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Saturated fat prevents coronary artery disease? An American paradox
It is an article of faith that saturated fat raises LDL cholesterol and
accelerates coronary artery disease, whereas unsaturated fatty acids have the opposite effect (1, 2). One of the earliest and most convincing studies of the better efficacy of unsaturated than of saturated fat in reducing cholesterol and heart disease is the Finnish Mental Hospital Study conducted in the 12 y between 1959 and 1971. In this study, the usual high-saturated-fat institutional diet was compared with an equally high-fat diet in which the saturated fat in dairy products was replaced with soybean oil and soft margarine and polyunsaturated fats were used in cooking. Each diet was provided for 6 y and then the alternate diet was provided for the next 6 y (3). After a comparison of the effects of the 2 diets in both men and women, the incidence of coronary artery disease was lower by 50% and 65% after the consumption of polyunsaturated fat in the 2 hospitals. In this issue of the Journal, Mozaffarian et al (4) report the opposite association. They found that a higher saturated fat intake is associated with less progression of coronary artery disease according to quantitative angiography. How can this paradox be explained? In food-frequency questionnaires, saturated fat intake is more precisely estimated than is total fat. If saturated fat is more precisely estimated, it will associate more strongly in statistical analyses with the outcome variable, even though other variables-such as total fat or carbohydrate-could be more relevant physiologically. We believe that these possibilities deserve a closer look. Unlike the diet used in the Finnish Mental Hospital Study, the diet described by Mozaffarian et al was low in fat, averaging 25% of energy. The study subjects were women with coronary artery disease: most were hypertensive, many had diabetes (19-31%), their body mass index (kg/m2) ranged from 29 to 30, and their lipid profile indicated combined hyperlipidemia (triacylglycerol concentration: 200 mg/dL; HDL-cholesterol concentration: 40-50 mg/dL; above-average LDL concentration: 135-141 mg/dL); these characteristics are consistent with the metabolic syndrome. In addition, two-thirds of these women were taking sex hormones. The importance of each of these points is addressed below. What are the effects of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet in comparison with those of a higher-fat, lower-carbohydrate diet? The response differs by the 2 main types of hyperlipidemia: simple hypercholesterolemia and combined hyperlipidemia. In our studies of simple hypercholesterolemia in men, a fat intake 25% of energy and a carbohydrate intake 60% of energy was associated with a sustained increase in triacylglycerol of 40%, a decrease in HDL cholesterol of 3.5%, and no further decrease in LDL in comparison with higher fat intakes (5). In contrast, a low-fat diet in persons with combined hyperlipidemia caused no worsening of triacylglycerol or HDL, but intakes of fat 40% of energy and of carbohydrate 45% of energy for 2 y were associated with a lower triacylglycerol concentration at a stable weight (6). In the subjects of Mozaffarian et al, a greater saturated fat intake paralleled a total fat intake, which ranged from 18% to 32% of energy in the first to fourth quartiles. Modest favorable trends in triacylglycerol and HDL-cholesterol concentrations were observed with higher fat intakes. Triacylglycerol and HDL-cholesterol concentrations are stronger predictors of coronary artery disease in women, whereas the LDL-cholesterol concentration is a stronger predictor in men (7). Because VLDL triacylglycerol secretion and removal rates in healthy women are double those of men (8), conditions impairing lipoprotein removal would be expected to exaggerate the hyperlipidemic response in women as compared with that in men (9). This sex difference is seen with the development of diabetes. The increment in lipids is greater in women than in men and is associated with a greater increment in coronary artery disease risk in women than in men (9). Similarly, the development of insulin resistance and obesity is associated with a greater lipoprotein increment in women than in men (10). The exaggerated decreases in HDL- and HDL2-cholesterol concentrations observed with the consumption of a low-fat Step II diet in women but not in men appear to be another facet of this effect (11). The failure of female sex hormones to prevent coronary artery disease has been a great disappointment (9). This effect might also be due to an estrogen-induced increase in lipoprotein entry against a fixed or impaired rate of lipoprotein removal, as might be expected in women with the metabolic syndrome and coronary artery disease. Would saturated fat still be bad for anyone? Not necessarily. The effect of saturated fat and cholesterol ingestion in the form of 4 eggs/d for 1 mo in obese, insulin-resistant subjects is 33% of that seen in lean, insulin-sensitive subjects, likely because of diminished cholesterol absorption (12). Thus, the classic effects of saturated fat as compared with those of unsaturated fat seen in the Finnish Mental Hospital Study are likely blunted in the subjects of Mozaffarian et al, whereas the effects of low fat and high carbohydrate intakes on triacylglycerol and HDL-cholesterol concentrations appear to be exaggerated by the interactions of