Off Low carbs for 3 years, Any new info on counting carbs?

Hi All,
Been off L.C. for about three years. Ready to go back on. Is
there any new info on the way you count carbs or do you just add them
up plain and simple to figure your intake? Any new info would be
greatly appreciated....!

Happy Holidays!
Tony

On 24 Dec 2003 07:11:33 -0800, in a clarity of expression resembling
Cicero, (TonyD) wrote:

Hi All,
Been off L.C. for about three years. Ready to go back on. Is
there any new info on the way you count carbs or do you just add them
up plain and simple to figure your intake? Any new info would be
greatly appreciated....!

Happy Holidays!
Tony

If you're in the US, where fiber is listed under the carbs, subtract
fiber grams out. Also, any carb grams associated with sugar alcohols,
which do not increase most people's blood sugar

Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/

On 24 Dec 2003 07:11:33 -0800, (TonyD) wrote:

Hi All,
Been off L.C. for about three years. Ready to go back on. Is
there any new info on the way you count carbs or do you just add them
up plain and simple to figure your intake? Any new info would be
greatly appreciated....!

Fiber, you subtract the carbs for fiber now. They don't count, this
makes walnuts practically a "free food." (Three grams carb per ounce,
three grams fiber, net carbs equal zero.) You also need to find out
if you react to sugar alcohols. Rule of thumb, if they give you the
runs, you probably don't need to count the carbs. If sugar alcohol
doesn't make you gassy, and give you diarea, count them.

Welcome back,

Karen Rodgers

**********
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remove "_rice_" from my email address
**********

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:16:08 -0800, in a clarity of expression
resembling Cicero, Karen Rodgers
wrote:

if they give you the
runs, you probably don't need to count the [sugar alcohol] carbs. If sugar alcohol
doesn't make you gassy, and give you diarea, count them.

What kind of runs did you mean. if not diahrrea?

Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/

Frank Lynch wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:16:08 -0800, in a clarity of expression
resembling Cicero, Karen Rodgers
wrote:

if they give you the
runs, you probably don't need to count the [sugar alcohol] carbs.
If sugar alcohol doesn't make you gassy, and give you diarea, count
them.

What kind of runs did you mean. if not diahrrea?


Wait! what about E-tol?
That rarely gives gas or the runs!
How can you tell if it counts?

preesi

If you eat something with sugar alcohols in it and find you are eating a lot
more at your next meal, it's possible you got a bigger insulin spike than
you realized from the sugar alcohol.

Those of us with blood sugar meters can observe the rise. Sugar alcohols do
raise my blood sugar contrary to label claims. I don't get the runs from
them, though they do give me gas.

Finally, don't forget that the sugar alcohol laden foods are almost all HIGH
CALORIE. Low carbing used to work by helping you eliminate a lot of
calories from your diet because you couldn't eat junk food because it didn't
exists. Now that low carb junk food is in every convenience store, you can
easily eat an additional 1,000 calories a day of "low carb" bars, ice cream,
and candy. The calories alone may be enough to eliminate any caloric deficit
and stop weight loss.

The safest plan with the sugar alcohols is to count ALL the carbs listed on
the labels and all the calories until you establish whether you, personally,
can lose weight at a rate you are happy with while including them in your
diet. Some can, many cannot.
--
Jenny

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"Preesi" wrote in message
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Frank Lynch wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:16:08 -0800, in a clarity of expression
resembling Cicero, Karen Rodgers
wrote:

if they give you the
runs, you probably don't need to count the [sugar alcohol] carbs.
If sugar alcohol doesn't make you gassy, and give you diarea, count
them.

What kind of runs did you mean. if not diahrrea?


Wait! what about E-tol?
That rarely gives gas or the runs!
How can you tell if it counts?

preesi

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:45:15 GMT, Frank Lynch
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:16:08 -0800, in a clarity of expression
resembling Cicero, Karen Rodgers
wrote:

if they give you the
runs, you probably don't need to count the [sugar alcohol] carbs. If sugar alcohol
doesn't make you gassy, and give you diarea, count them.

What kind of runs did you mean. if not diahrrea?

Hey, cut me some slack, I had a root canal last week! I plead pain
pill induced mushy brain... :-)

Karen Rodgers

**********
Windbourne, folk singers of the future
http://www.windbourne.com/
remove "_rice_" from my email address
**********

Karen Rodgers wrote:
Fiber, you subtract the carbs for fiber now. They don't count, this
makes walnuts practically a "free food." (Three grams carb per ounce,
three grams fiber, net carbs equal zero.) You also need to find out
if you react to sugar alcohols. Rule of thumb, if they give you the
runs, you probably don't need to count the carbs. If sugar alcohol
doesn't make you gassy, and give you diarea, count them.

Walnuts labelled 3g carb, 3g fiber have already had the fiber
subtracted from the total. There is no miracle brand of carb-free
nuts.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

Walnuts labelled 3g carb, 3g fiber have already had the fiber
subtracted from the total. There is no miracle brand of carb-free
nuts.

Aren't nutrition labels regulated in some way? I mean, I realize that what they
put on the front will probably have the fiber subtracted, but the back? In the
US? Every product I've picked up that has something like "3 carbs!" on the
front, had a higher number of carbs on the back, then minus the fiber it
equaled the claim on the front.

"LCer09" wrote in message

Walnuts labelled 3g carb, 3g fiber have already had the fiber
subtracted from the total. There is no miracle brand of carb-free
nuts.

Aren't nutrition labels regulated in some way? I mean, I realize that
what they put on the front will probably have the fiber subtracted,
but the back? In the US? Every product I've picked up that has
something like "3 carbs!" on the front, had a higher number of carbs
on the back, then minus the fiber it equaled the claim on the front.

Yes, but the labels they are referencing are non-US/import labels, where
the Total carbs/fiber is shown in a slightly different manner.

--
revek
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