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Boemsi wrote:

I've been here before, about this time last year, but under a different
name. I found this group very helpful, so after a very tough personal
time, I'm back and right on track continuing my weight loss. Last year I
was pretty succesful, lost 10lb altogether, but gained it right back
during all the stress.

So here's my question: what is it with my abs that they refuse to
cooperate? I'm not aiming for six-packs, that will never happen, but in
spite of low-fat diet, regular exercise for well over 2 months now, the
fat in my abs area is not budging. I've lost maybe one inch, no more. I do
pilates 3 times a week, cardio and weights 2 times a week, and eat no more
than 2000 cals (no lo-carb, that's not an option for me, just medium
carbing...). I know this is the most difficult area to loose fat, but is
it really *that* hard?

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--Boemsi
207 - 197 - 180


Welcome to the horrible world of body composition. Regardless of
weight, abs are only visible when body fat percentage is in the low
teens to single digits. When my diet kicked in and I dropped to 140
pounds without exercise eight years ago I still didn’t have abs. That
was my wake-up call that there was a lot more to body composition than
weight. What a shock to learn I had a light, high fat body. The last
eight years I’ve been eating a diet higher in protein and exercising.
My body fat has dropped from 20% to below 12% and I’ve gained 15 "good"
pounds. I’ve been replacing fat with heavier muscle. As you can see
from the pictures, even shrinking to my current 29” waist isn’t enough
for strong ab definition. Hopefully, along with my goal of 160 pounds
will come a body fat percentage under 10%. Maybe then I’ll have defined
abs.

You should probably increase your weight training. Weight training
burns more fat and yields a better body shape than cardio. Don't expect
results soon. It's a long road ahead ...

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/che...eets/my_photos


185/140/155/160

Janice, I'm lurking some here but just so little time as my mom (86) has
been in hospital and once she was home my aunt broke a hip. She never
married and I'm about the only one she has soooo I'm running to see her
often. It is a good life to be able to work plus everything else but a
bit hectic. My WOE/WOL is pretty good and THAN bad again Dr Phil's
book is a great help and I have a few LBS to lose (only about 12) so
it makes me mad to not keep going EVERYDAY! I have just one size down to
go and I'll be where I feel the best. Thanks for asking. My WOE is to
eat what i want but to stop when full. (before I'm quite full) I do try
and eat low lw carb veggies but not completely. I believe that eating
for life is my best way so I strive for good health. I try recipes that
look healthy and I try to cut out the desserts except for fruits.

How are you doing? I have always felt that you & I are a bit alike with
our WOE

glo

Janice, I'm lurking some here but just so little time as my mom (86) has
been in hospital and once she was home my aunt broke a hip. She never
married and I'm about the only one she has soooo I'm running to see her
often. It is a good life to be able to work plus everything else but a
bit hectic. My WOE/WOL is pretty good and THAN bad again Dr Phil's
book is a great help and I have a few LBS to lose (only about 12) so
it makes me mad to not keep going EVERYDAY! I have just one size down to
go and I'll be where I feel the best. Thanks for asking. My WOE is to
eat what i want but to stop when full. (before I'm quite full) I do try
and eat low lw carb veggies but not completely. I believe that eating
for life is my best way so I strive for good health. I try recipes that
look healthy and I try to cut out the desserts except for fruits.

How are you doing? I have always felt that you & I are a bit alike with
our WOE

glo

Ignoramus5937 wrote:

Between 10-12%

I’m increasing leg exercises to hopefully break that plateau.

I can’t wait to give my wife your compliment of looking like a kid.



Excellent progress. Also, good looiking kids. Your bodyfat is now
what, 10-13%?

i

In article , Rob wrote:

Boemsi wrote:


I've been here before, about this time last year, but under a different
name. I found this group very helpful, so after a very tough personal
time, I'm back and right on track continuing my weight loss. Last year I
was pretty succesful, lost 10lb altogether, but gained it right back
during all the stress.

So here's my question: what is it with my abs that they refuse to
cooperate? I'm not aiming for six-packs, that will never happen, but in
spite of low-fat diet, regular exercise for well over 2 months now, the
fat in my abs area is not budging. I've lost maybe one inch, no
more. I do
pilates 3 times a week, cardio and weights 2 times a week, and eat
no more
than 2000 cals (no lo-carb, that's not an option for me, just medium
carbing...). I know this is the most difficult area to loose fat, but is
it really *that* hard?


Welcome to the horrible world of body composition. Regardless of
weight, abs are only visible when body fat percentage is in the low
teens to single digits. When my diet kicked in and I dropped to 140
pounds without exercise eight years ago I still didn’t have abs. That
was my wake-up call that there was a lot more to body composition than
weight. What a shock to learn I had a light, high fat body. The last
eight years I’ve been eating a diet higher in protein and exercising.
My body fat has dropped from 20% to below 12% and I’ve gained 15 "good"
pounds. I’ve been replacing fat with heavier muscle. As you can see
from the pictures, even shrinking to my current 29” waist isn’t enough
for strong ab definition. Hopefully, along with my goal of 160 pounds
will come a body fat percentage under 10%. Maybe then I’ll have defined
abs.