female sex, exogenous sex hormones, and the metabolic syndrome. A major effect on cardiovascular disease risk would be the result of hypertriglyceridemia and low HDL-cholesterol concentrations, which are attenuated by an increase in saturated fat intake itself or in total fat intake, for which saturated fat is a more statistically stable surrogate (4). In conclusion, the hypothesis-generating report of Mozaffarian et al draws attention to the different effects of diet on lipoprotein physiology and cardiovascular disease risk. These effects include the paradox that a high-fat, high-saturated fat diet is associated with diminished coronary artery disease progression in women with the metabolic syndrome, a condition that is epidemic in the United States. This paradox presents a challenge to differentiate the effects of dietary fat on lipoproteins and cardiovascular disease risk in men and women, in the different lipid disorders, and in the metabolic syndrome. http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/80/5/1102 |
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Saturated fat prevents coronary artery disease? An American paradox
This is nothing new. Read some of my posts. Search this group for
montygram. Even AHA spokesman are saying now that oxidized cholesterol is the problem, and PUFAs can oxidize cholesterol, but saturated fatty acids cannot. However, there is a big difference between lard and coconut oil, though both are called "saturated fat." Coconut oil is 92% saturated, and so is very healthy. Lard is at least 60% unsaturated, and so should be avoided (it also has no antioxidant protection). Do not cook any food with cholesterol in it while exposed to air (boiling is okay). Avoid baked goods that contain eggs, cheese, milk, etc. - this is very bad stuff. Here are a couple of many studies making this point: Oxidized LDL contains inflammatory PAF-like phospholipids. Trends Cardiovasc Med 2001 Apr-May;11(3-4):139-42 Marathe GK, Prescott SM, Zimmerman GA, McIntyre TM. Department of Pathology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. Atherosclerosis has an underlying inflammatory component. Oxidation of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) particles to modified forms promotes atherogenesis by supplying cholesterol and through the oxidative generation of agents that activate macrophages, smooth muscle and endothelial cells. A primary target of oxidizing compounds, derived from cigarette smoke, dietary sources, exuberant inflammatory cell responses and normal cellular metabolism among other sources, are the esterified polyunsaturated fatty acids in the phospholipid shell that surrounds the insoluble lipids of the lipoprotein core. One type of phospholipid oxidation product mimics the structure of the potent inflammatory mediator platelet-activating factor (PAF), and these oxidation products activate the PAF receptor found on platelets, monocytes and leukocytes. Production of such PAF mimetics is, in contrast to the physiologic generation of PAF, uncontrolled. PAF mimetics and other phospholipid oxidation products are found in atherosclerotic lesions or even in blood after exposure to cigarette smoke. Here we summarize our data describing the structure, activity and metabolism of the PAF-like lipids found in atherogenic LDL particles. Ital Heart J 2001 Dec;2(12):867-72 Low-density lipoprotein oxidation. Iuliano L, Micheletta F, Violi F. Istituto di I Clinica Medica Universita degli Studi La Sapienza Policlinico Umberto I Viale del Policlinico, 155 00161 Roma. Free radical mediated oxidation of low-density lipoproteins (LDL), which has been extensively studied in the last two decades, plays a central role in the development of the atherosclerotic plaque. Oxidation involves the lipid moiety of LDL in a chain reaction mechanism. In the initial phase, free radicals preferentially attack highly oxidizable polyunsaturated fatty acids. Subsequent recruitment of other molecules includes cholesterol and phospholipids. The process of oxidation is counteracted by antioxidants present in LDL. By-products formed during oxidation of LDL lipids, which may have biological activity, react with amino acid residues of the LDL protein backbone with the consequent modification of chemical and immunological properties responsible for cellular receptor shift. Oxidation-altered apolipoprotein B of oxidized LDL is, in fact, recognized by the macrophage scavenger receptor responsible for foam cell formation. The mechanism of LDL oxidation and the impact on atherogenesis are discussed. |
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Saturated fat prevents coronary artery disease? An American paradox
cardarch wrote:
