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Carmen wrote:
:: Hi,
:: On 22-Sep-2003, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
::
::::: Check Google for
::::: It's an eyeopener.
:::
::: Yes, Penny appears to be really into alternative medicine -- and
::: controlling BG is probably why she hangs here. It is my guess that
::: she writes
::: Priscilla personally to avoid going off-topic in this newsgroup.
::
:: You're a sweet man Roger, and you want to extend the benefit of the
:: doubt, but I don't think you've read nearly enough. :-)

Well, that's true. Sorting though it all is too much. If you got some good
ones filed away, I'd love to hear.

::
::: Of course, Google reveals that Penny and Priscilla participate in
::: threads over in alt.religion.christian.episcopal too. So I don't
::: understand
::: why Priscilla is choosing to bring this to the "light" over here.
::
:: Check the time frame involved. The picture is there, but it takes
:: some reading to bring it into focus.

Right -- over a year ago as you noted in the other post. I saw that too, but
my guess is that Penny remembers Priscilla for one reason or another (who
knows if the exchanged off ng back then). Also, from what I saw, the Penny
character didn't seem all that extreme, as these regilious types go. She
obviously had some people over there inflamed, however. I think Priscilla
labeled "him" a troll, even. You take some religious fanaticism and some
name calling and mix them together, and this is what you get.

Imo, religion is a topic better avoided if you don't wish to invite hassles.

Carmen wrote:
:: Hi,
:: On 22-Sep-2003, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
:: SNIP
::: Also, having such a tagline simply
::: invites this kind of attention.
::
:: You and Steve have both made statements to this effect. I don't see
:: it - what am I missing? To my eye it just says that a certain church
:: welcomes all comers. What do you see in it that might provoke
:: someone?

A short answer is that there are people out there with very strong views
about certain churches. I've seen it over and over here.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:47:59 -0400, Steve wrote:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:42:35 -0400, Bob M wrote
(in message ):

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:35:03 GMT, Lorelei
wrote:

Roger Zoul wrote:
Also, having such a tagline
simply invites this kind of attention.


my thoughts exactly

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Not from me -- I had no idea that the tagline meant anything. So,
"Also, having such a tagline
simply invites this kind of attention" should be changed to "Also,
having such a tagline
simply invites this kind of attention for people who know something
about this religion."



I thought you killfiled this thread.

Steve



I did, but my darn program has begun to make me manually say "filter"
messages. I'm not sure why, as it gets most of the posts with "mu" anywhere
in the text. Unfortunately, it looks like a bug. So, I want to killfile
it, but my program isn't quite responding correctly for whatever reason.
See, if I manually apply the filter, it works! What good is a killfile
that you have to manually apply? Perhaps I'm going to have to research
better news programs.

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Bob M wrote:
:: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:35:03 GMT, Lorelei
:: wrote:
::
::: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Also, having such a tagline
::::: simply invites this kind of attention.
:::
:::
::: my thoughts exactly
:::
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::: Lori
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:::
:::
:::
:::
:::
:::
::
:: Not from me -- I had no idea that the tagline meant anything. So,
:: "Also, having such a tagline
:: simply invites this kind of attention" should be changed to "Also,
:: having such a tagline
:: simply invites this kind of attention for people who know something
:: about this religion."

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|| wouldn't it be nice if people would practice the safest sex possible
|| and we would have a lot less to worry about. Use protection for
|| godssake It will be those little viruses and bacterias that will
|| do us in anyway, so let's try to delay it as long as possible. (JMO)
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Woah! where did THAT come from? I was temporarily possessed

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Carmen wrote:
:: Hi Roger,
:: On 22-Sep-2003, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
::
::: I think it possible for someone to be against the practice of a
::: lifestyle (that being homosexuality) but yet not be "against" those
::: who practice
::: that lifestyle. Also, some of those that I know of don't feel
::: superior to
::: anyone, they view themselves as having a mission....
::
:: A mission to what though...save the persons from themselves? Show
:: them the error of their ways?

Basically. It can be viewed also as helping people. Just as feeding the
hungry with food, one *could* attempt to feed the spirit, etc.

:: That sort of position inherently
:: involves the assumption that the person on the mission's views are
:: right, and that the others are wrong.

Right. Many religions work that way, as I'm sure you know. Politics, too.

:: By its very nature it
:: involves an assumption of superiority of some sort.

I would not call it superiority per se, but more the notion that they have
something that everyone else really needs, but they just don't know it. I
liken it to seeing a blind person about to walk into traffic and trying to
stop them before all hope is lost....I don't think it stems from a notion
that I'm better than you, so you had better listen to me....

:: They don't have
:: to hate the people they think are wrong to be bigoted. The bigotry
:: lies in the assumption of superiority in the first place.

Well, anytime someone thinks they are right and others are wrong, you'll get
to this situation.

However, in this particular case, I think both parties line up on similiar
sides, with the exception of homosexuality.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:59:23 -0700, "Cheri"
-nogarbage wrote:


Well then, I guess you'd have to monitor the sexual activities and
practices of
everyone, then.

Susan

You said:
"I can't think of any reason for any human being to be the least bit
concerned
about what another does in his/her intimate relationships with other
consenting
adults."

Mu said: AIDS

I agree with him on that since I'm a human being and I would be very
concerned about what another person had done in their relationships if I
was sleeping with them whether or not they were consenting adults.

Not only that but in the giving and transfusion of blood and the cost
to taxpayers and medical insurance providers. Who you (plural) screw
has a direct influence on our lives.

I
think that qualifies as the "any reason" you couldn't think of. I could
be wrong. :-)

Not this time.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:21:54 GMT, Priscilla Ballou
wrote:

I am posting the following abusive and offensive personal email because
I will not maintain silence when I am abused or insulted.

Priscilla

Put the guy in your killfile and leave the rest of us alone. who
needs this nonsense???

In article ,
"Carmen " wrote:

I was aware of the controversy. I'm sad to see people ascribing nasty
motives to a simple (rather sweet, I thought) tagline though, based on
no real evidence, just suspicion.

Carmen, to give a little more background, the US is peppered with
rectangular signs with the symbol of the Episcopal Church on it and the
saying, "The Episcopal Church Welcomes You!" and directions to the local
Episcopal Church.

Following the consent to the election of Gene Robinson as Bishop,
Episcopalians have been the object of scorn and derision by people --
often not Episcopalians -- who call us names, verbally spit on us, and
generally abuse us for doing what we think is right with our church. In
an effort to point out the positive, I adopted as my sig an expansion on
the Episcopal Church's motto, pointing out that we are, indeed, a "big
tent" and welcome everyone. Apparently not everyone wants to be
welcomed.

Priscilla
--
The Episcopal Church welcomes you... and you... and you....

Priscilla Ballou wrote:

Following the consent to the election of Gene Robinson as Bishop,
Episcopalians have been the object of scorn and derision by people

Well, that's wrong.