Curves - Bad News

I found the following on the alt.gossip.celebrities ng:


-- Just so you know: Gary Heavin, the founder of the Waco, Texas-based
chain of exercise studios called Curves, is a heavy contributor to
several organizations allied with Operation Save America, the rather
more muscular successor to Operation Rescue, the anti-choice group.

The organizations he funds are spreading the lie that abortions lead
to an increased risk of breast cancer. Planned Parenthood says its
operations in Texas are being threatened by Heavin-funded clinics
based on the old therapeutic model "you must carry your child to
term."

In an article in Christianity Today, Heavin expressed pride in his
involvement with anti-choice groups, to which he donates 10 percent of
Curves' profits. You may do with this information what you will.

URL for the source.cops:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGLU4ULFV1.DTL

--
nimue

"There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight."
Max Bialystock

Do not taunt happy fun ball.
SNL

nimue wrote:
| I found the following on the alt.gossip.celebrities ng:
|
|
| -- Just so you know: Gary Heavin, the founder of the Waco, Texas-based
| chain of exercise studios called Curves, is a heavy contributor to
| several organizations allied with Operation Save America, the rather
| more muscular successor to Operation Rescue, the anti-choice group.
|
| The organizations he funds are spreading the lie that abortions lead
| to an increased risk of breast cancer. Planned Parenthood says its
| operations in Texas are being threatened by Heavin-funded clinics
| based on the old therapeutic model "you must carry your child to
| term."
|
| In an article in Christianity Today, Heavin expressed pride in his
| involvement with anti-choice groups, to which he donates 10 percent of
| Curves' profits. You may do with this information what you will.
|
| URL for the source.cops:
|
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGLU4ULFV1.DTL


Not to sound like JC, but what does this have to do with exercising at
Curves and losing fat?

--
Peter
270/220/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

marengo wrote:
nimue wrote:
I found the following on the alt.gossip.celebrities ng:


-- Just so you know: Gary Heavin, the founder of the Waco,
Texas-based chain of exercise studios called Curves, is a heavy
contributor to several organizations allied with Operation Save
America, the rather more muscular successor to Operation Rescue, the
anti-choice group.

The organizations he funds are spreading the lie that abortions lead
to an increased risk of breast cancer. Planned Parenthood says its
operations in Texas are being threatened by Heavin-funded clinics
based on the old therapeutic model "you must carry your child to
term."

In an article in Christianity Today, Heavin expressed pride in his
involvement with anti-choice groups, to which he donates 10 percent
of Curves' profits. You may do with this information what you will.

URL for the source.cops:


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGLU4ULFV1.DTL


Not to sound like JC, but what does this have to do with exercising at
Curves and losing fat?

People can decide where to exercise and lose weight. They may choose to
spend those dollars elsewhere if they know this about Curves. Of course,
others may choose to go there because of this. I think it has a lot to do
with where you choose to exercise. I know I will NEVER be going there now.
I considered it for when my current gym membership expires, but no way --
not now.

--
nimue

"There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight."
Max Bialystock

Do not taunt happy fun ball.
SNL

"nimue" wrote in message
...
I know I will NEVER be going there now.
: I considered it for when my current gym membership expires, but no
way --
: not now.
:
: --
: nimue
:


nor will i recommend it to others as an option for exercise.

"marengo" wrote in message
s.com...
nimue wrote:
| I found the following on the alt.gossip.celebrities ng:
|
|
| -- Just so you know: Gary Heavin, the founder of the Waco, Texas-based
| chain of exercise studios called Curves, is a heavy contributor to
| several organizations allied with Operation Save America, the rather
| more muscular successor to Operation Rescue, the anti-choice group.
|
| The organizations he funds are spreading the lie that abortions lead
| to an increased risk of breast cancer. Planned Parenthood says its
| operations in Texas are being threatened by Heavin-funded clinics
| based on the old therapeutic model "you must carry your child to
| term."
|
| In an article in Christianity Today, Heavin expressed pride in his
| involvement with anti-choice groups, to which he donates 10 percent of
| Curves' profits. You may do with this information what you will.
|
| URL for the source.cops:
|

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGLU4ULFV1.DTL


Not to sound like JC, but what does this have to do with exercising at
Curves and losing fat?

--
Peter

Peter,

It has everything to do with supporting a group that promotes anti-choice
for women. I for one wouldn't go to a "Curves" for anything. I would
rather work out at home or go to a different Gym. The thought of MY money
going to support the fanatics that shoot doctors and kill nurses and would
send women back to a hell of being slaves to their own biological processes
makes me sick.