I dont get what is happening here. What's happening is scientists finally noticed that carb levels count, so they are redoing large numbers of studies to see if fat is a problem when not combined with high carb. I thought there was much research to show that saturated fat in the diet turns to LDL cholesterol which is largely responsible for creating the inflammation in arteries that causes plaque to form that causes arteriosclerosis. All of which was studied using high carb food plans. And so they demonstrated that high-carb plus high-fat together is a problem. You could have asked either low carbers or low fatters that question and gotten the answer long ago. Now there is the Mozaffarian study of postmenopausal women with coronary disease. They respond well to a high fat diet especially high saturated fat because it creates higher HDL. Is it because these women already have compromised cardiovascular systems and are obese? A high-fat medium-protein low-carb diet is very good at improving cholesterol numbers. That's been quite consistent in around 80% of folks doing Atkins and similar low carb plans. What are we to believe? That scientists have started studying stuff other than variations on low fat and have started producing results that are already in bunches of low carb books. One thing I'd hesitate to believe - studies that conclude that low fat is unhealthy. It should only be unhealthy when plenty of junk products with "low fat" on the label that substituted extra carbs for the lower fat. Studies should show that either low fat or low carb work and are healthy, but that they work in different ways and grant different health benefits. |
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Saturated fat prevents coronary artery disease? An American paradox
"cardarch" wrote in message
ups.com... I dont get what is happening here. I thought there was much research to show that saturated fat in the diet turns to LDL cholesterol which is largely responsible for creating the inflammation in arteries that causes plaque to form that causes arteriosclerosis. It seems like the Not correct. All forms of cholesterol are actually members of the alcohol family of substances. This particular form of alcohol is not soluble in water (the basis of our blood). Cholesterol is an absolutely necessary component of every cell in our bodies. Our livers manufacture the majority of the cholesterol (and break down and dispose of the "used" stuff) in our blood stream. Yes. A little can be added by diet, but it's not like you eat a stick of butter or pork fat and chunks of "fat" end up in your arteries. Only digested fats in the form of EFA's can cross the intestinal barrier. Consequently all of the 'anti-fat' or anti-saturated fat' propaganda is a fraud at best, and tragedy at worst. Our bodies absolutely need fats. They are the only material that's absolutely essential for cellular construction and/or repair. Makes ya wonder how the fraud of "eat low-fat" lasted so long...and the permanent damage it caused...think: ADD/ADHD...while considering that your brain and nerve cells are more than 80% fat... Further; there is no such thing as "good" vs. "bad" cholesterol. That's simply a propaganda piece put out by folks that want your drug dollar. Nor is there a single study that's ever found a connection to "out of balance" cholesterol levels and heart disease. Not a one! Nor is there any study that demonstrates that your serum cholesterol levels are the cause of arteriosclerosis. That damage, seems to be caused primarily by out of control insulin levels (among other factors). The cholesterol that ends up in there was simply put there as a patch, by the body cells, to try to fix things. Every cell absolutely, positively MUST get some cholesterol each day, else it dies (or won't be created). In fact, IIRC; cholesterol is so important that every cell in your body except your brain cells can manufacture some of their own. Since cholesterol isn't soluble in blood, it needs another vehicle to get it to where it's going. It does this by getting inside of a lipoprotein globule (think: submarine). The "bad" LDL transports cholesterol from your liver to your outlying tissues. The "good" HDL transports it back from the cells that used it to the liver where it either gets reprocessed or excreted as bile. That's just the flip side of the same job. How one got to be "good" and the other "bad" is something only a PR agency could know. There is very little that varying the fat content of your diet can do to change your cholesterol levels. If you ingest less (a relatively small fraction to begin with), then your liver simply cranks up the generation mechanism and makes more. The various statin drugs can and do lower/alter cholesterol levels...but at the cost of other less desirable side-effects. The biggest thing that can effect your cholesterol levels is exercise. The next best thing, given that your liver manufactures it from it's favorite "food" or "feed-stock" (read: glucose), is reduce your intake of carbohydrates. And that is, after all, why most of us are reading here...right? 8 year study of women reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association showed that lowering fat in the diet didnt do anything for the cardiovascular health of the women although they didnt differentiate between types of fat and the women didnt stick to the low fat diet and it was all self reported. So...that study doesnt hold water. Now there is the Mozaffarian study of postmenopausal women with coronary disease. They respond well to a high fat diet especially high saturated fat because it creates higher HDL. Is it because these women already have compromised cardiovascular systems and are obese? What are we to believe? Believe that your body is doing its best to give you a long and healthy life. And for that long and healthy life, eat and enjoy plenty of fats and oils along with your veggies, fruits, and meats of all kinds; and eschew carbohydrates. Add to that some exercise, and you'll be on your way to the best outcome your personal version of a body can deliver. All the rest is "BS" at best. So, enjoy an egg fried in butter, and lard in your pie crusts instead of trans-fat laden "shortening" (the only "shortening" it does is to your life-span). I could go on...but I'm getting hungry...(:-o)! L8r all, DustyB |
