Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:14:49 -0500, Alan Mackenzie wrote
(in message ):

snip

Alan, I tried to write you an apology for any misunderstandings but I
got so confused trying to figure this out:

Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
Email: ; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
(like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

I don't have the Gift of Truth Discernment, you know. This is harder
than the Enigma Machine.

A Humble Act a Day Keeps the Evil Doctor Away,
(and you know who that is ;-))
--
Steve, Humilitas Doctorus, Fellow of the American Academy of Humility

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

George wrote:

Hey Andy you forgot to include Steve in your prayers.

Hey George, I don't pray for Satan (aka Steve-nospam).

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at George
(2) Report George to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which
is described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been
voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service.
His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his
religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to
better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are
vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr.
Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have
lost the argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this
discussion thread(s).

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound
diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you
can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll"
is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no
redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame"
wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting
the discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD
to achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their
weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/levc
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line
(including jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were
attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the
hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in
support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are,
using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and
libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily
debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning
the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by
cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD
or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD
above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com

Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Most people have two feet. Why not simply line up a day's fodder in two
lines between those feet. Make sure the lines do not extend outside the

Since motivation (stopping when you're not hungry)
is part of the problem. why not reduce hunger and
improve motivation by putting the food UNDER the
feet instead of between them?

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:01:30 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ):

George wrote:

Hey Andy you forgot to include Steve in your prayers.

Hey George, I don't pray for Satan (aka Steve-nospam).


Sounds like he touched a nerve :-) Getting a little touchy here,
aren't we?

The Untruthful and Unhumble often post with macros.

Please trim your headers to sci.med.cristianity...or not. Might as
well demonstrate your childishness, inflexibility, fanaticism, and lack
of imagination to a wider audience. I am sure that by antagonizing
them you will win them over to your point of view.

Ever So Humbly,
--
Steve, Humilitas Doctorus, Fellow of the American Academy of Humility

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

In article , That T Woman
wrote:

"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message
...
Sorry about my trigger finger and lack of scissors. I cross posted the
last two. Hope the other groups had a laugh. Now I can't do my netcop
number to x-posters for a while.

--
Diva
*****
The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman

According to the calories burned site and using my own data, 5'4", 46 yrs
old, 195 lbs, 1 minute of typing burns 2 calories. I don't imagine that
being netcop accomplishes anything more than burning those 2 calories. :-)

But it draws a response from old ASD cohorts.

Tonia






--
Diva
*****
The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman

In article et, Steve
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:22:46 -0500, Carol Frilegh wrote
(in message ):

snip

If you put Two Feet in your mouth does it run contra to the Two Pound
Diet.

Madam, it is not *I* who must answer for the Two Pound Diet. Surely
you can find a heartmdphd somewhere with Two Feet in his humble mouth
to Discern the Truth for you. For it is written:

2Behold!

and yet again,

And it is replied,

"2Late" all the Mu-Chungs are currently banished.

14Behold yet again!

Do not be deceived by these tricksters!

And what about nursing infants? What do you call that diet?

I wouldn't touch that with a Two Foot Pole :-)

Humbly, Truthfully, et ceterally,

--
Diva
*****
The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman

In article et, Steve
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:14:49 -0500, Alan Mackenzie wrote
(in message ):

snip

Alan, I tried to write you an apology for any misunderstandings but I
got so confused trying to figure this out:

Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
Email: ; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
(like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

I don't have the Gift of Truth Discernment, you know. This is harder
than the Enigma Machine.

A Humble Act a Day Keeps the Evil Doctor Away,
(and you know who that is ;-))

First there was Connie
and she got the heave
Next it was Andrew
who's been asked to leave
So it looks like nobody's "Ho" or "Gung"
upon observing "The Year of the Chung"

May the Fields of the Lord be Pesticde Free!

--
Diva
*****
The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman

Steve wrote on Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:11:00 -0500:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:14:49 -0500, Alan Mackenzie wrote (in message
):

snip

Alan, I tried to write you an apology for any misunderstandings but I
got so confused trying to figure this out:

Steve, I've no idea what you'd want to apologize for. I think your 2'
diet is a _great_ idea. It's far better than the £2 diet, because you
don't have the hassle of weighing things. And, given the correlation
between length and weight, 2' has got to be scientifically equivalent to
£2 when it comes to diets.

I'll not try to out-humble you though. :-)

Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
Email: ; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
(like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

I don't have the Gift of Truth Discernment, you know. This is harder
than the Enigma Machine.

aye-see-emm at emm-you-see dot dee-eee.

A Humble Act a Day Keeps the Evil Doctor Away,
(and you know who that is ;-))
--
Steve, Humilitas Doctorus, Fellow of the American Academy of Humility

--
Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
Email: ; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
(like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

Satan wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:14:49 -0500, Alan Mackenzie wrote
(in message ):

snip

Alan, I tried to write you an apology for any misunderstandings but I
got so confused trying to figure this out:

Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
Email: ; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
(like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

befuddled hissing snipped

You poor guy.

Christ has reduced you to this.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A20055A37

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request
that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about
reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Steve
(2) Report Steve to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is
described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary
and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation
has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as
a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks
He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently
opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on
every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the
argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this
discussion thread(s).

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound
diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can
not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is
someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming
discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the
discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to
achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their
weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/levc
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line
(including jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were
attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the
hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in
support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are,
using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous
claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the
anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by
cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD
or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD
above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Sincerely,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com

Steve wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:22:46 -0500, Carol Frilegh wrote
(in message ):

snip

If you put Two Feet in your mouth does it run contra to the Two Pound
Diet.

desperate hissing snipped

You poor guy.

Christ has reduced you to this.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A20055A37

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request
that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about
reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Steve
(2) Report Steve to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is
described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary
and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation
has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a
Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He
touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently
opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every
perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument
soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this
discussion thread(s).

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s),
certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach
toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit
the message then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is
someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming
discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the
discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to
achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their
weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/levc
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including
jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were
attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the
hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in
support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are,
using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous
claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the
anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by
cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or
its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed.

It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD
above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Sincerely,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com