You young ones may not remember what it was like in the days before abortion
was legal, but I REMEMBER! I remember the back alley abortionists and the
deaths and the women who were made infertile from sloppy and unsterilized
equipment and lack of access to safe recourse.

I remember the woman who had a solution of Lysol and Lux soap squirted into
her uterus which killed the fetus but also burnt and scarred the interior of
her womb so badly she could never conceive again.

I remember that there were women who used to shove a knitting needle or a
bent coat hanger up into their uterus to pierce the wall and cause it to
abort. This often resulted in horrible infection and often death.

I remember the rich girls who got pregnant and flew to the islands for a
safe abortion. The poor were left to the back alley abortionists.

I remember that abortionists were often women trying to help other women
without access to medical knowledge, drugs, tools and they resorted to
whatever they could and they often went to jail for long terms for it.

I remember that back in the days before abortion was legal, attitudes were
HORRIBLE and women who became pregnant were shamed, ridiculed, called
whores, forced to marry unwisely, forced to give up their babies when they
didn't want to.

NO woman in their right mind would want to go back to those days.

I too believe that a human life begins at conception, but I also believe
that it is a woman's right to decide if she is ready to carry another being
to full term.

Desperate women will do ANYTHING, legal or illegal to end a pregnancy if
they are so inclined. They must be protected and their health and safety
should be assured by safe and legal recourse!!!!!

--
Regards,
Evelyn

(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")

wow, wow, wow!
great post Evelyn!

--
rosie
http://www.moveon.org/front/
REDEFEAT BUSH!






"Evelyn Ruut" wrote in message
...
: "marengo" wrote in message
: s.com...
: nimue wrote:
: | I found the following on the alt.gossip.celebrities ng:
: |
: |
: | -- Just so you know: Gary Heavin, the founder of the Waco,
Texas-based
: | chain of exercise studios called Curves, is a heavy
contributor to
: | several organizations allied with Operation Save America, the
rather
: | more muscular successor to Operation Rescue, the anti-choice
group.
: |
: | The organizations he funds are spreading the lie that
abortions lead
: | to an increased risk of breast cancer. Planned Parenthood says
its
: | operations in Texas are being threatened by Heavin-funded
clinics
: | based on the old therapeutic model "you must carry your child
to
: | term."
: |
: | In an article in Christianity Today, Heavin expressed pride in
his
: | involvement with anti-choice groups, to which he donates 10
percent of
: | Curves' profits. You may do with this information what you
will.
: |
: | URL for the source.cops:
: |
:
:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGLU4ULFV1.DTL
:
:
: Not to sound like JC, but what does this have to do with
exercising at
: Curves and losing fat?
:
: --
: Peter
:
: Peter,
:
: It has everything to do with supporting a group that promotes
anti-choice
: for women. I for one wouldn't go to a "Curves" for anything. I
would
: rather work out at home or go to a different Gym. The thought of
MY money
: going to support the fanatics that shoot doctors and kill nurses
and would
: send women back to a hell of being slaves to their own biological
processes
: makes me sick.
:
: You young ones may not remember what it was like in the days
before abortion
: was legal, but I REMEMBER! I remember the back alley
abortionists and the
: deaths and the women who were made infertile from sloppy and
unsterilized
: equipment and lack of access to safe recourse.
:
: I remember the woman who had a solution of Lysol and Lux soap
squirted into
: her uterus which killed the fetus but also burnt and scarred the
interior of
: her womb so badly she could never conceive again.
:
: I remember that there were women who used to shove a knitting
needle or a
: bent coat hanger up into their uterus to pierce the wall and cause
it to
: abort. This often resulted in horrible infection and often
death.
:
: I remember the rich girls who got pregnant and flew to the islands
for a
: safe abortion. The poor were left to the back alley abortionists.
:
: I remember that abortionists were often women trying to help other
women
: without access to medical knowledge, drugs, tools and they
resorted to
: whatever they could and they often went to jail for long terms for
it.
:
: I remember that back in the days before abortion was legal,
attitudes were
: HORRIBLE and women who became pregnant were shamed, ridiculed,
called
: whores, forced to marry unwisely, forced to give up their babies
when they
: didn't want to.
:
: NO woman in their right mind would want to go back to those days.
:
: I too believe that a human life begins at conception, but I also
believe
: that it is a woman's right to decide if she is ready to carry
another being
: to full term.
:
: Desperate women will do ANYTHING, legal or illegal to end a
pregnancy if
: they are so inclined. They must be protected and their health
and safety
: should be assured by safe and legal recourse!!!!!
:
: --
: Regards,
: Evelyn
:
: (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox")
:
:

