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At your height, 28-30 points should be no problem for maintenance.
I also refuse to have my suggested weight be dictated by some super-model logic or what society says it should be. I know where I feel good, that's what is important. I don't think I am struggling where I am at now, since no matter what I do it appears I am staying here. G I don't deny myself what I want, but I no longer allow those indescretions on a constant daily basis. I do make myself thing though ... do I REALLY want that particular item, or am I thinking about it for some other reason (pressure from dd, boredom, etc.). Most of the time it is one of the latter and I can move past it. I have accepted that I am no longer 20 years old, I don't have a problem with it. I know I will never have the same figure I did then. Age and childbirth have taken care of that for me. G Know what? I am perfectly fine with that! Hub was watching tv the other nite, some goofy commercial came on saying something about the weight the person was at marriage. He asked me if I have stayed the same weight after 21 years, I told him close enough. G He just laughed, swears even before ww I looked the same to him as the day we got married. So .... the only person I really did this weightloss journey for WAS me! I do think this will be something that we all will constantly have to work at - regardless as to how much over our goal we are willing to sit. If not, we wouldn't have ended up where we were when starting ww. Old habits die hard, as the saying goes. While I do accept what I am, I am also willing to work every darned day of the rest of my life to keep the weight from going back on. And I will also accept the fact that this will be work. If I don't work, I know the outcome. But ... work and struggle are two different things. I agree, I don't want to have to struggle. I have no idea what my heart rate is while exercising, only know that it has dropped to about 65 when I'm sitting. I go by perception ... how I'm breathing, how I'm sweating, if I can talk, etc. Without monitors it's a guessing game. I do have a monitor on the treadmill but I don't use it. Most all of these types are incredibly inaccurate, so I refuse to give myself that false sense of security. G Then again, I may give it a try someday just for grins. LOL Joyce On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:37:48 GMT, "Carol in NC" wrote: Hi Joyce. Yes, I'm almost 5'9" Even averaging 41 points a day, I'm losing well now, so I don't see 28-30 being a problem later. (although I'd rather eat 40 points....LOL) However, I look really good even at 200 pounds because of my height. (about a size 12) I took the goal WW gave me, but I'm going to go by how I look and feel, what size clothes I wear, and how easy it is to keep losing. I won't starve to maintain a lower weight. If I have to weigh 180 to be able to eat comfortably, then that'll be what I do. I'd rather maintain 20 pounds above WW goal and not struggle, (which might mean eventual gains for me because of discouragement) than be smaller and have to work all the time at it. My body is what it is. I wish I'd accepted that when I was younger and I wouldn't be on this journey now. I weighed about 150 in college, and felt really fat because my (shorter) friends weighed 130 or so. I'm finding the same thing with exercise as you do. Each day gets a little easier. After two miles, this morning, I felt just comfortable, not hurting or tired at all. (my heart rate is still about 130, but I seem to be able to handle that more easily now.) Carol |
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Hi Joyce,
I love your attitude. I expect that I should be able to drop the points fairly easily, for a while at least. Right now, I add nuts and croutons to my salad. I like it that way, but I can omit them some days, and not feel it too much. Also, I have two fruits for breakfast...going without one won't be too bad. I have a pria bar and a yoghurt tub in mid afternoon. I can manage on just one. Just cutting those things out will take away about 4.5 points a day. The rest of it will be having peas/carrots/lima beans less and green beans more, etc. I've tried to be really careful about making sure I use the Flex points on good healthy things. If I had been using them on junky snacks, it would be harder to cut them out, I think, My sister knows a woman who has kept her WW loss off for 20 years. She asked her how she does it. Her answer? "I journal every day." I've made a personal committment that I'm going to do that, even if it means staying online with WW and paying the $4 a week...worth it if it keeps me honest. I've eaten for years as a medication. I am starting to really look at those issues too...just as you have. This newsgroup is also very good for support. (except for the cross post wars that creep in from time to time) grin... Nice to share with you. Carol -- .................................................. ........... 