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Saturated fat prevents coronary artery disease? An American paradox
Dusty Bleher wrote:
"cardarch" wrote in message ups.com... I dont get what is happening here. I thought there was much research to show that saturated fat in the diet turns to LDL cholesterol which is largely responsible for creating the inflammation in arteries that causes plaque to form that causes arteriosclerosis. It seems like the Not correct. All forms of cholesterol are actually members of the alcohol family of substances. This particular form of alcohol is not soluble in water (the basis of our blood). Cholesterol is an absolutely necessary component of every cell in our bodies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholesterol Actually, cholesterol (the 'simple chemical') is technically an alcohol because of an OH group, it is also technically a steroid from the ring structure part of the molecule, and it has a fatty hydrocarbon or lipid "tail". It can be said to be an alcohol and a steroid (ie: a sterol) and a fatty substance(lipid). No extra charge for the multiple chemical traits. Our livers manufacture the majority of the cholesterol (and break down and dispose of the "used" stuff) in our blood stream. Yes. A little can be added by diet, but it's not like you eat a stick of butter or pork fat and chunks of "fat" end up in your arteries. Only digested fats in the form of EFA's can cross the intestinal barrier. Consequently all of the 'anti-fat' or anti-saturated fat' propaganda is a fraud at best, and tragedy at worst. Our bodies absolutely need fats. They are the only material that's absolutely essential for cellular construction and/or repair. Makes ya wonder how the fraud of "eat low-fat" lasted so long...and the permanent damage it caused...think: ADD/ADHD...while considering that your brain and nerve cells are more than 80% fat... Further; there is no such thing as "good" vs. "bad" cholesterol. That's simply a propaganda piece put out by folks that want your drug dollar. Nor is there a single study that's ever found a connection to "out of balance" cholesterol levels and heart disease. Not a one! Nor is there any study that demonstrates that your serum cholesterol levels are the cause of arteriosclerosis. That damage, seems to be caused primarily by out of control insulin levels (among other factors). The cholesterol that ends up in there was simply put there as a patch, by the body cells, to try to fix things. Every cell absolutely, positively MUST get some cholesterol each day, else it dies (or won't be created). In fact, IIRC; cholesterol is so important that every cell in your body except your brain cells can manufacture some of their own. Since cholesterol isn't soluble in blood, it needs another vehicle to get it to where it's going. It does this by getting inside of a lipoprotein globule (think: submarine). The "bad" LDL transports cholesterol from your liver to your outlying tissues. The "good" HDL transports it back from the cells that used it to the liver where it either gets reprocessed or excreted as bile. That's just the flip side of the same job. How one got to be "good" and the other "bad" is something only a PR agency could know. There is very little that varying the fat content of your diet can do to change your cholesterol levels. If you ingest less (a relatively small fraction to begin with), then your liver simply cranks up the generation mechanism and makes more. The various statin drugs can and do lower/alter cholesterol levels...but at the cost of other less desirable side-effects. The biggest thing that can effect your cholesterol levels is exercise. The next best thing, given that your liver manufactures it from it's favorite "food" or "feed-stock" (read: glucose), is reduce your intake of carbohydrates. And that is, after all, why most of us are reading here...right? 8 year study of women reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association showed that lowering fat in the diet didnt do anything for the cardiovascular health of the women although they didnt differentiate between types of fat and the women didnt stick to the low fat diet and it was all self reported. So...that study doesnt hold water. Now there is the Mozaffarian study of postmenopausal women with coronary disease. They respond well to a high fat diet especially high saturated fat because it creates higher HDL. Is it because these women already have compromised cardiovascular systems and are obese? What are we to believe? Believe that your body is doing its best to give you a long and healthy life. And for that long and healthy life, eat and enjoy plenty of fats and oils along with your veggies, fruits, and meats of all kinds; and eschew carbohydrates. Add to that some exercise, and you'll be on your way to the best outcome your personal version of a body can deliver. All the rest is "BS" at best. So, enjoy an egg fried in butter, and lard in your pie crusts instead of trans-fat laden "shortening" (the only "shortening" it does is to your life-span). I could go on...but I'm getting hungry...(:-o)! L8r all, DustyB -- 1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book 2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book 3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins book 4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other) |
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