I did in my original post above, that you are
right! Until you are able to show such a proof, my findings and proof
stands - menas time really passes in short jums, while spinning
objects certify that this is so. Don't just spit at my proof, but show
evidence if you claim otherwise.

With the totaliztic salute,
Jan Pajak

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On Oct 26, 5:40 pm, "Spaceman"
wrote:
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Time does not "pass by" at all.
Time is an abstract counting system invented by humans.
...
Is this all that you can claim to counterargue my proof that time
passes in jums? I pinpointed a proof that time passes in jums. What
you can indicate to prove that your claim has any merit? Without any
evidence or proof everyone can claim what you just claim - the point
is that it is just a belief adhered by old "orthodox" sxcientists.

What I stated is a physical fact. Check the history of clocks.
Check the History of time.
Check some facts instead of trying to change the aleady known
facts.

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On Oct 26, 5:40 pm, "Spaceman"
wrote:
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Time does not "pass by" at all.
Time is an abstract counting system invented by humans.
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Is this all that you can claim to counterargue my proof that time
passes in jums? I pinpointed a proof that time passes in jumps.

All you have observed is that you perceive time in a manner that shows
'gaps' in experience - a discontinuous effect. Perception is
experiential and necessarily after-the-fact, always lagging, and our
brain fills-in to anticipate physical reality.

When you walk you are falling, but under control. When you (in
particular I think) perceive time your brain is doing the same.

On Oct 27, 8:33*pm, wrote:
On Oct 26, 5:40*pm, "Spaceman"
wrote:
... Time does not "pass by" at all.
Time is an abstract counting system invented by humans.

...
Is this all that you can claim to counterargue my proof that time
passes in jums? I pinpointed a proof that time passes in jums. What
you can indicate to prove that your claim has any merit?

You want to give us scientific proof. Okay, here's an axample.

1) Get hold of a high-speed camera: something that can run from 100
frames per second up to 1000 frames per second. By taking
photographic images you are removing "human perception" from the
experiment.

2) Capture a series of images.

3) If time moves in a jumping fashion then there should be consecutive
frames where the image DOES NOT change.

Dwib

John J wrote:
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All you have observed is that you perceive time in a manner that shows
'gaps' in experience - a discontinuous effect.
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YES, and this is why we have the experiemental proof that human time
passes in jumps. Whatever you write about this observation, it still
proves that humans live in a discrete manner, and the only explanation
for this fact is that human time passes in short jums (means time is
NOT continuous as the present science tries to tell people). In turn,
since time passes in jumps, this means that the explanation of time
provided by the "theory of everything" called the Concept of Dipolar
Gravity (see the web page " http://ufonauci.w.interia.pl/dipolar_gravity.htm
") is true and correct. So time vehicles can be build and can help
humans to live forever. Pity that instead helping me to build these
time vehicles which are able to defeat death, you just concentrate
your efforts on spitting at my scientific findings.

With the totaliztic slaute,
Jan Pajak

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John J wrote:
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All you have observed is that you perceive time in a manner that shows
'gaps' in experience - a discontinuous effect.
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YES, and this is why we have the experiemental proof that human time
passes in jumps.

You have no proof of anything regarding time. You have mild evidence
that the human brain does not experience things the very moment they
occur - there is a perceptual (experiential) lag while 'time' (the
physical world) moves on regardless.

Whatever you write about this observation, it still
proves that humans live in a discrete manner, and the only explanation
for this fact is that human time passes in short jums (means time is
NOT continuous as the present science tries to tell people).

No. Human perception might lag behind physical reality, but that does
not change the physical reality.

In turn,
since time passes in jumps,

You have no objective evidence of that so what follows is nonsense.

this means that the explanation of time
provided by the [... nonsense ...]

On Oct 30, 1:23*am, John J wrote:
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You have mild evidence
that the human brain does not experience things the very moment they
occur - there is a perceptual (experiential) lag while 'time' (the
physical world) moves on regardless.
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YES, I have proof that human brains does NOT exaperince things in a
continuous manner because human time passes in jumps. In turn you have
NO even a slightest shread of avidence in support of your claims.
Practically everyone can say NO to everything - but only a few sparse
people can provide evidence that their NO is correct. You obviously do
NOT belong to this category. So it seems that out of us two, you are
the who who speaks rubbish and tries to make water of brains of
readers! The mystery is, however, why you try to throw mud at my
findings? Is anyone paying you for turning internet into a gutter - as
explained on the web page
http://groups.google.com/group/talk....abc492dd893a64
?

With the totaliztic salute,
Jan Pajak

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On Oct 30, 1:23 am, John J wrote:
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You have mild evidence
that the human brain does not experience things the very moment they
occur - there is a perceptual (experiential) lag while 'time' (the
physical world) moves on regardless.
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YES, I have proof that human brains does NOT exaperince things in a
continuous manner because human time passes in jumps.

WARNING: to humans:
Humans do feel time in much smaller increments than the eyeballs
can record at.
Do not attempt to prove the human brain works in jumps,
especially not by placing a part of your body in the perceved
to be still spinning wheel.