318/254.6/169 63.4 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process. .................................................. ............. "Joyce" wrote in message news At your height, 28-30 points should be no problem for maintenance. I also refuse to have my suggested weight be dictated by some super-model logic or what society says it should be. I know where I feel good, that's what is important. I don't think I am struggling where I am at now, since no matter what I do it appears I am staying here. G I don't deny myself what I want, but I no longer allow those indescretions on a constant daily basis. I do make myself thing though ... do I REALLY want that particular item, or am I thinking about it for some other reason (pressure from dd, boredom, etc.). Most of the time it is one of the latter and I can move past it. I have accepted that I am no longer 20 years old, I don't have a problem with it. I know I will never have the same figure I did then. Age and childbirth have taken care of that for me. G Know what? I am perfectly fine with that! Hub was watching tv the other nite, some goofy commercial came on saying something about the weight the person was at marriage. He asked me if I have stayed the same weight after 21 years, I told him close enough. G He just laughed, swears even before ww I looked the same to him as the day we got married. So .... the only person I really did this weightloss journey for WAS me! I do think this will be something that we all will constantly have to work at - regardless as to how much over our goal we are willing to sit. If not, we wouldn't have ended up where we were when starting ww. Old habits die hard, as the saying goes. While I do accept what I am, I am also willing to work every darned day of the rest of my life to keep the weight from going back on. And I will also accept the fact that this will be work. If I don't work, I know the outcome. But ... work and struggle are two different things. I agree, I don't want to have to struggle. I have no idea what my heart rate is while exercising, only know that it has dropped to about 65 when I'm sitting. I go by perception ... how I'm breathing, how I'm sweating, if I can talk, etc. Without monitors it's a guessing game. I do have a monitor on the treadmill but I don't use it. Most all of these types are incredibly inaccurate, so I refuse to give myself that false sense of security. G Then again, I may give it a try someday just for grins. LOL Joyce On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:37:48 GMT, "Carol in NC" wrote: Hi Joyce. Yes, I'm almost 5'9" Even averaging 41 points a day, I'm losing well now, so I don't see 28-30 being a problem later. (although I'd rather eat 40 points....LOL) However, I look really good even at 200 pounds because of my height. (about a size 12) I took the goal WW gave me, but I'm going to go by how I look and feel, what size clothes I wear, and how easy it is to keep losing. I won't starve to maintain a lower weight. If I have to weigh 180 to be able to eat comfortably, then that'll be what I do. I'd rather maintain 20 pounds above WW goal and not struggle, (which might mean eventual gains for me because of discouragement) than be smaller and have to work all the time at it. My body is what it is. I wish I'd accepted that when I was younger and I wouldn't be on this journey now. I weighed about 150 in college, and felt really fat because my (shorter) friends weighed 130 or so. I'm finding the same thing with exercise as you do. Each day gets a little easier. After two miles, this morning, I felt just comfortable, not hurting or tired at all. (my heart rate is still about 130, but I seem to be able to handle that more easily now.) Carol |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:39:51 GMT, "Carol in NC"
wrote: Hi everyone, I had the best weigh in I've had in a really long time. I lost 2.6 pounds. Way to go Carol. That's a great loss :-) -- Erin in NZ 125/90.5/75 kgs 275.3/199.3/165 lbs NYNY goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos) "It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves" Sir Edmund Hilary |
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Thanks to all those who offered congrats.
Carol -- .................................................. ........... 318/254.6/169 63.4 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process. .................................................. ............. "Erin Marsh" wrote in message . co.nz... On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:39:51 GMT, "Carol in NC" wrote: Hi everyone, I had the best weigh in I've had in a really long time. I lost 2.6 pounds. Way to go Carol. That's a great loss :-) -- Erin in NZ 125/90.5/75 kgs 275.3/199.3/165 lbs NYNY goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos) "It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves" Sir Edmund Hilary |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:03:55 GMT, "Carol in NC" wrote:
Hi Joyce, I love your attitude. Thanks Carol. I guess in a nutshell I'm just a realist. I have nothing to prove to anyone, learned many years ago that I only have to please myself. Hard lesson to learn though (cost a few bucks too G). I expect that I should be able to drop the points fairly easily, for a while at least. Right now, I add nuts and croutons to my salad. I like it that way, but I can omit them some days, and not feel it too much. Also, I have two fruits for breakfast...going without one won't be too bad. I have a pria bar and a yoghurt tub in mid afternoon. I can manage on just one. Just cutting those things out will take away about 4.5 points a day. The rest of it will be having peas/carrots/lima beans less and green beans more, etc. I've tried to be really careful about making sure I use the Flex points on good healthy things. If I had been using them on junky snacks, it would be harder to cut them out, I think, It sounds like you are working the program absolutely perfectly! Making those necessary changes in healthy ways, but also ways that you could drop points when necessary without really missing anything horribly. I also think (right or wrong) that if I do have to have something extra - that extra piece of fruit is a darned good choice, even if it takes me over points. Fruit isn't what caused my original problem. G Occassionally my points are used on junky stuff. I will never say I HAD to have something - it took me awhile to learn the difference between wants and needs. Also that it was ok to want something, as long as I was able to acknowledge it properly. It seems that when I convince myself I *need* something, then the pattern continues uncontrollably. If I only *want* it, I can give myself permission to have it occassionally ... and move past it. I'm learning how my mind works for me ... as well as against me. Wierd, huh? My sister knows a woman who has kept her WW loss off for 20 years. She asked her how she does it. Her answer? "I journal every day." I've made a personal committment that I'm going to do that, even if it means staying online with WW and paying the $4 a week...worth it if it keeps me honest. 