Wesley clark NORWAY?

On 19 Sep 2003 17:18:19 -0700, (TdN) wrote:

It's presumptuous to advocate for a particular candidate when you live
in Norway and have for at least the last 8 years.

It's ridiculous for him to post about politics on asdl-c in any case,
but I think it's actually perfectly reasonable for him to "advocate
for" any candidate if he is a US citizen voting by absentee ballot.
In an appropriate setting, of course, which this isn't.

You helped by commenting?

Carmen wrote:
The rest of the world wasn't brought up. So while it *might* be
presumptuous of me to say the rest of the world need not be concerned
about our Presidential elections it's a red herring - I said no such
thing

Carmen, you said: "It's presumptuous to advocate for a particular
candidate when you live in Norway and have for at least the last 8
years. You won't be obliged to live in the society that person and
his/her party help mold."

What did you mean if not that people who don't live in the US don't have
to live in a society molded by the US? In fact, the US is the only world
power now. Whatever the US does affects everybody, so everybody is
interested in who gets elected as President of the US. Beyond that, I am
a citizen of the US, and as a citizen of the US, I have the right to
vote in US elections and campaign for the candidates of my choice. This
applies to US citizens wherever they live. There is nothing presumptuous
about it.

You don't know what the *present* society is. You haven't lived here.
How can you mold the American society of the future while being
ignorant of the present society?

By voting for the candidate I want to lead the country and, hopefully,
begin to lead the world. I know what the present society is in the US,
and I know what the present society is in Norway and in Australia. I
also know a lot about the rest of the world. Our current President, who
is charged with forming foreign policy, appears not to know much about
the *present* society in the rest of the world. Whether he understand
the present society in America is suspect.

Besides that, I am a citizen of the United States, so I get to
participate in its political process wherever I am in the world. I
encourage you to do the same.

I always have since I was of age to do so. It's unfortunate that you're
allowed the same privilege sans any of the responsibility.

You are mistaken. What responsibilities are you saying I don't share? I
served in the US military. Did you? I file my income tax form and pay my
share of taxes every year. I have to pay in two countries. Do you?

martin

--
Wesley Clark for President
www.AmericansForClark.com

Martin Smith

Hi Martin,
It doesn't look as if you and I are going to get anywhere with this
issue. We're both interpreting even the basic premises so differently
that we may as well be speaking different languages. Could be for any
number of reasons - age difference, upbringing, gender even - but
there's no sense to beating our heads against a wall while we talk past
each other.

I hope your husband makes it home soon.

Thank you. He's been gone since February, and we've been told he might
come back as early as next February.

Take care,
Carmen

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:21:51 GMT, "Carmen "
wrote:

I've never been in uniform myself, but only a blind fool
would say being a successful military spouse doesn't include supporting
the mission.

Got that right.

The responsibilities you do not share, Martin, are the ones that will come from
the choice of President. If the next one decides that we all have to
submit DNA samples and retinal scans you won't have to do it sitting
over in Norway.

The present one has that already set in motion.