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Old August 26th, 2004, 02:44 AM
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"Boemsi" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:41:03 -0400, Dally wrote:

Ah, you sound young, Boemsi. It catches up with men, I assure you.


Ooh, I'm flattered! I've been waiting for that His father does have a
tendency to develop bit of a belly, got that after he hit 40, so we have
about 6 more years to go. As a contrast, all the women in my family have a
tendency towards pear shaped figures, so my genetics isn't favourable. DH
knows he isn't as fit as he could be, in part because he used to bike a
*lot*, but since we moved we lost that opportunity.


Actually though, a pear shape is better than an apple shape with regards to
fat storage. I asked my doctor last week if I was an apple or a pear - she
said definitely a pear, more like a triangle these days

Jenn


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Old August 26th, 2004, 02:41 PM
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:44:01 -0500, JMA wrote:

Actually though, a pear shape is better than an apple shape with regards to
fat storage. I asked my doctor last week if I was an apple or a pear - she
said definitely a pear, more like a triangle these days


Hehe, so at least there's something good about my figure. I've heard
similar things, like apple shaped people being more prone to fat around
the vital organs and therefore less healthy.

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Old August 26th, 2004, 02:41 PM
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:44:01 -0500, JMA wrote:

Actually though, a pear shape is better than an apple shape with regards to
fat storage. I asked my doctor last week if I was an apple or a pear - she
said definitely a pear, more like a triangle these days


Hehe, so at least there's something good about my figure. I've heard
similar things, like apple shaped people being more prone to fat around
the vital organs and therefore less healthy.

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Old August 26th, 2004, 05:40 PM
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"Boemsi" wrote in message
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Hehe, so at least there's something good about my figure. I've heard
similar things, like apple shaped people being more prone to fat around
the vital organs and therefore less healthy.


Exactly. The only health problem associated with pear shape is at the joint
level. Diabete, cardio-vascular problems and the like come with abdominal
fat. It's not really a matter of shape actually, but of having fat around
the belly or not. If you are very pear or triangle fat, you usually end up
with some unhealthy fat around the belly too... But that mostly happens when
you're massively obese, while guys get that right from the overweight level.
It's just that women are naturally designed to carry more fat on their
bodies (hence higher average body fat values), so nature put it in the
places where it was not harmfull.


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Old August 26th, 2004, 05:40 PM
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"Boemsi" wrote in message
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Hehe, so at least there's something good about my figure. I've heard
similar things, like apple shaped people being more prone to fat around
the vital organs and therefore less healthy.


Exactly. The only health problem associated with pear shape is at the joint
level. Diabete, cardio-vascular problems and the like come with abdominal
fat. It's not really a matter of shape actually, but of having fat around
the belly or not. If you are very pear or triangle fat, you usually end up
with some unhealthy fat around the belly too... But that mostly happens when
you're massively obese, while guys get that right from the overweight level.
It's just that women are naturally designed to carry more fat on their
bodies (hence higher average body fat values), so nature put it in the
places where it was not harmfull.


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Old August 26th, 2004, 08:27 PM
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:40:39 +0200, Lictor wrote:

It's just that women are naturally designed to carry more fat on their
bodies (hence higher average body fat values), so nature put it in the
places where it was not harmfull.


Logical: women need the fat if they want to reproduce. It's been shown
that both too high and too low body fat percentages can interfere with
ovulation. Apparently the fat stores essential hormones, which is probably
why women after menopauze change their fat storage, as Ig remarked. Funny
how nature has it all figured out...

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Old August 26th, 2004, 08:27 PM
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:40:39 +0200, Lictor wrote:

It's just that women are naturally designed to carry more fat on their
bodies (hence higher average body fat values), so nature put it in the
places where it was not harmfull.


Logical: women need the fat if they want to reproduce. It's been shown
that both too high and too low body fat percentages can interfere with
ovulation. Apparently the fat stores essential hormones, which is probably
why women after menopauze change their fat storage, as Ig remarked. Funny
how nature has it all figured out...

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Old August 27th, 2004, 03:58 AM
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On 26 Aug 2004 14:08:35 GMT, Ignoramus24885
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In article , Boemsi wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:44:01 -0500, JMA wrote:

Actually though, a pear shape is better than an apple shape with regards to
fat storage. I asked my doctor last week if I was an apple or a pear - she
said definitely a pear, more like a triangle these days


Hehe, so at least there's something good about my figure. I've heard
similar things, like apple shaped people being more prone to fat around
the vital organs and therefore less healthy.


According to Steven N. Austad, Why We Age: What Science Is Discovering
about the Body's Journey Through Life, females tend to have a pear
shape prior to menopause, wfter which fat migrates and they become
more of an apple shape.


I've heard this too, and it has some similarity to my own experience.
I never had a pear shape, but prior to menopause I had more of an
hourglass shape, with a quite small waistline relative to my hips and
bust. When I put on weight then I kept roughly the same proportions.
Post-menopause I added quite a bit more weight, and that was much more
around the middle. Now I'm back to weighing what I did in college,
and I have a slightly more average figure than I did then in terms of
weight distribution -- a little more in the middle and a little less
in the hips and bust than I did then. But the difference isn't all
that great. (And my figure is more like the way clothing is sized,
which is not a bad thing :-) .) What was most different for me after
menopause seemed to be where I carried excess weight when I had it.

Chris
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Old August 27th, 2004, 03:58 AM
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On 26 Aug 2004 14:08:35 GMT, Ignoramus24885
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In article , Boemsi wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:44:01 -0500, JMA wrote:

Actually though, a pear shape is better than an apple shape with regards to
fat storage. I asked my doctor last week if I was an apple or a pear - she
said definitely a pear, more like a triangle these days


Hehe, so at least there's something good about my figure. I've heard
similar things, like apple shaped people being more prone to fat around
the vital organs and therefore less healthy.


According to Steven N. Austad, Why We Age: What Science Is Discovering
about the Body's Journey Through Life, females tend to have a pear
shape prior to menopause, wfter which fat migrates and they become
more of an apple shape.


I've heard this too, and it has some similarity to my own experience.
I never had a pear shape, but prior to menopause I had more of an
hourglass shape, with a quite small waistline relative to my hips and
bust. When I put on weight then I kept roughly the same proportions.
Post-menopause I added quite a bit more weight, and that was much more
around the middle. Now I'm back to weighing what I did in college,
and I have a slightly more average figure than I did then in terms of
weight distribution -- a little more in the middle and a little less
in the hips and bust than I did then. But the difference isn't all
that great. (And my figure is more like the way clothing is sized,
which is not a bad thing :-) .) What was most different for me after
menopause seemed to be where I carried excess weight when I had it.

Chris
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Old August 27th, 2004, 04:18 AM
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On 27 Aug 2004 03:06:53 GMT, Ignoramus24885
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Very few women of your age can boast being at the same weight as they
were in college! This is an incredible accomplishment...


Well, thanks :-). I'm really about exactly what I was then. I was in
the low 140s all through college. I started going up in grad school,
and was never that low again until now.

Chris
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