20 years? Wow, I hope I can be as successful as your sisters friend. That is a wonderful accomplishment! I do think that's why I still continue with the ww online system. It has worked for me, and if it continues to keep me on the right path then the $4/week is definitely worth it. I still complain about the journal though, and the fact that we get no lifetimer benefits. G I've eaten for years as a medication. I am starting to really look at those issues too...just as you have. It is hard to face those problems and issues, they have been such major influences in our lives for so long. There is also a tremendous amount of freedom when they are acknowledged and conquered (somewhat). With freedom comes success ... and better feelings about ourselves. I know my brothers aren't thrilled with the *new* me, who now speaks up for herself and doesn't allow anyone to walk all over her. But they are also learning to deal with it. What they are now admitting is that I really am only back to the personality that they grew up with - not the adult they came to know and become comfortable with. Life lessons I guess. This newsgroup is also very good for support. (except for the cross post wars that creep in from time to time) grin... Ahhhhhhhhh, I don't think I ever could have come this far without the help and support from all the fantastic people here. It's so much different when you know that everyone really DOES understand what we are going through. We aren't alone, we aren't only hearing *words*. This group has walked with us, has gone through the same struggles we have, and continue to do so every day of their lives. I think it makes a huge difference. Nice to share with you. And with you! Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 132.2 Lifetime: 4/4/03 Carol -- ................................................. ........... 318/254.6/169 63.4 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process. ................................................. ............. "Joyce" wrote in message news At your height, 28-30 points should be no problem for maintenance. I also refuse to have my suggested weight be dictated by some super-model logic or what society says it should be. I know where I feel good, that's what is important. I don't think I am struggling where I am at now, since no matter what I do it appears I am staying here. G I don't deny myself what I want, but I no longer allow those indescretions on a constant daily basis. I do make myself thing though ... do I REALLY want that particular item, or am I thinking about it for some other reason (pressure from dd, boredom, etc.). Most of the time it is one of the latter and I can move past it. I have accepted that I am no longer 20 years old, I don't have a problem with it. I know I will never have the same figure I did then. Age and childbirth have taken care of that for me. G Know what? I am perfectly fine with that! Hub was watching tv the other nite, some goofy commercial came on saying something about the weight the person was at marriage. He asked me if I have stayed the same weight after 21 years, I told him close enough. G He just laughed, swears even before ww I looked the same to him as the day we got married. So .... the only person I really did this weightloss journey for WAS me! I do think this will be something that we all will constantly have to work at - regardless as to how much over our goal we are willing to sit. If not, we wouldn't have ended up where we were when starting ww. Old habits die hard, as the saying goes. While I do accept what I am, I am also willing to work every darned day of the rest of my life to keep the weight from going back on. And I will also accept the fact that this will be work. If I don't work, I know the outcome. But ... work and struggle are two different things. I agree, I don't want to have to struggle. I have no idea what my heart rate is while exercising, only know that it has dropped to about 65 when I'm sitting. I go by perception ... how I'm breathing, how I'm sweating, if I can talk, etc. Without monitors it's a guessing game. I do have a monitor on the treadmill but I don't use it. Most all of these types are incredibly inaccurate, so I refuse to give myself that false sense of security. G Then again, I may give it a try someday just for grins. LOL Joyce |
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Thanks Carol. I guess in a nutshell I'm just a realist. I have nothing