You should probably increase your weight training. Weight training
burns more fat and yields a better body shape than cardio. Don't expect
results soon. It's a long road ahead ...

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/che...eets/my_photos


185/140/155/160

Ignoramus5937 wrote:

Maybe you can use whey protein of some sort, it tastes like
condensed milk when you dissolve it. Myself, I like meat, but there
are healthy sources of protein other than meat, like eggs, whey
protein, etc.

Does it really taste like condensed milk? or do you mean evaporated milk?

--
Walking (but mostly biking!) on . . .
Laurie in Maine
207/110 60 inches of attitude!
Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03

Ignoramus5937 wrote:

Maybe you can use whey protein of some sort, it tastes like
condensed milk when you dissolve it. Myself, I like meat, but there
are healthy sources of protein other than meat, like eggs, whey
protein, etc.

Does it really taste like condensed milk? or do you mean evaporated milk?

--
Walking (but mostly biking!) on . . .
Laurie in Maine
207/110 60 inches of attitude!
Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03

SnugBear wrote:
Ignoramus5937 wrote:


Maybe you can use whey protein of some sort, it tastes like
condensed milk when you dissolve it. Myself, I like meat, but there
are healthy sources of protein other than meat, like eggs, whey
protein, etc.


Does it really taste like condensed milk? or do you mean evaporated milk?


They’re an acquired taste. I drink the GNC Chocolate varieties. They
taste like a powdered chocolate milk drink that wasn’t stirred enough.
Chocolate flavored with plenty of lumps.

Soy milk is another source. Swap it for 2% milk in recipes and you'll
get the following:

Soy vs. 2%
100 calories vs. 130
4g Total fat vs. 5g
0.5g saturated vs. 3g
0mg cholestorol vs. 20mg
8g Total carbs vs. 13g
1g Fiber vs. 0
6g Sugar vs. 12g.
7g Protein vs. 8g

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SnugBear wrote:
Ignoramus5937 wrote:


Maybe you can use whey protein of some sort, it tastes like
condensed milk when you dissolve it. Myself, I like meat, but there
are healthy sources of protein other than meat, like eggs, whey
protein, etc.


Does it really taste like condensed milk? or do you mean evaporated
milk?


They’re an acquired taste. I drink the GNC Chocolate varieties. They
taste like a powdered chocolate milk drink that wasn’t stirred enough.
Chocolate flavored with plenty of lumps.

Try a blender. I hate lumps so I use a blender. When I'm at work I have a
little mini hand one that I got at a kitchen store for about $10. It runs
on 1 AA battery and fits in my purse.

Soy milk is another source. Swap it for 2% milk in recipes and you'll get
the following:

Soy vs. 2%
100 calories vs. 130
4g Total fat vs. 5g
0.5g saturated vs. 3g
0mg cholestorol vs. 20mg
8g Total carbs vs. 13g
1g Fiber vs. 0
6g Sugar vs. 12g.
7g Protein vs. 8g

For some people soy milk is an "acquired" taste.

Jenn

JMA wrote:

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Soy milk is another source. Swap it for 2% milk in recipes and you'll get
the following:

Soy vs. 2%
100 calories vs. 130
4g Total fat vs. 5g
0.5g saturated vs. 3g
0mg cholestorol vs. 20mg
8g Total carbs vs. 13g
1g Fiber vs. 0
6g Sugar vs. 12g.
7g Protein vs. 8g


For some people soy milk is an "acquired" taste.

Jenn



That's why I said, "recipes" instead of just chugging a glass.
Substitute it for milk in packaged or boxed side dishes and recipes.
Once you’ve acquired the taste you might be able to add it to cereal.
As for drinking it in a glass as a beverage, substitute water instead.
That saves caloric room for a martini or margarita.

JMA wrote:

snip


Soy milk is another source. Swap it for 2% milk in recipes and you'll get
the following:

Soy vs. 2%
100 calories vs. 130
4g Total fat vs. 5g
0.5g saturated vs. 3g
0mg cholestorol vs. 20mg
8g Total carbs vs. 13g
1g Fiber vs. 0
6g Sugar vs. 12g.
7g Protein vs. 8g


For some people soy milk is an "acquired" taste.

Jenn



That's why I said, "recipes" instead of just chugging a glass.
Substitute it for milk in packaged or boxed side dishes and recipes.
Once you’ve acquired the taste you might be able to add it to cereal.
As for drinking it in a glass as a beverage, substitute water instead.
That saves caloric room for a martini or margarita.