Evelyn Ruut wrote:
| "marengo" wrote in message
| s.com...
|| nimue wrote:
||| I found the following on the alt.gossip.celebrities ng:
|||
|||
||| -- Just so you know: Gary Heavin, the founder of the Waco,
||| Texas-based chain of exercise studios called Curves, is a heavy
||| contributor to several organizations allied with Operation Save
||| America, the rather more muscular successor to Operation Rescue,
||| the anti-choice group.
|||
||| The organizations he funds are spreading the lie that abortions lead
||| to an increased risk of breast cancer. Planned Parenthood says its
||| operations in Texas are being threatened by Heavin-funded clinics
||| based on the old therapeutic model "you must carry your child to
||| term."
|||
||| In an article in Christianity Today, Heavin expressed pride in his
||| involvement with anti-choice groups, to which he donates 10 percent
||| of Curves' profits. You may do with this information what you will.
|||
||| URL for the source.cops:
|||
||
|
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGLU4ULFV1.DTL
||
||
|| Not to sound like JC, but what does this have to do with exercising
|| at Curves and losing fat?
||
|| --
|| Peter
|
| Peter,
|
| It has everything to do with supporting a group that promotes
| anti-choice for women. I for one wouldn't go to a "Curves" for
| anything. I would rather work out at home or go to a different Gym.
| The thought of MY money going to support the fanatics that shoot
| doctors and kill nurses and would send women back to a hell of being
| slaves to their own biological processes makes me sick.
|
| You young ones may not remember what it was like in the days before
| abortion was legal, but I REMEMBER! I remember the back alley
| abortionists and the deaths and the women who were made infertile
| from sloppy and unsterilized equipment and lack of access to safe
| recourse.
|
| I remember the woman who had a solution of Lysol and Lux soap
| squirted into her uterus which killed the fetus but also burnt and
| scarred the interior of her womb so badly she could never conceive
| again.
|
| I remember that there were women who used to shove a knitting needle
| or a bent coat hanger up into their uterus to pierce the wall and
| cause it to abort. This often resulted in horrible infection and
| often death.
|
| I remember the rich girls who got pregnant and flew to the islands
| for a safe abortion. The poor were left to the back alley
| abortionists.
|
| I remember that abortionists were often women trying to help other
| women without access to medical knowledge, drugs, tools and they
| resorted to whatever they could and they often went to jail for long
| terms for it.
|
| I remember that back in the days before abortion was legal, attitudes
| were HORRIBLE and women who became pregnant were shamed, ridiculed,
| called whores, forced to marry unwisely, forced to give up their
| babies when they didn't want to.
|
| NO woman in their right mind would want to go back to those days.
|
| I too believe that a human life begins at conception, but I also
| believe that it is a woman's right to decide if she is ready to carry
| another being to full term.
|
| Desperate women will do ANYTHING, legal or illegal to end a pregnancy
| if they are so inclined. They must be protected and their health
| and safety should be assured by safe and legal recourse!!!!!

Guess that answered my question!

-
Peter
270/219/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Whether it's bad news or not is a matter of one's perspective. You
are assuming 100% of the people here have your same point of view.

... You may do with this information what you will.

How kind of you to allow others to make up their own mind! I'm
sure that will be appreciated

Shawn & Michelle wrote:
Whether it's bad news or not is a matter of one's perspective. You
are assuming 100% of the people here have your same point of view.

Actually, I knew some people would not agree with me. I am not stupid -- I
have met anti-choicers before, you know. However, I wanted a snazzy subject
line that people would be likely to read. It DID reflect my opinion, that's
true, but I am not optimistic enough to believe that everyone would share my
support of women's rights.

... You may do with this information what you will.

How kind of you to allow others to make up their own mind! I'm
sure that will be appreciated

--
nimue

"There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight."
Max Bialystock

Do not taunt happy fun ball.
SNL

nimue wrote:

have met anti-choicers before, you know. However, I wanted a snazzy subject
line that people would be likely to read. It DID reflect my opinion, that's
true, but I am not optimistic enough to believe that everyone would share my
support of women's rights.

Hmmmm. Nice spin there. "Anti-choicers" and "women's
rights." How do you feel about father's rights, unborn
babies rights, and partial-birth abortions?

Marsha/Ohio