to prove to anyone, learned many years ago that I only have to please myself. Hard lesson to learn though (cost a few bucks too G). Haven't we all spent money on things that are supposed to "cure" us? I've come to the same place. Actually, I used to try to take care of everyone around me. Now, I'm taking care of myself and that feels good. It sounds like you are working the program absolutely perfectly! Making those necessary changes in healthy ways, but also ways that you could drop points when necessary without really missing anything horribly. I also think (right or wrong) that if I do have to have something extra - that extra piece of fruit is a darned good choice, even if it takes me over points. Fruit isn't what caused my original problem. G Occassionally my points are used on junky stuff. I will never say I HAD to have something - it took me awhile to learn the difference between wants and needs. Also that it was ok to want something, as long as I was able to acknowledge it properly. It seems that when I convince myself I *need* something, then the pattern continues uncontrollably. If I only *want* it, I can give myself permission to have it occassionally ... and move past it. I'm learning how my mind works for me ... as well as against me. Wierd, huh? One thing that is amazing to me is how little I want to eat the junky foods now. It is as though giving myself permission to have them and fit them into the plan made them unnecessary. Before, I always denied myself any treats when trying to lose weight. Our family goes out to eat every Friday, and we order one luscious (i.e.as much chocolate as possible) dessert. LOL We get three spoons, and I have a couple of bites and feel satisfied and proud of myself at the same time. It's become a tradition that we all love. (We look for the dessert menu first and fight over which "one" dessert to end with. grin 20 years? Wow, I hope I can be as successful as your sisters friend. That is a wonderful accomplishment! I do think that's why I still continue with the ww online system. It has worked for me, and if it continues to keep me on the right path then the $4/week is definitely worth it. I still complain about the journal though, and the fact that we get no lifetimer benefits. G I agree on the $4 a week. I've decided that I'm committed to doing that forever if that's what it takes. I may join a meeting when I'm 10 pounds from goal to be able to get lifemtimer benefits. I haven't decided yet. I don't seem to need the motivation of a group this time around. Something has clicked with me and I'm really doing this for me (and only me) and for the right reasons. Ahhhhhhhhh, I don't think I ever could have come this far without the help and support from all the fantastic people here. It's so much different when you know that everyone really DOES understand what we are going through. We aren't alone, we aren't only hearing *words*. This group has walked with us, has gone through the same struggles we have, and continue to do so every day of their lives. I think it makes a huge difference. That is true. My husband is very supportive, but he gets tired of the WW talk after a while. A person who is also following the program will gladly listen to you talk about points, ad infinitum, if that's what you need for support. Best of luck in your continued success.... Carol -- .................................................. ........... 318/250/169 68 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process. Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 132.2 Lifetime: 4/4/03 Carol -- ................................................. ........... 318/254.6/169 63.4 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process. ................................................. ............. "Joyce" wrote in message news At your height, 28-30 points should be no problem for maintenance. I also refuse to have my suggested weight be dictated by some super-model logic or what society says it should be. I know where I feel good, that's what is important. I don't think I am struggling where I am at now, since no matter what I do it appears I am staying here. G I don't deny myself what I want, but I no longer allow those indescretions on a constant daily basis. I do make myself thing though ... do I REALLY want that particular item, or am I thinking about it for some other reason (pressure from dd, boredom, etc.). Most of the time it is one of the latter and I can move past it. I have accepted that I am no longer 20 years old, I don't have a problem with it. I know I will never have the same figure I did then. Age and childbirth have taken care of that for me. G Know what? I am perfectly fine with that! Hub was watching tv the other nite, some goofy commercial came on saying something about the weight the person was at marriage. He asked me if I have stayed the same weight after 21 years, I told him close enough. G He just laughed, swears even before ww I looked the same to him as the day we got married. So .... the only person I really did this weightloss journey for WAS me! I do think this will be something that we all will constantly have to work at - regardless as to how much over our goal we are willing to sit. If not, we wouldn't have ended up where we were when starting ww. Old habits die hard, as the saying goes. While I do accept what I am, I am also willing to work every darned day of the rest of my life to keep the weight from going back on. And I will also accept the fact that this will be work. If I don't work, I know the outcome. But ... work and struggle are two different things. I agree, I don't want to have to struggle. I have no idea what my heart rate is while exercising, only know that it has dropped to about 65 when I'm sitting. I go by perception ... how I'm breathing, how I'm sweating, if I can talk, etc. Without monitors it's a guessing game. I do have a monitor on the treadmill but I don't use it. Most all of these types are incredibly inaccurate, so I refuse to give myself that false sense of security. G Then again, I may give it a try someday just for grins. LOL Joyce |
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